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Somebody Pls Explain Why We Care if the Palestinians Declare Themselves a "State".
self | sep 17, 2011 | self

Posted on 09/17/2011 2:07:01 PM PDT by beebuster2000

I dont get why we care? so what if they say they are a state. Maybe then they would act like one.


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To: beebuster2000

A lot of Israel’s oil and gas and potential oil and gas in the Mediterranean would be in Palestine’s territorial waters.


21 posted on 09/17/2011 2:28:22 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: vladimir998

To compare Palestinians to the Polish people is a real insult to Poland and the Polish.


22 posted on 09/17/2011 2:31:34 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: beebuster2000

Seriously, if you don’t know we should care, maybe you need to come out of your mommies basement and try to understand the real world

The second the UN ratifies the PA as a “state” the ME explodes


23 posted on 09/17/2011 2:32:04 PM PDT by Popman (Obama is God's curse upon the land....)
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To: beebuster2000

It would become the number one terrorist haven and training ground in the world, right next door to Israel.


24 posted on 09/17/2011 2:33:03 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: Winged Hussar

but not only do they want to be a “state (i.e. a nation!)”, they want UN membership status! Which would mean any Israel retaliation would drag that useless organization even further into the mix.


25 posted on 09/17/2011 2:35:46 PM PDT by Reily
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To: mjp
A lot of Israel’s oil and gas and potential oil and gas in the Mediterranean would be in Palestine’s territorial waters.

Judea and Sameria has no coastline. Gaza is in the south. The gas and oil are off the mid and northern coasts.
26 posted on 09/17/2011 2:35:58 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: vladimir998
That is a completely insane comparison.

we created a nation that never previously existed.

27 posted on 09/17/2011 2:35:58 PM PDT by DManA
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To: beebuster2000

Because it isn’t their land. Most Palestinians are refugees from the Lebanon and Syria civil wars as well as infiltrators from neighboring countries using Israel as a political football.

Them becoming a state would be akin to illegals here declaring that half of Texas belongs to them.


28 posted on 09/17/2011 2:36:42 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: beebuster2000

There Is No Palestinian State

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/09/16/there-is-no-palestinian-state.html


29 posted on 09/17/2011 2:38:02 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: beebuster2000

Please don’t hesitate to join the thread you started.


30 posted on 09/17/2011 2:38:07 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: goodnesswins

Palestine was named by Augustus Caesar and it actually occupied a lot of what we call Lebanon and Syria.


31 posted on 09/17/2011 2:39:01 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mjp

If the Palestinians would agree to live peacefully, and developed their oil potential, Israel would benefit vastly from this oil, even if not a drop of it came from their territory. So again, it is the Palestinian mania to destroy Israel that is the only think holding these people back.


32 posted on 09/17/2011 2:40:32 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Clairity

You wrote:

“To compare Palestinians to the Polish people is a real insult to Poland and the Polish.”

That’s why I didn’t do it. I mentioned Poland as an example of a nation literally being extent, ceasing and being extent again. Nations are largely artificial creations.


33 posted on 09/17/2011 2:43:13 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Winged Hussar

Yes, I think this is the most important of all the observations on this thread.

If the Palestinians become a state (separated from Israel of course) then they will have to start acting like one. If they keep doing what they have been doing, the Israelis would have every right under international law to invade, conquer, and ANNEX them. (They should have done this with the West Bank in 67,IMHO)


34 posted on 09/17/2011 2:43:43 PM PDT by Sigurdrifta
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To: DManA

Everything I said was true. Nations come and go. A group of people can create nationhood very deliberately. It’s happening in Greenland right now, for instance.


35 posted on 09/17/2011 2:44:31 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: beebuster2000
It's a society whose sole means for existence and only product is “hate the Jews”!
I am reminded of a quote from Golda Meir when asked when will it all stop (terrorism), she said,’ When the love their children more then they hate us!’.
Unfortunately I don't think that will ever happen, ‘hate’ is the whole Palestinian reason for existence! The majority of them practice a religion that is built almost completely out of “ hate the other”, meaning those how don't share their misogynist, fatalistic, violent hate-filled word-view they call a religion!
36 posted on 09/17/2011 2:46:03 PM PDT by Reily
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To: beebuster2000

People can’t just declare themselves a state. That would be like the Tea Party declaring themselves an American state and expecting to have the rights of a state. Palestinians live in Israel, and until Israel agrees to be divided into states including a Palestinian state, there are no states. Also, the Palestinians want a vote in the UN after declaring statehood. No way.


37 posted on 09/17/2011 2:46:34 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: vladimir998

It was comparing American history to the current Palestinian/Israel situation that is insane. For so many reasons it’s not even worth taking this any farther.


38 posted on 09/17/2011 2:47:17 PM PDT by DManA
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To: beebuster2000

I hate when someone clueless starts a thread then never engages in it...... =.=


39 posted on 09/17/2011 2:47:24 PM PDT by cranked
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To: beebuster2000

God gave the Jews that land. In fact, the borders which He gave them was much larger than what they end up with today. He IS going to settle that situation suddenly and decisively. After He does, and people ask why that happened; tell them John 3:16.

That’s why I care. I pray for the peace of Jerusalem; but the Palestinians (Muslims) lob rockets over on to Israel from new borders every time Israel gives up “land for peace”. When Israel dares retaliate, Israel is condemned by the rest of the world.

The Turkish/Code Pink flotilla against Israel’s blockade of Gaza is an example of the split personality that Israel must contend with that makes absolutely no common sense.

Israel is an example of people being productive and innovative. The blood pressure drugs I take were researched, developed and produced in Israel. The list of Jewish advances in science, medicine and other categories is a long one. The list of “Palestinian/Muslim” advances in science, medicine and other categories is about two inches long.

Yet, our President and others pretend otherwise.


40 posted on 09/17/2011 2:47:48 PM PDT by Twinkie (For God (the Father) so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son .. John 3:16)
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