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Have Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich borrowed a strategy from TV's Survivor?
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Posted on 11/07/2011 8:10:32 AM PST by Brookhaven

First off, I've never actually seen an episode of "Survivor", but as I understand the show:

(1) It is an elimination game, where players are eliminated one at a time, and the last person standing is the winner.

(2) Players often form alliances to increase their chances of being among the last handful of contestants standing.

It's obvious to see how a political primary is like #1, but something I heard on the radio this morning made me think Herman and Newt may also be using strategy #2: they are going to appear on the Neil Boortz radio show today--together; at the same time; in the same interview.

Herman Cain has bragged about running an unconventional campagin. Newt has been accused by the mainstream media of not taking this seriously, because he's not following a traditional campaign process (yet, he must be doing something right, because he is suddenly getting lots of traction in the polls). Teaming up like this would obviously be another unconventional strategy.

The Texas debate between Newt and Herman revealed a couple of interesting facts about the two:

(1) There is little difference between the two when it comes to long term goals. Oh, they have differences about the road we should take, but they are almost total agreement about the destination. From taxes to entitlements to defense, their ideas about where the country should be headed in the long run are identical.

(2) Their styles are a perfect compliment for each other. Newt is the wonkish, idea guy that is unmatched in explaining HOW we should approach a problem. Herman is the big-picture guy, that excels at explaining WHY we need to take a certain approach to solving a problem.

Newt and Herman are the only two "big change" guys in the race--the only two saying we need to make fundamental changes to our system if we're going to avoid the financial meltdown looming. The other candidates (Romney, Bachmann, Perry, etc...) are tweaking the current system--kicking the can down the road.

Anyway, I haven't seen any stories about Newt & Herman on this, so I thought I'd post it.

PS

With all due respect to Ron Paul, I know he has proposed some "big changes" as well, but they are (for the most part) Libertarian big changes, not conservative big changes.


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To: Sprite518
Most conservatives, objective peope, that watched the debate really liked it.

Gee...sorry I forgot to check with you see what 'most conservatives' and objective people were thinking!

21 posted on 11/07/2011 8:44:11 AM PST by pgkdan ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: Reagan Man

Ahh an “Establishment” follower....

You need to think for yourself and quit letting the Ghouls and Goons in the so called “Main Stream Media” lead you around by your nose.


22 posted on 11/07/2011 8:44:40 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: jospehm20

The “establishment” is against him right now.

There is NO WAY you can deny that right now.


23 posted on 11/07/2011 8:45:48 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: pgkdan

I’m a Gingrich supporter, but that was a nice try to impugn Herman Cain. You contradicted yourself, also. Start with both men very not specific then shift to Gingrich was ... make up your mind if you’re going to toss out vacuous accusations. I heard a lot of specifics from Newt Gingrich. He was also charming and folksy, which to some degree stole the show from Herman who is very folksy.


24 posted on 11/07/2011 8:46:14 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: pgkdan

Oh I know and that is why Perry is droping like a rock in the Polls


25 posted on 11/07/2011 8:46:56 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: Brookhaven
Have Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich borrowed a strategy from TV's Survivor?

Cain and Gingrich are stalking horses. They will split the "able to debate well but morally questionable" voters, Bachmann and Santorum will split the "moderately unsuccessful legislators" voters, Perry and Romney will split the "questionable slick governors" voters and Johnson and Huntsman split the "checked the wrong block on the ballot" voters.

RON PAUL WINS EVERY PRIMARY WITHOUT GOING OVER 12%!!

26 posted on 11/07/2011 8:47:18 AM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: pgkdan
Caught most of the “bully session” in rerun and couldn't agree with you more. Actually, it was kind of boring to watch.

Both Newt and Cain are playing this for all its worth. Their campaigning for potus will enhance the resume of men and make future speaking tours much more lucrative.

27 posted on 11/07/2011 8:49:12 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: pgkdan

Well stated.


28 posted on 11/07/2011 8:52:24 AM PST by annieokie
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To: pgkdan
After the last six weeks or so, one thing is certain. You will get no rational debate or civil discussion from these Cainiacs. They're in a state of emotional euphoria and totally infatuated with the pizza-man. He walks on water and can do no wrong.

My advice is to start ignoring these yahoos. Bunch of trouble making juvenile delinquents.

29 posted on 11/07/2011 8:56:33 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: pgkdan

President Carter was a master on specifics, and a superb micro manager. President Reagan on the other hand was never a person steeped in details. A great president sets the direction he wants country to move and then the thousands of people in the executive branch manage the details.


30 posted on 11/07/2011 9:00:32 AM PST by federal__reserve (Dr. Paul Volcker, the best Chairman of federal Reserve in half a century.)
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31 posted on 11/07/2011 9:04:54 AM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: Brookhaven

They are in cahoots.

They even said that their biggest disagreement is who should be at the top of the ticket.


32 posted on 11/07/2011 9:08:41 AM PST by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: pgkdan
Both men were not specific. Newt was but Cain just spoke in sound bites and twice asked Newt to go first because I suspect he didn't’t understand the question. This was NOT a good showing for Cain, but if you want to think it was I’m not going to try to dissuade you

I don't think most people expect Cain to understand every little details of every policy going on in Washington. That would be like Godfather's expecting Cain to understand every little detail about making and selling pizza before hiring him. He knew nothing about that yet was able to turn them around. To me the principles are more important, not knowing all the details.
33 posted on 11/07/2011 9:13:03 AM PST by NoDRodee (U>S>M>C)
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To: Reagan Man
“My advice is to start ignoring these yahoos. Bunch of trouble making juvenile delinquents.”

Sincere advice from a man who spends most of his time condemning a conservative Republican? You have repeatedly condemned Mr. Cain based on the latest MSM smear attack. This has been a smear attack based on nonspecific allegations by anonymous sources. And your pseudonym is “Reagan Man”? You have repeatedly violated Reagan's 11th Commandment. You should be ashamed.

34 posted on 11/07/2011 9:40:22 AM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: Reagan Man

Agreed. I keep telling myself that’s exactly what I’m going to do but then...oh well, the Spirit is willing but the temper is weak.


35 posted on 11/07/2011 9:47:32 AM PST by pgkdan ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: Sprite518

I haven’t heard Rove, Perrino et. al. talking down Gingrich. I did see the Rove/Bush gang support Hutchison over Perry for Governor last year. Saying that the former Speaker of the House, who still has his office on the same street as all the lobbysists, is not an establishment guy is ludicrous. Why do you suppose his office is on K street in DC? It is a curious location choice for somebody who does not have much use for the establishment.


36 posted on 11/07/2011 9:47:45 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: MNJohnnie
They are use to having it directed at them and so reject it when they see people, supposedly on our side, engaging in them.

Absolutely correct!


Where there's a shell, there's a way.

If you can't appreciate the pure beauty of the violin after hearing this, something's wrong with your ears.

Or you can get raw with these strings. Either way, the violin is sweet yet lethal.

Do it!

37 posted on 11/07/2011 9:57:37 AM PST by rdb3 (The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart.)
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To: Jonty30

“As a strategist, he’d be unmatched.”

Bill Clinton’s still alive, and could probably take him out with a coupla minute phone call while he’s on the can.


38 posted on 11/07/2011 10:00:18 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: Reagan Man
After the last six weeks or so, one thing is certain. You will get no rational debate or civil discussion from these Cainiacs. They're in a state of emotional euphoria and totally infatuated with the pizza-man. He walks on water and can do no wrong.

My advice is to start ignoring these yahoos. Bunch of trouble making juvenile delinquents.

I've been following the back and forth of these posts on this thread and it's good to see a reasonable and logical perry supporter, offering rational debate and civil discussion.

No inflammatory rhetoric nor juvenile name calling, just solid logic and civil discourse.

Thank you Reagan man, those among us that support Herman Cain are very grateful for your calm voice of reason and we will try not to make trouble for you, Mr. reasonable, sir.

With your attitude, President Reagan is requesting that you change your screen name, as your usage of his name is a abomination and a sacrilege.

39 posted on 11/07/2011 10:03:03 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke the Terrorists Savages)
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To: jospehm20

“Newt is not an establishment guy?”

The previous poster said Newt is not the establishment choice, not that he wasn’t an establishment guy. There’s a difference.

You don’t get any more establishment than Rove, but if he were suddenly to throw his hat in, the powers that be would still pick Romney or Perry.


40 posted on 11/07/2011 10:06:00 AM PST by Tublecane
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