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Have Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich borrowed a strategy from TV's Survivor?
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Posted on 11/07/2011 8:10:32 AM PST by Brookhaven

First off, I've never actually seen an episode of "Survivor", but as I understand the show:

(1) It is an elimination game, where players are eliminated one at a time, and the last person standing is the winner.

(2) Players often form alliances to increase their chances of being among the last handful of contestants standing.

It's obvious to see how a political primary is like #1, but something I heard on the radio this morning made me think Herman and Newt may also be using strategy #2: they are going to appear on the Neil Boortz radio show today--together; at the same time; in the same interview.

Herman Cain has bragged about running an unconventional campagin. Newt has been accused by the mainstream media of not taking this seriously, because he's not following a traditional campaign process (yet, he must be doing something right, because he is suddenly getting lots of traction in the polls). Teaming up like this would obviously be another unconventional strategy.

The Texas debate between Newt and Herman revealed a couple of interesting facts about the two:

(1) There is little difference between the two when it comes to long term goals. Oh, they have differences about the road we should take, but they are almost total agreement about the destination. From taxes to entitlements to defense, their ideas about where the country should be headed in the long run are identical.

(2) Their styles are a perfect compliment for each other. Newt is the wonkish, idea guy that is unmatched in explaining HOW we should approach a problem. Herman is the big-picture guy, that excels at explaining WHY we need to take a certain approach to solving a problem.

Newt and Herman are the only two "big change" guys in the race--the only two saying we need to make fundamental changes to our system if we're going to avoid the financial meltdown looming. The other candidates (Romney, Bachmann, Perry, etc...) are tweaking the current system--kicking the can down the road.

Anyway, I haven't seen any stories about Newt & Herman on this, so I thought I'd post it.

PS

With all due respect to Ron Paul, I know he has proposed some "big changes" as well, but they are (for the most part) Libertarian big changes, not conservative big changes.


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1 posted on 11/07/2011 8:10:41 AM PST by Brookhaven
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To: K-oneTexas; Tucker822; Kartographer; freekitty; carmody; Dead Corpse; MsLady; Publius772000; ...

Cain and Gingrich are on Boortz now

http://streaming.wsbradio.com/_players/coxradio/index.php?callsign=BOORTZ


2 posted on 11/07/2011 8:21:43 AM PST by justsaynomore (Pray for Herman Cain)
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To: justsaynomore

Interesting strategy


3 posted on 11/07/2011 8:22:06 AM PST by therightliveswithus
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To: Brookhaven

They are both getting interviewed by Neal Boortz right now. Tune to WSB 750AM. Listening to it through the Internet radio.

www.boortz.com


4 posted on 11/07/2011 8:22:17 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: Brookhaven

Have a feeling these two are going to run against... Romney and Perry (the establishment choice).


5 posted on 11/07/2011 8:23:25 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: Brookhaven
You forgot one important factor.

Neither the neophyte Cain or washed up Newt will ever be elected potus. Fact is, the GOP has no one who could beat Obama today. Lets hope that changes. Until then, keep daydreaming.

6 posted on 11/07/2011 8:23:30 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: K-oneTexas; Tucker822; Kartographer; freekitty; carmody; Dead Corpse; MsLady; Publius772000; ...

Cain and Gingrich are on Boortz now

http://streaming.wsbradio.com/_players/coxradio/index.php?callsign=BOORTZ


7 posted on 11/07/2011 8:24:41 AM PST by justsaynomore (Pray for Herman Cain)
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To: Reagan Man
I thought the 'debate' between the two was a huge waste of time if you were interested in getting down to the brass tacks of what either man really stands for and why they want to be President. Cain looked uninformed and out of his depth, although very genial and charismatic. Newt looked more like the college professor he once was than a President.

This appearance was probably good PR, it showed both men in a nice, friendly atmosphere but it generated neither heat nor light.

8 posted on 11/07/2011 8:27:03 AM PST by pgkdan ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: therightliveswithus

They’d be a good team.

I can forgive Newt, for his past, if he’s really changed. As a strategist, he’d be unmatched.


9 posted on 11/07/2011 8:27:28 AM PST by Jonty30
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To: Reagan Man

>>Fact is, the GOP has no one who could beat Obama today.<<

Mickey Mouse could beat Obama today.
We need the RIGHT candidate to do it.


10 posted on 11/07/2011 8:27:30 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Jonty30

I can forgive him for the personal indiscretions. It is his views on national sovereignty, globalization, and one world government I can’t get past. He could be very useful in an advisory role on domestic policy, but I don’t want him anywhere near the State department.


11 posted on 11/07/2011 8:30:54 AM PST by wolfman23601
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To: Sprite518

Newt is not an establishment guy? Newt has already spent more time in DC and around the RNC than Perry could ever hope to. Isn’t Newt’s office now on K street? How is he not establishment?


12 posted on 11/07/2011 8:32:11 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: pgkdan; Reagan Man

Your style of posting is an excellent example of why Perry went from 30% to single digits in the polls

GOP Voters want issue based candidates, not candidates who spend all their time flaming out at the other GOP candidates in the race.

GOP voters have seen your sort of gutter politics before. They are use to having it directed at them and so reject it when they see people, supposedly on our side, engaging in them.

Perry will never come back as long as his supporters continue using these childish personal attack style politics.

You Perry supporters were warned in Sept to focus on the issues and drop the sleazy personal attacks. But the Perry camp though they were oh so clever trash talking everyone else in the campaign. Having sown the wind, Camp Perry is now reaping the whirl wind from GOP voters.

So how about instead of the childish personal attack at Cain you habitual post, you try ONE time making a case FOR your candidate instead?

Ah but that right, when you cannot win on the issues all you are left with is this sort of Leftist style sleazy attack politics


13 posted on 11/07/2011 8:32:11 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Brookhaven
Great interview!

Loved the part where Newt/Cain said (paraphrasing) if you keep Washington DC the same, manage it, then Mitt is your candidate. If you want to change the course that our country is heading then Cain/Newt are the candidates you want.

The Establishment (power Elite) in Washington are going nuts! That's why they are dragging that woman out today.

14 posted on 11/07/2011 8:32:29 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: Reagan Man
Fact is, the GOP has no one who could beat Obama today.

Thanks for dropping the facade that you were a Conservative Obama-man.

Nice to see you finally being honest about which side you really play for.

15 posted on 11/07/2011 8:35:06 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: pgkdan

If you care not a with what either man would seek to do to correct problems in the economy and social security, I can see why you would claim the recent sit-down with Cain and Gingrich was fruitless. BTW, did you even watch it all the way through? Both men were strong on specific ways to fix problems, with Newt being more specific than Herman and connecting his solutions to historic record of debates which have occurred in Congress over the ‘politically rejected’ solutions We The People need ... like taking Social Security taxes off/out of the general funding and then doing the hard things to balance the budget.


16 posted on 11/07/2011 8:35:11 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Both men were not specific. Newt was but Cain just spoke in sound bites and twice asked Newt to go first because I suspect he didn’t understand the question. This was NOT a good showing for Cain, but if you want to think it was I’m not going to try to dissuade you.


17 posted on 11/07/2011 8:38:01 AM PST by pgkdan ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: pgkdan

LOL! Are you joking? You think Perry sounds great?

Cain and Gingrich are way far ahead of Perry. They also have WAY MORE CLASSS than Perry.


18 posted on 11/07/2011 8:39:12 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: pgkdan

LOL! So you Perry supporter wish.

Most conservatives, objective peope, that watched the debate really liked it.

The ONLY people I know that have that view are the Perry supporters. After all they were in Texas and Perry was no where to be found. Perry cannot debate which was the REAL reason he was not there.


19 posted on 11/07/2011 8:42:07 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: MNJohnnie
GOP Voters want issue based candidates, not candidates who spend all their time flaming out at the other GOP candidates in the race.

GOP voters have seen your sort of gutter politics before. They are use to having it directed at them and so reject it when they see people, supposedly on our side, engaging in them.

Perry will never come back as long as his supporters continue using these childish personal attack style politics.

Have you taken your meds today? What personal attack have I made on Cain other than pointing out that he was very light in specifics in his last debate? That's not an ad hominem!

I find it the very heigfht of hypocrisy when a Cain or formeer Palin supporter talks about someone else making personal attacks! You people have pilloried Rick Perry unfairly and dishonestly since the day he entered the race.

I think your post is a perfect example of the psycholgical trait known as projection!

20 posted on 11/07/2011 8:42:17 AM PST by pgkdan ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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