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Storing rice beans and oats in mylar bags for shtf
Survivalist Boards ^ | 8/14/ | Kev

Posted on 08/18/2011 12:19:26 PM PDT by Kartographer

My SHTF food preps include mylar bags, #10 cans, MREs and canned goods. In this article and video ware going to discuss making up 20 mylar bags of rice, beans, oatmeal,,,,, and various other items.

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TOPICS: Food
KEYWORDS: beprepared; bhoeconomy; emergencyprep; food; foodstorage; getreadyhereitcomes; preparenow; prepperping; prepping; putyourhouseinorder; selfreliance; shtf; survivalping; tshtf; video
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Though much of this is covered in my Preparedness Manual this article has a very good demo video that goes with it that takes you through the process step by step.
1 posted on 08/18/2011 12:19:33 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

PING!!!


2 posted on 08/18/2011 12:20:40 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: sauropod

home


3 posted on 08/18/2011 12:23:30 PM PDT by sauropod (ObaMao: Let them eat peas!)
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To: Kartographer

Thanks for posting this.


4 posted on 08/18/2011 12:24:09 PM PDT by Mich Patriot (A government agency is the closest thing to eternal life you'll ever see on Earth. RReagan)
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To: Kartographer
I use a FoodSaver vac sealer to make 5lb bags of rice and 1Lb. bags of beans/lentils/etc...
Then I seal them in 5 gal. buckets that have rubber O-rings.
5 posted on 08/18/2011 12:26:57 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Deploy. Dominate. Disappear.)
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To: Kartographer

Just for the record, if people are put off by the added steps or money for mylar bags, I just store all kinds of beans and grains in 5 gallon buckets and add about 8 or so bay leaves to each bucket - a few on the bottom, a couple in the middle as I pour the stuff in, and a few on the top. I mark each bucket using masking tape what’s in it and the date.

I rotate everything so I am always using up foods that are sometimes 3 years old, no bugs, rodents, mold ever. Only time was brown rice what was very old and had bugs galore. Cats ate it just fine, they like bugs anyway.

For those new to prepping, learn to like and eat what you store, and rotate. Don’t store foods you really hate, but you can learn to like things you aren’t used to. Especially cheap easy to prepare simple foods, everyone should try to get used to eating more of those.


6 posted on 08/18/2011 12:30:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Kartographer

mylar is really expensive, is it really mylar?

What is the advantage for mylar over regular plastic?


7 posted on 08/18/2011 12:30:48 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

The reason you use Mylar when packing long term storage is it is virtually impenetrable by oxygen. Plastic even that used in vacuum bags allows oxygen in over time.


8 posted on 08/18/2011 12:31:50 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Mich Patriot

I post this type information and share my Preparedness Manual, because I want as many Patriots to survive whats coming as possible, because we sure are going to need them.


9 posted on 08/18/2011 12:33:42 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
How many bags can you get in one bucket?

Good idea, just curious.

I've got more ammo "in storage" than I do food.

Time to correct that error.......

Thanks.

10 posted on 08/18/2011 12:35:22 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (Have ya hit 'em in the a$$, Never let off the gas 'til ya rolled into Victory Lane?)
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To: Kartographer

please add me to your ping list.


11 posted on 08/18/2011 12:39:08 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Kartographer
You can shop around and get the bags at a good price, but the shipping takes a bite. If you can the Mormon cannery at a very fair price. Try to get yourself an invite. The rules very and most of time you need a Mormon ‘sponsor’ to go with you and you get one visit, but I encourage you to go. My was a very good experience with no pressure and lots of fun and camaraderie.
12 posted on 08/18/2011 12:39:54 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

overkill.

I’ve got unground uncracked whole grain wheat berries in 5 gallon buckets that is 35 years old. its still good. The buckets are brittle and crumbly, but the wheat is fine. If I transfer it to new buckets, it will be good for another 35 years.


13 posted on 08/18/2011 12:40:40 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Kartographer

Just starting to prep myself. I bought some jugs of weight gainer that I used when I first started lifting as a kid. Self contained, 1000 calories a scoop, protein, carbs, vitamins, etc...Just add water and you have a halfway decent shake. That being said, I wouldn’t use it unless I was a skinny kid or an adult trying to prep for TEOTWAWKI.


14 posted on 08/18/2011 12:42:15 PM PDT by MattinNJ
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To: Kartographer

Is it true that if you put rice, wheat, beans, etc. in the freezer for several days that your bug problem will be gone?


15 posted on 08/18/2011 12:42:28 PM PDT by goosie
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

What’s the downside of just keeping a twenty lb. bag of rice in it’s original plastic and then opening it / separating it into smaller containers if/when the SHTF?

TIA.


16 posted on 08/18/2011 12:43:22 PM PDT by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Kartographer

I’ll pass along a tip from Jackie Clay.

Dried beans tend to get tough after long storage.

You have to cook them to death to even get them to al dente stage.

Instead..soak them overnight.. leave about 2 inches for extra water and pressure can them.


17 posted on 08/18/2011 12:44:37 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: goosie

I do it. Also pasta and macaroni as well. This is food you might have to depend on as your only source. I don’t see where a little over kill hurts.


18 posted on 08/18/2011 12:46:08 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

What’s scary is when you try to figure out how much fuel and water you’ll need every week to convert those dried foodstuffs into meals.

We, with parsimony, could go for thirty days or more on the food we have on hand ...

1. If we are not successfully overrun by the zombies/barbarians
2. If we don’t share with unprepared neighbors
3. If we can maintain a supply of fuel and potable water.

That’s in a stay in place mode.

*IF* we could get to our retreat, there’s only about 10 days’ stuff there, but virtually unlimited water and fuel.


19 posted on 08/18/2011 12:48:24 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: LasVegasMac
Once I seal them with an O2 absorber, I tamp the corners round so they'll fit. I get 2 bags per 10lb. bag of rice and I get 5 of those in each "Homer" bucket. Home Depot sells them cheap enough. I grab those because they have that rubber O-ring. Seal them with a rubber mallet and I hope they are good to go for a long time.
20 posted on 08/18/2011 12:49:47 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Deploy. Dominate. Disappear.)
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To: Yehuda

What’s up buddy?

You’re preppin’ ,too ?


21 posted on 08/18/2011 12:51:23 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (My mind is like a steel trap: rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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To: Kartographer

This is a much discussed subject, but the one thing I’d like to add is that it is best to keep what you have as mobile as possible. We have a lot in totes, so that I could load everything we have in the pickup if need be in just a few minutes. Also not bad if you want to bury them to keep them from falling into the clutches of hungry zombomas.


22 posted on 08/18/2011 12:52:24 PM PDT by domeika
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To: Yehuda
What’s the downside of just keeping a twenty lb. bag of rice in it’s original plastic

The bags they come in have minute perforations. Not sealed at all. Not large enough for rice to get out but large enough for air to get in. And bugs. And mice will sniff it out.

23 posted on 08/18/2011 12:53:08 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Deploy. Dominate. Disappear.)
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To: Blueflag

As far as long term cooking I recommend one of these;

A Rocket Stove:

http://www.stovetec.net/us/index.php


24 posted on 08/18/2011 12:54:16 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

There is also a plan for a DIY Rocket Stove in my Preparesness Manual:

http://www.tomeaker.com/kart/preparedness1i.pdf


25 posted on 08/18/2011 12:56:46 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: goosie

In a word, yes. We buy large quanities of rice, beans, flour ect. We store them in the freezer for a week prior to storing them in food grade 5 gal buckets with rubber seals, they’ll stay good for years.


26 posted on 08/18/2011 12:56:53 PM PDT by GT Vander (Life's priorities; God, Family, Country. Everything else is just details...)
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To: dila813

Mylar also does an excellent job keeping Helium out. You don’t want your prepped foods floating away.


27 posted on 08/18/2011 12:58:29 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: Kartographer
My Walmart is now carrying 25# bags of wheat berries: Wheat Montana hard red spring and hard white spring. At my store they are under $13/bag. I bought both they had on the shelf and I haven't seen it restocked yet. Something to check out though, because it's cheaper than buying it and paying for shipping. If your store doesn't have it, perhaps you can request that they order it for you.
28 posted on 08/18/2011 1:00:03 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: GT Vander

I just openned some rice that had a 1985 date on the bucket.

Still good but it was stored in a root celler bucket still in fine shape.


29 posted on 08/18/2011 1:00:58 PM PDT by riverrunner
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To: GT Vander
To the un-initiated, a 5 gallon bucket with an o-seal is not something they are likely to come across easily. They would want to look for Gamma-Seal lids, available from Nitro-Pak.
30 posted on 08/18/2011 1:04:26 PM PDT by domeika
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To: dila813
I ordered this a couple of weeks ago, under $30 with regular shipping and it arrived in three days: http://www.amazon.com/10-Gallon-Absorbers-Dehydrated-Storage/dp/B001Y0Y8C6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1313697666&sr=8-2

My Walmart bakery gives away the decorator's icing buckets for free. I scrub them with very hot water and Dawn, in fact I add a couple of cups of boiling water to the bucket along with hot tap water. If your Walmart doesn't give away free buckets, check other area grocery stores or bakeries. Combined with free buckets, the Mylar purchase is worth it.

31 posted on 08/18/2011 1:04:39 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: domeika

I have a customer on my route that operates a small store with a deli counter. His pickels come in food grade buckets with rubber seals, he gives them to me because I haul them off and he doesn’t have to deal with them. I soak them in bleach water to lessen the smell of pickels, but we still pack everything in bags and add baking soda in the bucket before we seal it.


32 posted on 08/18/2011 1:09:28 PM PDT by GT Vander (Life's priorities; God, Family, Country. Everything else is just details...)
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To: Kartographer

That is what I’m asking for for Christmas! Next summer I’m even going to test canning (hot water not pressure) on it to see how efficient it is without heating up my kitchen. I’m curious to see how much wood it will take for basic pickled hot peppers and hot pepper butter, my husbands vices. I know it uses charcoal as well, but wood is free and I’d like to keep the charcoal for emergencies. BTW, does charcoal have a shelf life?


33 posted on 08/18/2011 1:09:56 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: dila813
Plastic bags are porous and will let oxygen in. Oxygen = bad food. Mylar bags are virtually non porous and o2 and other gases will not get in. Food items in mylar can be stored for YEARS in most cases.

When using Mylar, you must use food grade.

You think mylar is expensive now, wait till you see the price of food in the future.

34 posted on 08/18/2011 1:10:51 PM PDT by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: GT Vander

Good for you. You are saving a TON of money by not having to buy buckets an lids.


35 posted on 08/18/2011 1:12:32 PM PDT by domeika
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To: GT Vander

Good for you. You are saving a TON of money by not having to buy buckets an lids.


36 posted on 08/18/2011 1:12:36 PM PDT by domeika
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To: goodwithagun

Not that I am aware of. Just keep it dry. Yeah these Rocket Stoves are GREAT! Think how many meals you can cook with just one old shipping pallet.


37 posted on 08/18/2011 1:13:32 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: goodwithagun

You have to be very careful with water bath canning. Only some items can be canned that way.


38 posted on 08/18/2011 1:13:43 PM PDT by mountn man (Happiness is not a destination, its a way of life.)
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To: little jeremiah

Yep! 5 gallon buckets and bay leaves! The buckets seal tight. As long as the contents are dry, should last many years.


39 posted on 08/18/2011 1:15:11 PM PDT by CharlyFord (t)
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To: domeika

Almost all Walmarts have the buckets and lids now back in their paint departments. Lowes and Home Depot have them as well. But nothing beats getting them for FREE!


40 posted on 08/18/2011 1:15:34 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Thanks.


41 posted on 08/18/2011 1:16:26 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: CharlyFord

I haven’t heard of the bay leaves trick. Care to elaborate?


42 posted on 08/18/2011 1:17:02 PM PDT by domeika
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To: goodwithagun

That is a great price compared to the online stores and they charge shipping.


43 posted on 08/18/2011 1:19:07 PM PDT by goosie
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To: goosie

Also check out Honeyville Grains

http://honeyvillegrain.com/

$4.49 ships your order no matter how big. Next time the have their 10% off coupon I will post.


44 posted on 08/18/2011 1:23:13 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

We also use a Food Saver to vacumn pack dried goods we buy at the grocery store. We take a bag of rice or beans and just put the whole bag in a food saver bag and then vacumn pack it.

We also make up 5 gallon buckets of wheat, oats, rice, 9 grain cereal, ezekiel mix, and different beans. We get the buckets at the grocery store bakery for $1 each and then line them with Mylar bags and put an oxygen absorber in each bag, seal it up and put on the lid. We also keep a few cases of MRE’s and #10 cans of freeze dried veggies and TVP meat.


45 posted on 08/18/2011 1:23:29 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: mountn man
I've been canning since I was old enough to snap beans, lol. I know what I can and can't can in certain canners. Now, say that ten times fast!
46 posted on 08/18/2011 1:28:56 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Kartographer

OK. I get that mylar bags are the way to go.

Anyone have a source for them and the equipment to vacuum and seal them?

To me this is kind of like learning to can. That I have down cold, but an totally unfamiliar with this mylar bag stuff.


47 posted on 08/18/2011 1:36:59 PM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: Kartographer

Can you add me to your ping list?
Thank you.


48 posted on 08/18/2011 1:37:30 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: CharlyFord; domeika

I’ve read several places that bugs don’t like bay leaves. So I buy them by the pound every few years and add them to buckets. I don’t know if that’s why I don’t have bugs, but I don’t have any. Also I never buy small boxes of grains like oatmeal, crackers, etc. They’re much more likely to harbor or attract bugs than 25# bags of stuff, that I re-pack into buckets as soon as I can.

Beans can last for years but they do get harder to cook after a few years.


49 posted on 08/18/2011 1:46:42 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

I read somewhere they took old hard beans and ran them through a grinder then soaked them and cooked them and it worked!


50 posted on 08/18/2011 1:51:39 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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