Posted on 12/28/2011 12:36:41 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
Perry's lawyers said a preliminary injunction was necessary since the deadline to print ballots in Virginia will be in two to three weeks.
“In the absence of a preliminary injunction, plaintiff will suffer irreparable harm,” per filing.
The case is Perry v. Judd, 3:11-cv-856, U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Virginia in Richmond.
Hmmm.. I was not thinking "of Presidents"
VA is just to close to D.C. No doubt the R Committee people are “insiders”. Paul and Romney. Can you imagine if all the Perry Gingrich Bachmann Santorium Huntsman people said OHN I’m staying home.
How were Romney and Paul treated more favorably by the VA GOP?
1. Romney and Paul submitted enough signatures over 10k that the VA GOP let their petitions through without verifying any signatures.
2. Perry and Gingrich submitted well over the required 10k but less than 15k. So the VA GOP decided to verify every single signature - something they apparently have never done before - by comparing the addresses on the petitions to those in the electronic voter registration database.
My thoughts exactly :-)
You think the people of VA are happy that Romney and Paul didn’t have their signatures looked at, at all?
Is that just talk or is it fact that they got on because they were on the 2008 ballot? I haven’t seen anything concrete one way or the other but then I’ve not searched that hard for it either.
Are you really that dense?
Supporters of states’ rights always caveat that with “as long as it does not violate the Constitution of the United States”.
Unfortunately, most of the federal government/laws has simply been created for political expediency instead of for actual Constitutional duties. And that part of the Federal government is exactly what the supporters of states’ rights what to see removed.
By even asking this question, you are implying that those who support states’ rights do not believe in even having a Federal government unless it can be overturned by any state. And we tried that... it was called the Articles of Confederation.
Did Perry use non residents of the Virginia districts in collecting his signatures? It was recommended they turn in 15,000+ statewide and 600+ in each CD. Perry again didn’t follow the recommendation. Had he done so and used local residents then he maybe on the ballot. Do you know if any of the above is accurate?
It doesn’t matter if the signatures are valid or not... as the VAGOP regulations stipulate that signatures are only to be checked for local and state elections, not for national offices.
That was the case for Paul and Romney for the 2012 election and all the candidates for all national elections as far back as 1996 (I haven’t bothered to look farther than that).
As that is the regulation and the precedent, then Newt and Perry’s signatures are to be treated the same way. Equal treatment under law, as according to the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution.
Which means, under VAGOP regulations, they qualified and must be on the ballot.
I’d recommend the VAGOP get their head out of their @ss and rewrite their eligibility requirements for the next election, though.
(that, and it’s nice to see these ‘rules-are-rules’ jerkwads hoisted on their own petards)
break out of clone mode and get a brain...Newt and Perry were screwed
This has nothing to do with “States’ Rights” unless of course you consider the VA Republican Party a state.
Good for Rick Perry.
Something is fishy about this fiasco.
His VA supporters have a right to vote for him and any other “disqualified” candidate in the primary.
GOP thinks they can take away that right? I don’t think so.
“He’s petitioning the Virginia state courts.”
And when he loses in th state court, will Perry appeal to a federal court and ask that court to intervene in a state election issue?
“This has nothing to do with “States’ Rights” unless of course you consider the VA Republican Party a state.”
Ok, I see, Rick Perry is suing a private organization for violating the 1st and 14th Admendments.
It sure will be interesting to see Rick Perry’s lawyer explain to the court which part of the US Constitution compels a private organization, such as the VA GOP, to grant constitutional rights to people.
“break out of clone mode and get a brain...Newt and Perry were screwed”
How were they screwed if all candidates knew the rules and some candidates failed to follow the rules, while other candidates were able to follow the rules and meet the requirements?
A state, as long as it does not violate the Constitution of legislative acts, has the right to establish voting standards within its borders. So therefore, states can require a picture ID to vote and a state and a party can set rules as to how candidates names are placed on a Primary ballot.
I think it is important that the courts, dominated by Judicial Activists, not interfer in the election process of the states.
Statement by the RPV today clears up some things:
“From the earliest days of the campaigns, RPV has actively told candidates that Virginia’s signature requirements could be a difficult legal requirement to meet for those who were new to Virginia politics.
In October 2011, RPV formally adopted the certification procedures that were applied on December 23: any candidate who submitted over 15,000 facially-valid signatures would be presumed to be in compliance with Virginia’s 10,000 signature law... Candidates were officially informed of the 15,000 rule in October 2011, well in advance of the Dec. 22 submission deadline. The rule was no surprise to any candidate – and indeed, no candidate or campaign offered any complaints until after the Dec. 23 validation process had concluded.
Despite this early notice and RPV’s exhortations to candidates, only one candidate availed himself of the 15,000 signature threshold – Governor Mitt Romney. RPV counted Governor Romney’s signatures, reviewed them for facial validity, and determined he submitted well over 15,000. Never in the party’s history has a candidate who submitted more than 15,000 signatures had 33 percent invalidated. The party is confident that Governor Romney met the statutory threshold.
Rep. Ron Paul submitted just under 15,000, and was submitted to signature-by-signature scrutiny on the same basis as the other candidates who submitted fewer than 15,000 signatures. After more than 7 hours of work, RPV determined that Rep. Paul had cleared the statutory 10,000/400 signature standard with ease.
Two other candidates did not come close to the 10,000 valid signature threshold. RPV regrets that Speaker Gingrich and Governor Perry did not meet the legal requirements established by the General Assembly. Indeed, our hope was to have a full Republican field on the ballot for Republican voters to consider on March 6.”
http://bearingdrift.com/2011/12/28/rpv-issues-statement-on-petition-certification/
If I were the Va. GOP I would be bending over backwards to get the other candidates on the ballot because if it comes down to Mitt vs. Paul, I think Paul is going to win.
Yes, I believe he used non-residents. I believe all of that was accurate. However, I had heard that the SCOTUS ruled previously on signature collection by residents, but I haven’t looked into it.
Not at all. This is a National Election and everyone in the United States are effected by Virginia’s GOP Election Officials elimination of at least two popular candidates.
What if another state decided only Romney qualifies in their state?
What if Texas GOP Election Officials decide only Perry is qualified to be on the Republican Primary Ticket?
It effects everyone and the rules are silly if the qualifying that is suppose to eliminate candidates that have no support and allow candidates that have National Support yet does the opposite.
If it were a State Election of a State Representative, then it would a different matter but not a National Election of the United States President.
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