Posted on 12/11/2011 2:11:26 PM PST by mainestategop
So could some catholics explain this to me?
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because lust is a sin?
I have an idea but the letters continually flying in from all angles to make phrases underneath are very irritating and distracting.
One needs to define the difference between sexual desire and lust then. And I coulnd’t watch the whole thing because of those never-ending stupid whirling letters.
Well, did you watch it?
Did it not make sense to you?
Do you not believe that a husband can sexually degrade his wife, or treat her as a mere object of pleasure? Contraception, abortion, sexual abuse and degrading sexual behavior all exist WITHIN marriages, not just outside of them.
One should marry out of love not lust.
That is probably the point. Badly made point.
Too early in the morning to figure this out. Bump for later.
Yes, sexual desire is good; lust is illicit, inordinate, selfish or uncontrolled sexual desire, however.
You are absolutely right IMHO. In principle sexual desire is good. In fallen humans it is disordered, which means we experience it inappropriately and often with a kind of selfishness which interferes with charity.
“Lust” is not a passion. Passions are not intrinsically sinful. Lust is a sin, which means it involves the will and is a defect in charity.
Lust happens before you get married.
because lust is a sin?
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it is one of the seven deadly sins, agreed. However, does the bible mention these sins anywhere? or are they a fabrication of the vatican?
regardless. lets say for the sake of argument the 7 deadly sins are not only in the bible, but in the new testament.
What should we say about the tremendous numbers of women who seem to make it their primary purpose in life to create lust in the hearts of men?
I am sure it would be a sin for both men and women
They were compiled by Pope Gregory I around the year 600, and you're correct - there is no such term in the Bible. It is purely a Catholic term.
I don't think so. They are all looking for security. Not sure though.
Are you inferring that sin is not in the Bible, or lust?
Did I say that?
No.
I said the term "7 Deadly Sins" is not in the Bible.
How are you sure? If the act of soliciting lust from men is also a sin, then to be consistent you will need to acknowledge the muslim traditions of women’s clothing.
you need to re read what you responded to.
Even sex within marriage is imperfect. Whe Augustine was tortured by his need of women in the Garden of Milan, he was referring to his own wife.
Are you sure Pope Gregory compiled the list? I was under the impression that Augustine had so classified sin a couple of centuries earlier.
As I understand it, the phrase “Capital Sin” is more apt than “deadly sin.” The idea is that all other sins fit into these seven categories. It’s part of a discussion about how sin is a disorder of love. So, for example, envy woud be a failure to love your neighbor enough to be happy for him when he has something you’d like to have.
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