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NASA’s Bushnell: LENR Solves Global Climate and Energy
ECat News ^ | December 2, 2011 | admin

Posted on 12/03/2011 12:27:29 AM PST by Kevmo


NASA’s Bushnell: BTW LENR Solves Global Climate and Energy
admin on December 2, 2011 — 9 Comments
The long-awaited details from Dennis Bushnell’s Sep 22, 2011 presentation have surfaced. They are still not on the official site (bottom of page) and I can’t find the original through Google, so I put a slight cautionary note here that the contents have yet to be verified. Believe it or not, these are just some of the points he makes. None of them will surprise many of you reading this but even so and coming from someone famed for sticking his neck out like Dennis Bushnell, I still have to say, Wow!
Over 2 decades with over 100 experiments worldwide indicate LENR is real, much greater than Chemical, Transmutations, Minimal radiation
The many Rossi demonstrations in 2011 suggest LENR may produce”useful” quantities of heat [up to 15KWs ?]. Watts-to-Kilowatts also produced in Piantelli and Patterson Experiments
Between Chemical and strong force Nuc Energy Densities with minimal radiation safety/ protection requirements/ issues, probably “inexpensive”
Direct and potentially massively/ truly “game-changing”
The Rossi device, possibly producing useful energy but wholly “Edisonian”, not “scalable” and not “Optimized”
Huge number of “knobs”/ approaches appear to”work”, issue is how good can it be? Requires experiments guided by theory and major “creative” efforts/ inputs along with CAREFUL Experiments, YEARS of effort required. Rossi is just the merest beginnings of the research/ engineering optimization required.
Superb light weight power/ energy sources for space probes/ instruments and hoppers/ rovers, far less expensive than solar and better than radiologics for beyond Mars where solar does not “work”
Reduced LEO (Low Earth Orbit) and in space propulsion weights/ costs
Solves EDL (Entry, Descent, and Landing) for large payloads to Mars via ingestion, heating and retro injection of atmospheric CO2
Potentially obviates order of 80% of the 1000 metric ton LEO (Low Earth Orbit) up-mass for Humans Mars which is in-space fuel, Propulsive mass from far outer region atmosphere or regolith
Source for energy beaming, energy to terraform Mars, Enables Active Space Radiation Protection
Overall, enables what we have never had – “Energy Rich” design space[s]
Fuel fraction becomes negligible, huge impacts upon vehicle gross weights, especially for SST’s which are some 55% fuel fraction
For the military– EMP on steroids, VTOL obviates air bases/ runways/ carrier decks, enables loitering combined sensor/ weapon devices [ instead of getting there in time ARE THERE, always]
In Short, LENR , depending upon the TBD performance, appears to be capable of Revolutionizing Aerospace across the board. No other single technology even comes close to the potential impacts of LENR upon Agency Missions.
Test/ determine the performance of the Rossi and Piantelli devices
Experimentally validate the weak interaction theories
The 2 decades of experiments and the weak interaction theories have removed the existential risk, what is remaining is to ENGINEER for improved performance. Also obviously all the safety issues, labs have blown up studying this arena
SO – Invent/ create optimized/ improved LENR “Devices”, testing “Rossi” is merely a small first step, do the systems and propulsive/other application R&D
BTW LENR [ also] solves Global Climate and Energy
We went directly from Chemical to strong force Nuc and in the process bought huge energetics improvements and radiation protection/ safety issues that precluded fission nuc application[s], We leapt over the weak interaction energetics landscape except for radiologics. It is time to back-track.




From the NASA website

http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/sensors/PhySen/research.htm



Tests conducted at NASA Glenn Research Center in 1989 and elsewhere consistently showed evidence of anomalous heat during gaseous loading and unloading deuterium into bulk palladium. At one time called “cold fusion,” now called “low-energy nuclear reactions” (LENR), such effects are now published in peer-reviewed journals and are gaining attention and mainstream respectability. The instrumentation expertise of NASA GRC is applied to improve the diagnostics for investigating the anomalous heat in LENR.
Relevant Presentation: + Download presentation given at a LENR Workshop at NASA GRC in 2011 [available soon].




TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics; Science
KEYWORDS: climatechange; cmns; coldfusion; ecat; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; lenr
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To: CodeToad

• Here’s my standard ‘ignore’ post to Code Toad.
This will be my standard post to you that says you’re not worth trying to have reasonable discussion, also says “buzz off” & doesn’t leave crickets. Since you have degenerated into unsubstantiated accusations of calling a fellow Freeper a liar (and a liberal) without backing it up, you have demonstrated that you are not here to discuss things on a level that Free Republic intended.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2815573/posts?page=17#17


141 posted on 12/05/2011 8:56:45 AM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: CodeToad

You constantly lie
***• Here’s my standard ‘ignore’ post to Code Toad.
This will be my standard post to you that says you’re not worth trying to have reasonable discussion, also says “buzz off” & doesn’t leave crickets. Since you have degenerated into unsubstantiated accusations of calling a fellow Freeper a liar (and a liberal) without backing it up, you have demonstrated that you are not here to discuss things on a level that Free Republic intended.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2815573/posts?page=17#17


142 posted on 12/05/2011 9:38:23 AM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Kevmo; CodeToad

Hey, Kevmo—PRO TIP: POSTING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER TO SOMEONE IS NOT THE SAME AS IGNORING HIM.


143 posted on 12/05/2011 10:32:50 AM PST by dinodino
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To: CodeToad

Damn Toad!!

Why you gotta be so MEAN??


144 posted on 12/05/2011 11:57:57 AM PST by Awnest (Live free or die.)
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To: Lx

Thanks for the honesty. Good thing I live in FL and drive a VOLT.


145 posted on 12/05/2011 12:00:29 PM PST by Awnest (Live free or die.)
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To: Lx
It pulls a 35 foot boat as well ~ to and from my private slip on the Bay.

And yours?

146 posted on 12/05/2011 12:24:51 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: dinodino

It is not the same, you’re right. It’s better.


147 posted on 12/05/2011 1:03:37 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Awnest; Kevmo

I forgot to mention that I’m the project manager that is in charge of suppressing batteries that could quadruple your mileage before your engine starts. They’re ready for production now but we can’t upset the energy apple cart. But the real reason is the same as always, profit! They will start out in phones and laptops and the story will be that they can’t be scaled up and remain competitive price wise.

You would be surprised to know the players in this particular game.


148 posted on 12/05/2011 4:21:30 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: muawiyah; Kevmo
This 35 foot boat, does it really exist; can you touch it, put it in the water or does it only exist in your fevered mind?

You don't have any slip, no, it's a private slip. Well, if you're gonna B.S, might as well dream big.

Does your Hyundai have stainless steel or bronze muffler bearings? That might be why you get good mileage. I find it interesting that your fevered delusions obey the laws of physics.

According to the company's own information there are "conversion kits" out there that should snap right in so I can use other fuels ~ but I should still avoid E85.

What other fuels are these, antimatter, dilithium crystals, magnetic monopoles? What just snaps in so you can use alternative fuels? There aren't exactly a whole lot of options out there, there's gaz, propane, CNG.

Why should you avoid E85? Beside the fact Ethanol is murder on standard rubber lines, it's also less powerful so the jetting must be enriched. Easy enough to do in a fuel injected vehicle but how does the vehicle know what it's running? I think you should try E85 as a scientific test to see what damage if any it does. You sat next to someone who knew something about cars when you were sorting mail so no problem from E85 should be beyond your remarkable abilities. Go for it and report back, you'll be doing society a favor.

149 posted on 12/05/2011 4:37:59 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: muawiyah

A thirty-five foot boat? REALLY? Riiiiiiight.

I have a 35-foot (sail) boat and it would take one BIG truck and trailer with a cradle to tow it. I’m assuming your boat is a powerboat, but even still, a 35-footer should take a dual-axle trailer and should weigh morethan you could tow with your Hyundai...


150 posted on 12/05/2011 5:47:26 PM PST by dinodino
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To: muawiyah; Lx

Oh, and why the hell do you have a slip if you can tow your boat anyway? Sheesh.


151 posted on 12/05/2011 5:49:48 PM PST by dinodino
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To: dinodino
Hurricanes are a problem from time to time. In a normal season you get one or two, and then in the winter you get Nor'easters, which are like hurricanes but with sleet, etc.

You need to tow your boat to a safer area.

152 posted on 12/05/2011 6:03:08 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah; Lx

Sure, whatever. Of course, my boat is in the water year-round in Florida, but what would I know about hurricanes?

[rolling eyes]


153 posted on 12/05/2011 6:08:51 PM PST by dinodino
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To: dinodino
You may have a few but Florida is a huge place with lots of shoreline. All we have is the Chesapeake and its tributaries. We sometimes have 25 foot storm surges that come UP the Potomac and sweep everything before them.

When that happens simultaneously with 50 foot of water coming down the Potomac from the Piedmont then you get problems. A storm in 1972 swept swept away most of a huge steel bridge. Just gone.

154 posted on 12/05/2011 6:28:10 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah; Lx

Let’s get back on topic. What model is the 14-year old Hyundai you are using to pull this 35-foot boat? What is the combined weight of boat and trailer? How many axles?


155 posted on 12/05/2011 6:32:54 PM PST by dinodino
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To: Lx

Here’s my standard ‘ignore’ post to Lx.

This will be my standard post to you that says you’re not worth trying to have reasonable discussion, also says “buzz off” & doesn’t leave crickets. Maybe you should sign up for a few more years of therapy.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2813439/posts?page=91#91

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2811976/posts?page=165#165

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2811976/posts?page=164#164

• Sven Kullander On Rossi And eCat
Saturday, November 26, 2011 1:55:59 PM • 164 of 169
Lx to Kevmo
I see...years of therapy on your horizon, better start now.
It’s really helped me be nicer, more sympathetic and understanding.
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156 posted on 12/05/2011 8:54:44 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Lx

Here’s my standard ‘ignore’ post to Lx.

This will be my standard post to you that says you’re not worth trying to have reasonable discussion, also says “buzz off” & doesn’t leave crickets. Maybe you should sign up for a few more years of therapy.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2813439/posts?page=91#91

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2811976/posts?page=165#165

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2811976/posts?page=164#164

• Sven Kullander On Rossi And eCat
Saturday, November 26, 2011 1:55:59 PM • 164 of 169
Lx to Kevmo
I see...years of therapy on your horizon, better start now.
It’s really helped me be nicer, more sympathetic and understanding.
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157 posted on 12/05/2011 8:55:39 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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To: Lx
Hmmm, gee Lx, considering a battery is an electrical storage device requiring an engine to convert its energy to mechanical work... How does the battery "quadruple mileage before your engine starts?" Have you got that orange propeller beanie on your head again??
158 posted on 12/06/2011 6:06:46 PM PST by Awnest (Live free or die.)
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To: Awnest
Hey genius, you said you drove a Volt; were you lying? The batteries of which I speak and suppress would allow your Volt to run 4 times its current distance before the engine starts up.

FYI, A motor runs on electricity, an engine runs on fuel.

Aren't you late for your P.E. class? Hate to see them keep you from making senior when all your friends are and you're still a Junior. Ah, the High School years, back before most people didn't have a clue to what they didn't know.

You were saying...

159 posted on 12/06/2011 9:26:03 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Kevmo
Here's my standard post to remind him of what he see each time he looks in the mirror...


160 posted on 12/06/2011 9:27:42 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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