Skip to comments.Rudy Giuliani (4 years ago today was the front runner. It's not over yet, folks!)
Posted on 11/16/2011 8:44:13 PM PST by Sun
Giuliani took the lead in national polls until December 2007, when he began to fall behind other candidates (snip)
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No problem, I’ve done that myself, and you are CORRECT.
“So don’t give up on fighting for your favorite conservative candidate. There’s still time!”
I agree. But 2008 is an unfortunate example. We got the most Rinoreest of RINOS as our candidate.
Mitt 2008 = Mitt 2012
McCain 2008 = Newt 2012
Ron Paul 2008 = Ron Paul 2012
Huckabee 2008 = Bachmann + Santorum 2012
Giuliani 2008 = Perry 2012
F. Thompson 2008 = Cain 2012
You don’t necessarily get the same results every year.
Newt has more terrible divorces, has peaked, or will peak, too early, and is no war hero.
Ron Paul, 4 years ago at this time, was at 3% in the polls, and some recent polls have him as high as 20% (others around 12%). So, he’s ahead of last time.
The tea party didn’t exist 4 years ago. Will they rally behind a candidate they don’t really like that much, or if they’re worried about other factors, if the alternative is Romney?
You can't compare a POS RINO AR Gov with two conservatives. I see no populism or schmaltzy folk-isms from Bachmann or Santorum.
In '08, my most sensible choice in the Primaries was Mittens compared to the other garbage running. There was no Obamacare and McLame was to the left of Mittens in that field. Now Mittens is to the far left of the other candidates like McLame was to those candidates. There are some other questionable calls. Guiliani is a straight up pro choice RINO. Not really a good match up with a God fearing Perry. Also I don't see a match-up for Newt at all. So many things are different, like you point out, that there are few comparisons that can be made.
I’m not saying they’re the same in all respects.
I’m saying that the Huck slot, the socon slot, could be filled by Bachmann and Santorum. They’re both closely affiliated with the Social Conservatives, the Evangelicals. And that’s who Huckabee appealed to.
Giuliani = Perry because - 1) Both were pumped up by the elites for no real apparent reason. 2) Perry endorsed Giuliani in 2008. 3) Perry and Giuliani worked on business deals together.
McCain = Newt because “the most famous one” “the gold watch” “lifetime achievement award”
I worked on Reagan’s campaign in Texas in 1980 so I remember all that quite well. I was basing my comments on my experience in that and subsequent campaigns.
My horse in this race is whoever is going to defeat Obama. At the end of the day, that’s all that matters.
Wouldn’t it be funny if this GOP primary was all a show for the marxist media and the socialist DNC until the last moment when the real candidate steps forward and floors them all, not Rudy, but......................................
Yes, 2008 was bad, but my point is, we shouldn’t base our decision on poll numbers, particularly this early.
“My horse in this race is whoever is going to defeat Obama.”
Many Dems voted for Kerry in the primaries, even though they didn’t like him, because they thought he would win the General. Of course, he did not.
Let’s not make a misake and pick a “moderate” candidate, just because we THINK they can win.
Hope we can all join together in this primary season, and pick the most CONSERVATIVE candidate.