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Limbaugh jumps from KSFO to Clear Channel's 910
San Francisco Peninsula Press Club ^ | 12/25/11

Posted on 12/26/2011 7:52:41 PM PST by Political Junkie Too

Clear Channel is beefing up the lineup on its 910 AM frequency, first by hiring fired KGO hosts Len Tillem and Gene Burns, and now by adding Rush Limbaugh. The new lineup starts Jan. 3. Limbaugh’s move was revealed publicly in a tweet by 910 morning hosts Armstrong & Getty.

There are two schools of thought about why Limbaugh is changing stations. One is that his show is expensive and KSFO’s owner, Cumulus Media, is cutting costs. That’s why they laid off most of the talk hosts at KGO and replaced them with less expensive news staffers. Another theory is that Limbaugh’s syndicator, Premiere Networks, is owned by Clear Channel, and it wanted him to throw his weight behind 910 to help it attract an audience.

Here's the schedule of KKSF 910 (formerly KNEW) starting Jan. 3: Armstrong & Getty 6-9 a.m., Rush 9-noon; Tom Sullivan noon-3; Len Tillem 3-4 and Gene Burns 4-7.


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KEYWORDS: california; clearchannel; geneburns; lentillem; rushlimbaugh; sanfrancisco; thebigchill
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Limbaugh is moving to KNEW KKSF?

I remember when he moved from KNBR to KSFO because he kept getting bumped because of baseball games.

He's moving again? What will this do to "Hot Talk" on KSFO?

-PJ

1 posted on 12/26/2011 7:52:45 PM PST by Political Junkie Too
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To: Political Junkie Too
He's moving again? What will this do to "Hot Talk" on KSFO?

KSFO's sister station KGO is moving away from talk to news, maybe KSFO is doing the same.
2 posted on 12/26/2011 7:56:04 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Political Junkie Too

Is that old windbag still on the air?


3 posted on 12/26/2011 7:59:04 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
I know about that, since Cumulus bought both stations.

However, it would be suicide to try to go to three all-news stations, after KGO's attempt to compete with powerhouse KCBS.

Even KGO is only moving to all-news in the afternoon and evenings only.

-PJ

4 posted on 12/26/2011 7:59:49 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

At least I won’t have to listen to ABC News... I guess Glenn Beck is being taken off 910?


5 posted on 12/26/2011 8:01:07 PM PST by skeeter
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To: skeeter
There is nothing on KSFO's website yet about schedule changes.

-PJ

6 posted on 12/26/2011 8:07:04 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

This is Clear Channel - who owns Premier Radio and the rights to Rush - exercising their rights to move Rush to their own stations. They have had the right to do this for year.

In the past, they had used their own stations for music, etc, and also made money on other stations they did not own by selling them Rush’ show. In other words, they were making money all over every market with music and with Rush.

Now with music failing - they have brought Rush to their own stations all across the country to save those stations. They did it over a year ago in dozens of markets. It is a symptom of the music format dying.


7 posted on 12/26/2011 8:07:14 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: al baby

lol


8 posted on 12/26/2011 8:08:24 PM PST by Roscoe Karns
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To: skeeter

They(KSFO) should never have laid off Melanie morgan. Lee Rodgers was a jerk. Brian Sussman? A whining Bozo. Nuff said.


9 posted on 12/26/2011 8:09:01 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: skeeter

They(KSFO) should never have laid off Melanie morgan. Lee Rodgers was a jerk. Brian Sussman? A whining Bozo. Nuff said.


10 posted on 12/26/2011 8:09:11 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: skeeter

They(KSFO) should never have laid off Melanie morgan. Lee Rodgers was a jerk. Brian Sussman? A whining Bozo. Nuff said.


11 posted on 12/26/2011 8:09:11 PM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: al baby

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt!


12 posted on 12/26/2011 8:10:50 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: al baby

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt!


13 posted on 12/26/2011 8:10:50 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Morgan changed with the management (had to, she was married to 'em). Agree about Lee and Brian is surely a nice guy, but is way too nerdy.

I don't think the station will survive very long in this format without Limbaugh.

14 posted on 12/26/2011 8:12:45 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Political Junkie Too

KKSF isn’t confirming it yet either.

Is this another FReeRepublic scoop?


15 posted on 12/26/2011 8:13:12 PM PST by null and void (Day 1069 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: DIRTYSECRET
They(KSFO) should never have laid off Melanie Morgan.

Her husband, the general manger, laid her off. Go figure...

16 posted on 12/26/2011 8:14:36 PM PST by null and void (Day 1069 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Interesting.

When Farid Suleman was running Citadel, he seemed to make it his mission to destroy AM conservative talk radio by ousting long-time local hosts and time-delaying national shows in order to break the live participatory experience of talk radio.

Suleman fired Melanie Morgan from KSFO, and a few years later he fired Lee Rodgers, even though KSFO was a money-maker station for his network.

Brian Sussman was elevated to morning host to replace Rodgers, but in my opinion he hasn't filled the big shoes he followed. Sussman brought back the call-in aspect which Rodgers detested, and Sussman has carved out a niche for himself with his prior meteorology experience to challenge global climate change fanatics.

However, I find him a bit weak and over the top when he fills in for Mark Levin in the evenings. I actually found KMJ's Inga Barks to be a more appealing afternoon host in Levin's absence.

I'm anxious to see what's next for KSFO in the post-Limbaugh era.

-PJ

17 posted on 12/26/2011 8:17:20 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

I’m happy as long as LRon Paul doesn’t get a talk show.


18 posted on 12/26/2011 8:17:53 PM PST by LyinLibs (All moslems are somewhere on the killing-you spectrum)
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To: Political Junkie Too
The "local" CC talk station dumped Limbaugh a few years ago. They would bump him for minor league games, among other things.

The more local station bumps Limbaugh for women's college B-ball, as well as men's and college hockey, too. I really hate those tournaments...

19 posted on 12/26/2011 8:18:51 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: null and void
Is this another FReeRepublic scoop?

San Francisco Peninsula Press Club, via a tweet from Armstrong and Getty (910). In the article.

-PJ

20 posted on 12/26/2011 8:19:29 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

The AM station in Raleigh Durham that lost Limbaugh is really in the dumper.
I suspect that is true of a lot of them.


21 posted on 12/26/2011 8:19:50 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Calvin Locke
At least Limbaugh was getting bumped for the Giants.

-PJ

22 posted on 12/26/2011 8:20:37 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
I was amazed to learn that Lee was 'phoning in' his morning show from Arizona for years. They let him go just a few months before he was due to retire - I never did hear a plausible reason why.

Personally, I'd like to see them bring Roger Hedgecock's show back up. He has alot on the ball, IMO.

23 posted on 12/26/2011 8:21:41 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Calvin Locke

A local CC channel would not ‘dump” Limbaugh per se.

CC would make the decision to sell Limbaugh’s show to that stations’ competitor so they could make money on both Limbaugh and their station at the same time.


24 posted on 12/26/2011 8:24:00 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: skeeter
They did a good job of keeping that a secret, although many people knew it for a long time. Jim Eason was doing the same thing from his home in North Carolina during his last years at the station.

Eason got caught up in a feud with station new-commer Michael Savage, who was the local afternoon-drive host. In those days, KSFO had Geoff Metcalf in the noon slot. Metcalf was replaced by Sean Hannity when he started his radio show.

-PJ

25 posted on 12/26/2011 8:31:37 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: skeeter
Rodgers says that Farid Suleman fired him because of his opinions about "Moose-lims."

-PJ

26 posted on 12/26/2011 8:33:17 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Well, it was a AM/FM talk pair. FM went to stereo and music, and they really made a mess of the offering on AM.

I do have to say that I miss the clarity of the FM for the occasional C2CAM broadcast.

27 posted on 12/26/2011 8:35:50 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Political Junkie Too

I forgot to add that Limbaugh gets bumped for the Yankees, too, on the local non-CC station.


28 posted on 12/26/2011 8:40:31 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Calvin Locke

I”m not saying that CC always made good choices, but for years their model was to make money off of Rush’s show on other stations and to make money on their music etc on their own stations. They wanted to make money off almost every station in the market.

Sometimes their strategy was too cute by half - and they made some mistakes. In any case, the dying music format on many CC stations is causing them to turn many of their FM’s into talk stations featuring Rush - so they are yanking the Rush show off of AM stations in the market they were selling that show to.


29 posted on 12/26/2011 8:41:34 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Political Junkie Too

Boy, they machine-gunned practically the whole staff at KGO. Bloodbath. Living in No CA, I primarily listen to KSFO, though I will miss Jon Rothmann ex-KGO 10 pm. The rest of KGO I could care less about, but geeez, that was the biggy station up here and they just fired everybody. Gene Burns, gotta be 20+ years, Rothmann, 15 years, Wattenberg, 30 years. Tillem, probably at least 10 years.

I know that KGO had some expensive hosts, but the bloodbath there surprised me. People in the Bay Area who listen to KGO...libs, mainly, and that is everybody up here...I swear their dials are welded to KGO. Things change very, very slowly in No. CA. (Hippies are still cool up here, that’s how retrograde it is) While I am not an expert or even a strong amateur in radio syndication or programming I believe this will turn out to be a bad move. KGO was probably the biggest station up here and IMO this will scatter their listenership to the four winds. Certainly, competing with KCBS (news, weather, sports, little bit of CBS TV) is a guaranteed loser. Really, I have no conception what KGO is going to do. I think it could take them 3++ years to recover even their recently flagging audience numbers...if they ever do. But as I said, I just listen to the thing, I’m not a radio expert.


30 posted on 12/26/2011 9:04:26 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Gun store gift certificate. An idea whose time has come.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
Gene Burns, gotta be 20+ years, Rothmann, 15 years, Wattenberg, 30 years. Tillem, probably at least 10 years.

Don't forget about Bernie Ward, 7 years at Lompoc.

-PJ

31 posted on 12/26/2011 9:09:46 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: Political Junkie Too; skeeter

That (Rodgers’ opinions) is entirely possible, but Lee was getting pretty danged tired at the end. That he was broadcasting from his home in AZ perhaps made him more comfortable, but he was quite literally “phoning it in” at the end of his tenure at KSFO.

I liked Melanie Morgan in conjunction with Lee Rodgers. I do not believe she could carry a talk show on her own. I can also imagine the three-way host situation with Ofc Vic on their show got to be a major piece of overhead. Once Mel left the show it got very, very dry and crusty, IMO.


32 posted on 12/26/2011 9:09:49 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Gun store gift certificate. An idea whose time has come.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

LOL. I actually enjoyed Bernie Ward, believe it or not. Not always, but in general, he made credible arguments for the lib side.


33 posted on 12/26/2011 9:11:46 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Gun store gift certificate. An idea whose time has come.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder
I agree.

Rodgers had also suffered a severe heart/lung ailment after his last cruise vacation that nearly killed him.

Sussman and Tom Benner seem to have hit a groove, but the show seems more childish and flippant than when Rodgers was running things. Rodgers had a solid stable of regular weekly 20 minuyr interviews with interesting pundits. Susmann still has some of them, mostly new more recent talent, but only for 10 minutes at a time. The rest is yuks with "Officer Vic."

Also, they brought in a new woman, Katie Green. I'm not sure how long she'll be there, as she's still going to college.

-PJ

34 posted on 12/26/2011 9:16:13 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Music radio isn’t really failing, it’s probably the cheapest radio to program. Most CC stations are canned and voice-tracked by jocks in NY or Los Angeles. Then you have filler fluff material from intellectual lightweights like Ryan Seacrest, John Tesh and Leeza Gibbons who cater to the lowest common denominator among us. As well as VH1 Classic Rock Nights, closet libs Bob and Tom and other syndicated music fare.


35 posted on 12/26/2011 9:49:34 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (You have entered an invalid birthday)
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To: al baby
"Is that old windbag still on the air?"

Yes, and he's still vastly more influential than you'll ever be.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

36 posted on 12/26/2011 9:54:43 PM PST by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? http://www.bigdawgmusicmafia.com)
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To: Political Junkie Too

I like Katie just fine. She announces and does news/fill-ins for Vic, for the most part, and for that she is just fine IMO. Peppy voice.

Sussman, I go hot and cold on. I appreciate that he is hard working and I generally agree with him, but there are lots of times when I just find him so full of himself I have to shut him off. He’s competent, not especially dazzling. If you recall, when Lee Rodgers was sick and later easing out, Sussman often did double shifts, talking 8+ hours a day. That takes some endurance, I’m sure.


37 posted on 12/26/2011 10:05:04 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Gun store gift certificate. An idea whose time has come.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Heard Bill Wattenburg was hired by a station in Santa Cruz.


38 posted on 12/26/2011 10:51:26 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Political Junkie Too
It surprised me that Rogers lived in AZ. but it answered a mystery.

One of the very few times I heard Rogers really lose his temper was when OV made a comment about Rogers' "cheesy career."

Talk had switched to OV's traffic report and cheese had been the subject of conversation -- OV often connected the two segments with (sometimes) hilarious comments. No big deal I thought.

Rogers exploded saying that he (OV) didn't have the guts to say that to his face. I don't recall that OV responded. Rogers was not kidding. He was pissed.

I thought, what the hell is Rogers talking about, OV is either sitting there or well within reach. Well he wasn't.

After a short boycott of KSFO after Rogers was dropped I started back with the morning show. I had always caught Sussman's evening show.

Well within a few days Sussman took a call from a regular who describes himself as a Communist or Marxist. Sussman started in on the guy telling how he (Sussman) was going to beat his ass. Borrrrring.

Been going on for years -- so do it already. At one time the guy suggested that they rent a place to fight and the proceeds would go to charity.

That was the last time I listened to the morning show.

39 posted on 12/26/2011 11:03:46 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Political Junkie Too

I greatly prefer Brian Sussman over Lee Rodgers. Rodgers had a pervy edge to him that I found highly distasteful. He could take a story about pavement and make it something perverted...yuck.

I guess we’ll all see what happens here. If Brian S does well, I’ll be happy.


40 posted on 12/26/2011 11:21:09 PM PST by KJC1
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To: Political Junkie Too

Weird. Doesn’t make sense to me but I don’t own KSFO.

Who comes on after Brian then?


41 posted on 12/27/2011 12:18:42 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Wow !! This is a shocker. That is a lot of change at KGO. I like Armstrong and Getty (or I used to at least, I haven’t listened to them for a couple of years). It will be cool to have them and Limbaugh on the same station. My only objection is that the KNEW signal seems to be rather weak at times. I sometimes cannot pick them up very well in the East Bay - and for some reason the station vanishes completely when the sun sets - and I have trouble picking it up again until the sun rises the next morning (at least this is the way it was a few years ago, when I listened more often). With all of these changes, I hope it will also include a boost to KNEW’s signal strength.


42 posted on 12/27/2011 12:19:41 AM PST by Zetman
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To: Political Junkie Too

I don’t see a change reflected in the scheduling for either channel.


43 posted on 12/27/2011 12:20:13 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Political Junkie Too

I get it. Change doesn’t take place until January 3rd so on reason to announce.


44 posted on 12/27/2011 12:21:10 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: al baby
Is that old windbag still on the air?

Yep. And doing more for conservatism with each opening monologue than al baby can hope to do.

45 posted on 12/27/2011 12:31:30 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: Political Junkie Too

Last time I heard 910 it was KEWB.

“Channel 91 -Color Radio”. was their tag.

KSFO Had their “The sound of the music...” Station I D.


46 posted on 12/27/2011 12:38:53 AM PST by alpo
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To: SpaceBar
At least somebody (hopefully) picked up Wattenburg. If it's the Santa Cruz station it's probably 1080. They have Limbaugh in the morning, but have the psychotic loon Prison Plant King Alex Jones on in the evening. ?!?!?!? At least it's a good strong signal for the Monterey Bay area.
47 posted on 12/27/2011 12:54:11 AM PST by muleskinner
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To: Zetman
I can't listen to Sussman anymore, even with OV,the show is just dumb and boring. I swear Sussman goes to FR and uses the topic list for his own show. A Hannity clone wanna-be, but never will.

I like Armstrong and Getty very much. They are very good from 6 to 9, then sort of drift around in the final hour, so giving them 3 hours - well, that's just fine. (thanks Mitt)

910 comes in O.K. during the day 'til just before sunset, around 4:45, then reduces power. It's harder to pick up until a few hours after sunset. I hope they keep John Gibson.

48 posted on 12/27/2011 1:11:08 AM PST by muleskinner
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Music is failing from a sales standpoint. Yes, it’s cheap to program relatively but getting killed by iPods and so on. Fewer folks are looking to radio for their music.

The reason CC exercised their right to program Rush on their own stations was their failing music formats. That’s the reason Rush has moved from a lot of traditional talk AM stations in the past year to formerly music FMs in the same market. There are no doubt exceptions to this, but this is the general trend line.


49 posted on 12/27/2011 1:16:50 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Political Junkie Too

There seems to be a big shift on. Two stations here in NYC have replaced more conservative hosts - Steve Malzberg and Joe Crummi - with former Governor David Patterson and Geraldo Rivera. This leaves Rush and Sean Hannity on one station and causing a light to shine on Fox Radio (970 AM).


50 posted on 12/27/2011 2:47:42 AM PST by AdaGray
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