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Great Myths About the Great Depression Still Abound
Capitol Confidential ^ | 8/21/2011 | Tom Gantert

Posted on 08/22/2011 12:24:02 PM PDT by MichCapCon

“FDR fixed the economy with make-work jobs,” a recent Mlive.com headline stated.

Jennie Phipps, an Mlive.com contributor, wrote in her Aug. 15 story: “When I was growing up, my mother thought Franklin Delano Roosevelt sat at the right hand of God, mostly because he found a way out of the Great Depression by putting people to work through such government programs as the Civilian Conservation Corp. and the Works Projects Administration.” (Editor's Note: The actual names of the programs were the Civilian Conservation Corps and the Works Progress Administration.)

But some economic historians believe Phipps has bought into one of the biggest myths of American politics – that FDR’s New Deal actually worked.

Franklin D. Roosevelt started his 12-year run as president in 1933, four years after the stock market crash of 1929. Historians agree the New Deal and the Second New Deal were a series of government-backed economic programs that were launched from 1933 through 1936.

From 1932 through 1939, the country’s unemployment rate ranged from 23.6 percent (1932) to 20.7 percent (mid-1939).

“The New Deal was a gigantic failure in revitalizing the U.S. economy,” said Burt Folsom, a professor of history at Hillsdale College and senior fellow in economic education with the Mackinac Center.

Lawrence Reed, president emeritus of the Mackinac Center for Public Policy, chronicled the harmful impacts of FDR’s New Deal in “Great Myths of the Great Depression.”

The Great Depression was four consecutive downturns rolled into one, according to Reed, who says that the country had had several other depressions, but none lasted more than four years and most were over in two years.

“The calamity that began in 1929 lasted at least three times longer than any of the country’s previous depressions because the government compounded its initial errors with a series of additional and harmful interventions,” Reed wrote.

Reed examined the damage on the American economy via government policies by looking at the Smoot-Hawley Tariff, passed in June 1930 under the Herbert Hoover administration. The stock market dropped 20 points on the day Hoover signed Smoot-Hawley into law and continued dropping the next two years, Reed wrote.

“The most protectionist legislation in U.S. history, Smoot-Hawley virtually closed the borders to foreign goods and ignited a vicious international trade war,” Reed wrote.

There were 887 tariffs that were sharply increased and significantly raised the rates on agricultural products and other consumables. Officials in the administration and Congress thought raising trade barriers would make Americans buy more American products and help employ more people, Reed wrote.

But foreign governments soon put up their own trade barriers and pulled back on buying U.S. goods. American agriculture suffered as farm prices plummeted and tens of thousands of farmers went bankrupt, Reed wrote.

A bushel of wheat that sold for $1 in 1929 was selling for 30 cents just three years later.

Reed wrote that with the collapse of agriculture, rural banks closed. Some 9,000 banks closed between 1930 and 1933.

And Phipps appears to have forgotten about President Barack Obama’s attempt to create jobs through government money.

The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act was signed into law in February 2009 when the nation’s unemployment rate was 8.2 percent. Over the next 29 months, the nation’s unemployment rate has ranged between 8.6 percent and 10.1 percent. In July of 2011, it was 9.1 percent.

Tad DeHaven, a federal budget analyst for the Cato Institute, said the Congressional Budget Office has the ARRA costing $821 billion.

“Spending accounts for about 65 percent and tax cuts 35 percent," DeHaven said. "Among the tax provisions of the bill were a $400 per person 'Making Work Pay' tax credit, a patch of the Alternative Minimum Tax, numerous temporary breaks for businesses, an expansion of several tax credits, and a number of provisions to reduce taxation on public bonds. These weren’t 'pro-growth' tax cuts that effect long-term decision making. These were short-term Keynesian styled tax cuts."

"As for make work programs, there’s no free lunch," DeHaven continued. "Every dollar the federal government spends paying somebody to do something is one less dollar for the private sector. The fundamental question therefore is: Which do we want allocating economic resources, politicians and bureaucrats or the marketplace? Those who would answer affirmative to the former ought to read up on the defunct Soviet Union.”


TOPICS: Government; History
KEYWORDS: fdr; greatdepression; liberalism
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1 posted on 08/22/2011 12:24:08 PM PDT by MichCapCon
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To: MichCapCon

FDR was the originator of “Never let a good crisis go to waste”

TT


2 posted on 08/22/2011 12:26:23 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is real islam. Moderate islam is the trojan horse.)
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To: MichCapCon

The best deconstruction of the New Deal is Amity Shlaes’ book ( I can’t recall the title)...a really good read


3 posted on 08/22/2011 12:28:51 PM PDT by ken5050 (Should Christie RUN in 2012? NO!!! But he should WALK 3 miles every day.)
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To: MichCapCon

bump for later


4 posted on 08/22/2011 12:30:01 PM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: MichCapCon

I have this bookmarked:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2285846/posts


5 posted on 08/22/2011 12:30:18 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: MichCapCon

FDR’s socialist policies made a depression into a Great Depression. Just google “FDR made the Great Depression worse” and you will get a LOT of hits explaining it.


6 posted on 08/22/2011 12:46:55 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: ken5050

Amity Shlaes’ the forgotten man is a great and balanced (non polemic) take down of the New Deal. She is not an FDR or New Deal “hater”, more a regretter. It would be wonderful if the government had a magic lever they could adjust to fix the economy. No such lever exists.

http://www.amazon.com/Forgotten-Man-History-Great-Depression/dp/0060936428/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_1


7 posted on 08/22/2011 12:59:23 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: MichCapCon

My mom was a very young girl during the depression and FDR’s presidency but the one thing that is burned into her memory is FDR stating that there would be a chicken for every ‘cookpot’ in America. For her to remember that shows (imo) how FDR set himself up as a ‘savior’ by his rhetoric. To this day she can hardly believe that he made things worse with his policies.


8 posted on 08/22/2011 1:01:06 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Palin/Perry 2012)
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At his funeral, someone commented that for over 50% of Americans, he was the only president they had any real awareness of...


9 posted on 08/22/2011 1:03:59 PM PDT by ken5050 (Should Christie RUN in 2012? NO!!! But he should WALK 3 miles every day.)
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To: MichCapCon

FDR also threw American citizens in concentration camps. He was scum.


10 posted on 08/22/2011 1:05:56 PM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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"My mom was a very young girl during the depression and FDR’s presidency but the one thing that is burned into her memory is FDR stating that there would be a chicken for every ‘cookpot’ in America. For her to remember that shows (imo) how FDR set himself up as a ‘savior’ by his rhetoric. To this day she can hardly believe that he made things worse with his policies."

Then here's a learning opportunity for your mom. "a chicken in every pot" wasn't even FDR. It was Herbert Hoover.

11 posted on 08/22/2011 1:06:53 PM PDT by mlo
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To: ken5050

Wasn’t he into a fourth term when he died? This said he served 12 years. In any case, that’s a pretty stunning figure if true.

What kind of a wartime president was he? His record is barely touched on (not like his economic record). I’ve not done enough reading on him to know.


12 posted on 08/22/2011 1:09:50 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Palin/Perry 2012)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Very good book. She’s got to be John Shlaes’ daughter, but I’ve never seen any reference at all to her father. He worked for Nixon in ‘68 & ‘72, under Len Garment & John Mitchell in New York.


13 posted on 08/22/2011 1:13:18 PM PDT by Mach9
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To: MichCapCon

Burt Folsom, go to AMAZON, and buy his books, excellent.


14 posted on 08/22/2011 1:14:08 PM PDT by Little Bill (Sorry)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets; ken5050

Allow me to add my strong recommendation for Amity Shlaes’ book, The Forgotten Man. My parents both became teenagers during the Great Depression so I heard plenty of stories from them and my mom’s parents. Of course, every community experienced it differently in many ways but there were some common themes across the nation that Shlaes reports very well. A very good, fact-based book!


15 posted on 08/22/2011 1:14:08 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: FightThePower!

Yep, another thing his liberal worshippers have basically gotten tossed down the memory hole. What a disgrace.


16 posted on 08/22/2011 1:20:43 PM PDT by safeasthebanks ("The most rewarding part, was when he gave me my money!" - Dr. Nick)
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To: ken5050
It's called "The Forgotten Man" and it is worth everyones time to read it. F'ing Dope Roosevelt about destroyed this country with his harebrained scams and plots. People were going hungry in this country, real starvation and his solution was to burn crops, pour milk into rivers and kill and bury pigs so farm prices would rise. That didn't work.

FDR war far and away the worst president we ever had. Germany had Hitler, Italy had Mussolini, USSR had Stalin and we had FDR.

17 posted on 08/22/2011 1:27:20 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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To: Outlaw Woman

That was Hoover that promised a car in every garage and a chicken in every pot.


18 posted on 08/22/2011 1:58:09 PM PDT by Melas (u)
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To: MichCapCon

Bkmk.


19 posted on 08/22/2011 1:58:22 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Melas
That was Hoover that promised a car in every garage and a chicken in every pot.

Libertarians promise pot in every chicken.

20 posted on 08/22/2011 1:58:50 PM PDT by dfwgator
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