Posted on 09/18/2011 1:22:21 PM PDT by SGW
This man [ Mitsuo Fuchida ] who led the first wave of airplane attacks on Pearl Harbor during the Second World War was honored with United States citizenship in 1966. His attack caused the deaths of 2500 Americans the morning of December 7, 1941.
“After World War II ended, Fuchida became an evangelist Christian preacher and frequently travelled to the United States to minister to the Japanese expatriate community. He became a United States citizen in 1966.”
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He was a naval aviator following a legal order from his superiors, not a mass murderer. And yes Pearl Harbor was a legitimate wartime target.
He had an awakening ala Amazing Grace. I was blind but now I see.
Epic Fail
Fuchida was in uniform and a legal combatant
unless somebody can turn up evidence that Fuchida was a guard on the burma rail way ,a member of the Kempeitai or other wise a war criminal
this just stirring the crap
Amazing,,, you can see NAZI soldiers doing that to civilians as “just being soldiers”. But a pilot launched from a carrier is somehow a depraved murderer.
And earlier you seemed to think it was bad that we go after Nazis.
It’s worse than idiotic to not see the difference, it’s deeper than ignorance,,,yes, it’s positively european!
PS,, for every resistance member,, there were 100 collaborators, turning in Jews. French are more notorious anti-semites than Germans, so why should we let them into the USA either? See how it works?
Fuchida’s military career bio is well documented by the US military. http://ww2db.com/person_bio.php?person_id=98
God is an iron and His ways are not our our ways.
My only point is that you should not reward people for killing thousands of people with US citizenship. That is all. This is not about eternal vengeance.
The distinction I see here is that many are willing to look the other way when someone kills thousands of people as long as it is done in the name of war and for the right reasons.
I am not. You do not honor people who have killed thousands with US citizenship regradless of the reason.
Many on this blog are willing to accept individuals as US citizens who have killed thousands if they had the right reasons like being in a war.
This Fuchida guy was a known quantity. As a society we should draw the line. Mass killers whether with good reason or not should not be honored.
Wait. Someone asked me what skin I had in the game. I explained my story. the rest of what you are saying makes no sense. I never said Nazis should be given a pass.
I said that German soldiers under the guise of orders did some pretty horrible things just like the Japanese.
As I have said I am walking away from this discussion understandning that a lot of people are ok with accepting people who have killed thousands if they have the right reason.
I am simply not ok with that. As a society we should not honor those who have killed thousands with citizenship regradless of reasons.
And that is grandpas skin in the game,,,not yours. We all had grandparents in the war. Men from pearl harbor have met and become friends with those flyers. Men who fought in the pacific befreinded Fuchida. They had no problem with him being an American decades later. Grudge holding is the hallmark of Europeans, not Americans. And it’s certainly not what the good lord wants us to do.
Maybe if you had skin in the game,,
How about all the other pilots on that fateful mission that day, they were just as guilty as their Captain weren't they?
But lets see, shall we talk about Utah Beach, Omaha Beach, or perhaps the Battle of Gazala, or El Alamein, or the battles of Moscow, or Stalingrad and the enemy commanders who were responsible?
And lets not forget the battle of the Bulge or especially Porkchop hill in Korea.......
Your argument is ridiculous and I can't believe I've spent so much time dealing with your ignorance............
All I can say is this: If you have a problem with this, then you don’t understand the Grace of God.
“Instead, he adopted the attitude that he was there to do a job and help turn an enemy into an American friend.”
With that attitude, there is a certainty that he made differenced that he never even knew. Guaranteed that some Japanese watched him, and learned from his example,,, and that your dad never knew how profoundly he affected them. Somewhere is an old japanese man, who was a kid then,,who yells a story about the American soldier who gave him candy. Bet your boots on it,,,
Why don't you get back on to the original subject matter of the article instead of trying to hijack it?
I totally agree. Was Doolittle honored with Japanese citizenship? Was he honored with citizenship by any country whose thousands of citizens he killed? I don’t think so.
That is my only point. You simply do not honor someone for mass killings with citizernship. That is my only point.
I also understand that many on this blog are ok with giving someone citizenship who has killed thousands of people if that person has the right cincumstances and reasons.
I am not ok with this.
Once you do that, perhaps it might sink into your skull that the only thing Commander Fuchida is guilty of was getting his planes over target on time while the diplomats tripped over themselves in DC. Furthermore, later in his life during his years as an evangelist, Fuchida faced many men who were at Pearl Harbor during the attack and expressed his sorrow for the losses inflicted by his force.
War is war. Japan, and Fuchida, paid for their folly a thousand times over.
So cut Fuchida some slack and stop being an Ugly American.
Thank God you aren't Jesus.
It’s,,, like you didn’t learn anything at all from that old Brando movie,,”Sayonara”. Or surely you saw “Bridges of Toko-Ri”.
“I also understand that many on this blog “
FR is a blog? When did this happen?
That is not the point.
The distinction I am making is that you do not reward someone with citizenship who has killed thousands of people regradless of reason.
I did not say he should have been eternally punished. Only when it came to US citizenship he should not have been rewarded when he killed thousdands of people regradless of reasons.
I understand your point. You are willing to forgive someone for killing thousands of people if they have the right reason and you are willing to honor them with US citizenship. I got it!
I understand the differences. I still will never change my mind.
Who honored him and with what awards? As I said before, that word was chosen by the writer of some Japanese guy who died 35 years ago..........
And what was the original subject matter of the article? Did you read it?
So you must have a hard time dealing with everyone from the southern US.
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