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SMART METERS: THE NEW SILENT KILLERS (Part 1 of 2)
Liberty News ^ | September 2, 2011 | Staff

Posted on 09/02/2011 6:41:06 PM PDT by yorkie

“The electromagnetic field is the perfect secret agent: you cannot see it, you cannot smell it, you cannot hear it, and its effects are slow but relentless.” -By Volter Hertenstein, MP Bavarian Parliament

I ask NWVs to post this column on a Friday because it does require many hours of reading to fully understand the issue. By necessity, this new column is two parts as I'm trying, as I did in my first column, to put as much credible information all together in one place to make it easier for everyone fighting this new silent killer. We're all pressed for time. Thank you to everyone who sent in reference material in our efforts to share the truth and what we can do to stop this madness.

There is a major war being waged in this country, although you'd never know it by the silence from the old, disgraced media (ABC, CBS, NBC) and all the cable "news" networks. This new assault on our bodies and privacy is over another relatively new piece of technology that allegedly will save energy; it will also cost tens of thousands of jobs for meter readers. When I say millions of Americans are up in arms over this, I am not exaggerating.

If you are unfamiliar with this issue, please read my first column first on this to get a full understanding of how dangerous those 'smart meters' are and why you don't want one on your home or business.


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; cuespookymusic; invasionofprivacy; smartmeters
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To: yorkie
I am going to call my electric company first thing Tuesday morning (Monday is a holiday) and forbid them from installing this. AAAAaaaargh!

Get hold of yourself. If our or our competitors' smart meters could do what you describe, we or they would make millions more than we do.

Your car has more computing horsepower than a smart meter does. It doesn't have the memory or the analysis capability to figure out when you're having sex (good grief, what paranoia). And since the meter ID does not correlate directly to a name when the meter is read, nobody knows anyway. And the data is 128-bit-AES encrypted with a protocol that takes an engineer to figure out, so nobody else knows, either.

I work in this industry, and design them, so I know what I'm talking about, for heaven's sake. Your fears are unfounded.

41 posted on 09/02/2011 8:39:43 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: Melas; LUV W; Jim Robinson; stephenjohnbanker; All

Hi, Melas - first off, I’m a gurl, not a man. (*grin*)

FWIW, I don’t have any tin foil in my diet - I just want to live a comfortable life without intrusion - from any government entity.

I posted this because the more I ‘look into’ the smart meter - the more I am sure I don’t want one in my home, and just wanted to share some of my findings with my FRiends.


42 posted on 09/02/2011 8:41:29 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: Sherman Logan
Unless somebody can explain why, I don’t understand why smart meters should be considered more dangerous than similar radiation from other sources.

They are not. This story is total BULLSHIT. People who wear their cell phones on their waist every day receive several MILLION times more EMF exposure each day than from a smart meter outside their house.

43 posted on 09/02/2011 8:46:52 PM PDT by montag813
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To: backwoods-engineer

Thanks for your knowledegable and kind response, BackWoods. I will take your advice seriously.

((((HUGS))))


44 posted on 09/02/2011 8:47:27 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: yorkie

I appreciate you doing that, Yorkie. Of course, we already have one. The worse I was expecting was a higher electric bill, and they have been high with all the AC we’ve had to use in this heat. Ugh!

I do hope that this report is premature and they will do more studies on the thing. Better safe than sorry, though, and if I had known, I might have thought twice about having it installed....if indeed we even had a choice.


45 posted on 09/02/2011 8:47:31 PM PDT by LUV W (Obama is E V I L!!! RUN, SARAH---RUN!!!)
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To: LUV W

Well, Luv, from some of the previous posts, it appears that
several posters think my concerns to be unfounded.

But - I have spent all night reading about this and checking it out - and IMHO - my ‘fears’ are not unfounded - and tomorrow, I will probably spend the day doing research on this, and I will FReepmail you with my findings - (since I am feeling like ‘Chicken Little’, here, sharing my findings tonight.)

:(


46 posted on 09/02/2011 8:55:38 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: backwoods-engineer

Is that you Neville Chamberlain?


47 posted on 09/02/2011 8:57:45 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (I Stand With Sarah!)
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To: yorkie

locally I protested and waa told I would have to pay a one time fee and about 300 per year to have my privacy.

Privacy for money only with the Power company


48 posted on 09/02/2011 9:00:33 PM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: Sherman Logan
http://www.lessemf.com/paint.html

This stuff, painted around the RF emiting device may force the utility to change their plans. But it isn't cheap.

49 posted on 09/02/2011 9:03:47 PM PDT by x_plus_one (Obama's legacy: Trashing the North American continent into a third world hell hole.)
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To: backwoods-engineer; Hop A Long Cassidy
Of course, no such instrument exists, and your gaussmeter is useless for such purposes. You should be using a field strength meter.

As it seems, that company - Alphalab - specializes in making test equipment for a hypochondriac.

The easiest way to measure field strength is by using a calibrated antenna and a calibrated spectrum analyzer, often with a calibrated amplifier. That's what compliance labs are using.

Also, 10 milligauss reading doesn't say anything except that the [static] magnetic field is probably 10 milligauss. To compare, a common refrigerator magnet produces 50 gauss - which is 5,000 times as much. I guess all housewives are now doomed? By the way, that 10 milligauss reading probably comes from steel screws that got magnetized in Earth's magnetic field (which is about 400 milligauss at the surface of this planet.)

But the fact is that human body, unless augmented with magnetic materials, is not sensitive to magnetic fields. That's why MRI scans are possible. It is pointless to measure something unless it is clearly understood what it is that you are measuring and what the measured field does to you.

If someone wants to be really scared, they should get a proper microwave power meter, with a small horn, and measure the leakage from their microwave oven in the kitchen. The magnetron (or klystron) there is happily producing kilowatts of power just inches from your face. The door is equipped with a mesh that is supposed to block the RF, but often there are leaks from other places. But hardly any home oven is ever checked for leaks. I had a radar detector a couple of decades ago, and I tested it on a microwave oven, and it did register the signal. Mind you, it was a simple diode in a horn... think of how much power was leaking to get to a reasonable voltage across the waveguide.

50 posted on 09/02/2011 9:08:58 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: yorkie

Don’t worry...you are a concerned citizen and in this day and age, one has to be. So many scary things going on.

I will watch for your mail!


51 posted on 09/02/2011 9:13:47 PM PDT by LUV W (Obama is E V I L!!! RUN, SARAH---RUN!!!)
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To: !1776!
"There is only one antidote to the EMF. Chew on aluminum foil - particularly where you have fillings. That sensation is the bad EMF force being purged from your body. If you don't have fillings not sure what you do."

This is TRUE!

I got an email about this!


of course I am kidding...;)
52 posted on 09/02/2011 9:46:25 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, Ergo Conservitus.)
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To: yorkie
Paranoia tends to cause one to focus attention on low-probability outcomes while ignoring immediate dangers that are right up front.

"Smart Metering" means that your electric bill is going to increase in a very unpredictable manner up to several times your present cost. Leave air conditioning on during one critical hour in the afternoon, and watch your monthly bill get 500% higher. The "discount" that the electric company offers you to sign up for this program will vanish in a day.

To mitigate the unstable billing problem that the smart meter system creates, you will have the option to sign up for the "Peak Demand Management" program. That program will mean installing outlet controllers on your refrigerator, air conditioner, electric dryer, and other major appliances. Those controllers will shut off appliances when the power company sends the appropriate commands to them through the smart meter system. You are not allowed to remove or override the controllers, and the system tracks individual appliance usage by short time intervals.

The smart meter is merely a gateway for the commands and data transfers coming from the central control system

What could possibly go wrong? Hmmmmm....

The major electric utility in this state made a trial deployment of smart meters to selected households, chosen at random. The selected households were not given any choice in this matter. Now the company wants a general rate increase to cover the 30 million dollar cost of the trial, so even the nonparticipants are going to pay.

Most of the smart meter participants would prefer to go back to the more predictable kw-hour rate structure. It is not clear whether that will be allowed.

I do not mean to cast the utility company as the villians here. These programs are being heavily pushed by municipal, state, and federal officials. Instead of more power generation they would prefer centrally managed demand limitation.

The basic smart meter is a cost savings to the utility company and does not harm the customer. Peak rate pricing, enabled by the smart meter will raise unendurable havoc with customer utility budgets. The "Peak Demand Management Controllers" deployed as a follow-on will as expensive to deploy as creating new power generation and will function essentially as "managed blackouts" for each household.

In the end we will need more electric power sources anyway.

It would probably be less expensive to simply build some new power plants and make small rate increases. That direction does not appeal to the government.

53 posted on 09/02/2011 10:12:56 PM PDT by flamberge (Would you like fires with that?)
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To: yorkie
The article contains a lot of anecdotal evidence but very few documented facts.Although I agree the so called smart meters are a problem, I don't think this is a very good argument against them and would not stand up against the pro micro-managers in a debate. But hey, I'm just a plumber.
54 posted on 09/02/2011 10:48:31 PM PDT by WePledge (Ich werde fur immer ein Hollenhund werden. Semper Fidelis)
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To: yorkie

Umm....you are simply uninformed on this. No smart meter in the world can do what you profess. Not even close.


55 posted on 09/02/2011 10:58:13 PM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: yorkie

Umm....you are simply uninformed on this. No smart meter in the world can do what you profess. Not even close.


56 posted on 09/02/2011 10:58:59 PM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: yorkie

Looks like the Amish will get the last laugh after all!


57 posted on 09/03/2011 1:06:57 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Sherman Logan

I am tired of legislation based on the latest theory.


58 posted on 09/03/2011 5:00:35 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (If Obama's the "Answer" ... how stupid was the "QUESTION?")
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To: backwoods-engineer

Look, I design them for a living. No, they won’t hurt you. Yes, you are anonymous. No, people can’t spy on you through the electric/gas/water meter.

Any questions?

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Yes, I have questions.
Do these meters allow the utility to read a user’s power consumption at any time? (seems like that’s the point)

Do these meters allow the utility to turn a user’s power off remotely? (not just the ones you work on, but in general)


59 posted on 09/03/2011 6:08:24 AM PDT by loungitude ( The truth hurts.)
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To: yorkie; LUV W

How are those “curly fry” light bulbs workin out for ya?

LOL!


60 posted on 09/03/2011 6:31:36 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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