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Survival Preparedness Food Preps, Ingredients versus Prepared Foods
Modern Survival Blog ^ | 8/22/11

Posted on 08/22/2011 6:50:37 PM PDT by Kartographer

You need to start stocking food. You can do a lot if you start early. Unfortunately, “early” might have been yesterday. Now we’re way past early, and you need a reasonable plan to get food supplies that will store well and don’t cost too much.

Buy extra, use FIFO. Go ahead and buy more food than normal when you’re out shopping, and set it aside as preparedness. Use the “first in, first out” rule to eat your older supplies first. Keep rotating your supplies so you never abandon food “way in the back.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Food; Society
KEYWORDS: botulinum; civilwar; cowcreek; flashmobs; mudpuddle; preppers; purification; putresine; survival; urine
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To: appalachian_dweller
I tend to stay away from ‘homemade’ anything in my stock pile.

You make a good point. I'm with ya when it comes to having some ready to eat (or easily made editable) foods on hand. I keep those in totes incase they need to go with me in a bug-out.

On the other hand, I think it's far cheaper, healthier, tastier and offers serious variety to have basic foods in bulk in your food storage (e.g. flour, cornmeal, sugar, spices, flavorings, oil, beans, canned meats, powdered milk, powdered eggs, canned butter, canned & dried vegetables & fruits).

Just my thoughts and what I've done...

81 posted on 08/23/2011 8:34:27 AM PDT by Errant
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To: PA Engineer

Wow, your garden looks like a science project! Great job... Did you purchase the raised beds or is that a design of yours?? Looks great.


82 posted on 08/23/2011 8:42:29 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Minus_The_Bear
Cisterns were an absolute necessity for homesteads in South Louisiana in the past. Below is a video about building storage tanks in third world countries that I find interesting.

Storage tanks - ferrocement tank

83 posted on 08/23/2011 8:48:01 AM PDT by Errant
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To: appalachian_dweller; Kartographer

brick rocket stove

84 posted on 08/23/2011 9:11:15 AM PDT by bgill (just getting tagline ready for 6 months after you vote in Perry - Tried to warn you he's a RINO.)
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To: Kartographer

IMPT BTTT


85 posted on 08/23/2011 9:13:05 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is... tell your storm how BIG your God is!)
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To: Kartographer

please add me to the ping list? thanks!


86 posted on 08/23/2011 9:14:31 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is... tell your storm how BIG your God is!)
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To: bgill

Works for me!


87 posted on 08/23/2011 9:17:49 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Errant
Wow, your garden looks like a science project! Great job... Did you purchase the raised beds or is that a design of yours?? Looks great.

Thanks! LOL, it was kind of a science project. I wanted to get the most production from a limited area. I had an eight tier 2 foot by 100 foot terraced garden prior to putting in the greenhouse (had to tear out the terraces for space). Learned my mistakes, redesigned and put the new project on the schedule. QE1 and QE2 were the triggers that forced me to move the work up on the schedule.

I was going to build my own boxes out of wood, but found the maintenance down the road would be a headache. We have a large front porch with vinyl railing. The railing has held up perfect for eleven years. Did some searching and found raised vinyl boxes at Master Gardening. Expensive, but the best price I could find with shipping included.

The 3/4" PVC piping for the grid and irrigation I mass produced during two evenings. Drilling 2 holes in each section was the most work. Only needed to cement the first couple sections together. The remaining stay together because of the 48 "leaks" in each grid. Works great for drip irrigation and feeding. They can be torn down and stored in rubbermaid containers during the winter. The ends, cross Ts, Ts and elbows I got from US Plastics.

I have vinyl arbors in the garage to put the grapes back up and will be using 1/2 PVC pipe and fittings for the vertical gardens. Haven't gotten to cutting up and slipping it together.

Check out square foot gardening on Google. There are great sources of information, books and pictures.
88 posted on 08/23/2011 9:47:19 AM PDT by PA Engineer (SP/XX12: Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: PA Engineer
Thanks for the information. I hadn't thought of vinyl. It does seem to have many advantages. Will look into the sources.

I have vinyl rail fence and it might be possible to build boxes based on those components.

Regards,

89 posted on 08/23/2011 10:52:17 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

Google “pedal pump” or “treadle pump” and you’ll find hundreds of blueprints for non-electric water pumps.


90 posted on 08/23/2011 4:39:32 PM PDT by Ellendra (God feeds the birds of the air, but he doesn't throw it in their nests.)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

Just in case you no one answered you yet, Simple Pump puts together pumps for deeper wells and one can purchase options such as solar. We did a quote and it’s just too high for us, at least $1700. But affordable for some people. Hub has a plan to make his own solar pump set up. One of these days...

Simple Pump Company
877-492-8711 (toll free)
775-265-4908 (ph)
888.826.1444 (fax)
www.simplepump.com

The best system is to have large holding tanks or you have to run the pump many times a day to fill a household pressure tank. We got a couple at farm supply places (water tanks). If you set the water tanks a bit high, you can easily have gravity feed at least to the first floor.

You don’t want to count on a generator IMO. Loud - eveyrone knows you have it. You constantly need fuel - may not be available or even affordable in a long term outage. You can store food for a couple of years but you need a steady water supply.

If your well is shallow (say under 50 feet?) Lehman’s and other outfits sell hand pumps that are much cheaper than Simple Pump. If you live in an area with a lot of wind, you can use a windmill, and it could fill holding tanks since the wind doesn’t always blow.


91 posted on 08/23/2011 7:03:01 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Errant
I have to admit, I'm low on spices and flavorings. My stocks are very basic, but it's only me and my dog.

The quake yesterday woke a few folks around here up and they are talking about stocking up. I hope they follow through.

My biggest worry is the infighting that will occur in my little enclave. Once it starts, we will be flooded with refugees who are unprepared and panicked.

92 posted on 08/24/2011 4:35:04 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Live each day as if it's your last. It might be.)
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To: Kartographer

I like the rocket stove. Thanks!!!


93 posted on 08/24/2011 4:36:38 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Live each day as if it's your last. It might be.)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert
Just saw your query about getting water from a well in a SHTF emergency.

Well drillers use a "well bucket" which is a long slender pipe-like tube with a valve in the bottom. You tie a piece of rope to it, drop it down the well casing and haul it up. The only depth limit is the length of the rope.

Even if you have a back up generator or a solar power supply a well bucket is the ultimate back up because it requires no electrical power at all.

There are various ways to make your own but they are commercially available at moderate cost. You can usually find them locally at well driller suppliers. Here is a source on the net:

Galvanized Well Bucket from Lehmans


94 posted on 09/11/2011 11:46:08 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Muslims who advocate, support, or carry out Jihad give the other 1% a bad name)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

PS

Here is a video showing how to make your own “well bucket” or “bailer bucket” out of PVC pipe for about $10 or so.

Even if you end up buying one prebuilt, the video is worth watching because it explains some things about how a bucket works and how it is used.


95 posted on 09/11/2011 12:05:14 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Muslims who advocate, support, or carry out Jihad give the other 1% a bad name)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert

oops!

Here is the link

How to Make a Well Bailer Bucket

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzD6k2OoQ5Y


96 posted on 09/11/2011 12:11:17 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Muslims who advocate, support, or carry out Jihad give the other 1% a bad name)
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To: bgill

Ramen noodle prepping pings to you:

1 - Store bought rotisserie chicken $5 or so (not available in TEOTWAWKI) but provided as an idea toward frugality cooking.
Eat it, with sides... like rice and canned green beans = one meal for about 8 bucks for family.
2 - Boil it down with spices (Better Homes and Gardens has great recipe in book) to make about 16 cups of broth.
Pull out all bits of chicken (already paid for) to make chicken pot pie.
3 - use broth to boil with Ramen Noodles (tossing the packets), boil in eggs first for some extra.
4 - use broth to make split pea soup - also cheap, and delicious
5 - compost bones and stuff

One bird => base for 4 meals.

I actually like egg drop ramen soup made this way, or stir fried ramen with whatever is around to toss in. But it is still not on my eat it all the time list.

On your post about conserving fuel during cooking - I also try to think of ways to conserve water - for example, beans are big water users, in general. We have aimed for a mix of ready foods and made from scratch items.


97 posted on 11/01/2011 7:30:24 PM PDT by Apogee
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