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HHS Says “Units” Over 70 Will Receive “Comfort Care” Instead Of Actual Neurological Care
Somewhat Reasonable ^ | December 29, 2011 | Kendall Antekeier

Posted on 12/30/2011 7:31:33 AM PST by NYer

Those who have implied that the President’s health care law will establish “death panels,” have encountered excessive criticism. Yet, more and more information is being released identifying that rationing of care will in fact occur, and that it will be done by government bureaucracies.

For example, a phone call into The Mark Levin Show on WLS 890 from a Chicago neurosurgeon last month revealed that a Health and Human Services (HHS) document, associated with the Obama Administration’s federal health law, will inhibit patients over the age of 70 from receiving neurological care. Instead of receiving “advanced neurosurgical care,” “units,” (meaning patients), over 70 will receive care to make them “comfortable.” In order to provide the neurosurgical care, a physician would have to appeal to a “ethics committee” made up of administrators, not physicians, to determine if the services can be administered.

This document, not surprisingly, has not been presented to the public.

Listen to the call by clicking the link below:

Obamacare Rationing – A Phone Call From A Neurosurgeon


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: bhohealthcare; corruption; deathpanels; democrats; fraud; govtabuse; hhs; liberalfascism; moralabsolutes; obama; obamacare; prolife; socialisthealthcare
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To: NYer

WE knew this was coming.Wait until all of those kids who wanted this stand in the neonatal unit while they are told that since their first born is only a 23 week premie that they should just hold them until they pass....It will happen.In a lot of the world they don’t bother with anything prior to 24 weeks because it is too expensive.


41 posted on 12/30/2011 9:48:47 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Gen.Blather

“Are you telling me that if we go to Obamacare that everybody’s parents will most likely die when the first treatable illness hits?”

Yep, plus it is a fix for social securities ills. Its a two-fer....


42 posted on 12/30/2011 10:07:51 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: NYer

“Comfort Care Panel” not “Death Panel”. You’re just as dead, but it sounds friendlier.


43 posted on 12/30/2011 10:18:55 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: NYer; wagglebee; little jeremiah; Alamo-Girl
Huh, Francis Schaeffer predicted this in the 80s in Whatever Happened To The Human Race ?

I guess this leaves Obaama, Cass Sunstein, and Dawkins (now that Hitchens has bit the big one) as "acceptable sapient units".

Cheers!

44 posted on 12/30/2011 10:24:37 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: NYer
Of course, there will be immediate waivers granted to any highly connected person who needs this type of care.

What do I mean?

A direct blood relative of a politician is one such class. After the medical system needs access to our taxes don't they?

A direct blood relative of a media figure is another such class. After all the medical system needs a positive image doesn't it?

A direct blood relative of one of the “1%” is another such class. After all the medical system needs extra money to lobby Congress doesn't it?

Will some reader, lurker, poster please tell me what the differences between our future medical world and feudalism as practiced in Europa circa 1200 AD?

45 posted on 12/30/2011 11:23:59 AM PST by Nip (TANSTAAFL and BOHICA)
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To: NYer

The folks at DHS are busting their asses 24/7 to get all this implemented. I suspect there will be many surprises (like the document mentioned in this article) when the magic unveiling day comes. Get ready. Bend over!

Let us hope the SCOTUS acts like adults come Spring.


46 posted on 12/30/2011 11:48:40 AM PST by upchuck (Let's have the Revolution NOW before we get dumbed down to the point that we can't.)
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To: GreyFriar

If this abomination isn’t true now, it soon will be.


47 posted on 12/30/2011 12:02:36 PM PST by zot
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To: Gen.Blather
We just had a great Christmas. I can’t tell you how grateful I am to have her still in my life.

Thank you for sharing your grandmother's story with us. Looks like you come from a strong gene pool; hopefully you inherited from her side of the family.

God bless you grandmother and may she and all your family be blessed with a Healthy and Happy New Year!

48 posted on 12/30/2011 1:09:44 PM PST by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer

I thought people became “units” at age 65 when this first came out. I just want to find out how many years I have left before unit-hood.


49 posted on 12/30/2011 4:33:10 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Proud2BeRight; Texas Fossil; NYer

So which is it? Was the doc legit or not? And there was a nurse right after the doc basically confirming what he said. Was she legit or not as well? (I can’t do pdf right now.)


50 posted on 12/30/2011 4:40:06 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: little jeremiah

In my opinion the Dr. was legit. Here is the audio of the phone conversation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=VNHWeTEvGU4

This clip does not mention the nurse.

You make up your own mind, but mine is made up. It is legit, if it were not, by now there would be huge retractions on the subject. There have been none.


51 posted on 12/30/2011 5:14:32 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: little jeremiah

And here is the opposing view:

http://thehealthcareblog.com/blog/2011/12/30/2011s-last-viral-lie-about-health-reform/#more-35994

Bear in mind: the author is “Linda Bergthold and is a health policy consultant and a blogger for the Huffington Post. She has over twenty-five years of experience in health care and was a working group leader in Hillary Clinton’s Health Care Reform Task Force in 1993. She has been an advocate of health care reform for two decades in California and nationally.”


52 posted on 12/30/2011 5:54:40 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: NYer; verga; thesaleboat; Sick of Lefties; Chainmail; StrongandPround; lilyramone; ...
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53 posted on 12/30/2011 6:01:23 PM PST by narses
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To: ScottinVA

‘“Units.”

So, we’re reduced to that. We really are heading down the inexorable path to communism, aren’t we?’

Unfortunately, the answer seems to be “yes.” And it’s nearly more tragic, aside from the coming loss of life and liberty, that it will committed by the chicken-hearted. They’re seemingly collectively (appropriate word, no?) afraid of admitting their evil, other than in the dark of the night they strive to create for us all. Not just evil, but lily-livered evil. Weasels.


54 posted on 12/30/2011 6:48:23 PM PST by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est (And the Word was made flesh))
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To: NYer
This I have seen up close. I have MS and can NOT buy reasonably affordable health care, nor do I have Obama care under the "preexisting conditions as promised the day OC was voted in effect.

He lied and death panels and death rules ARE in effect right now for folks like me. Believe it, it is all too real.
55 posted on 12/31/2011 1:10:47 AM PST by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: JSteff

I believe it. You only have to google it and look through the links....
http://www.google.com/search?q=Obama+who+said+sometimes+you+just+have+to+give+Grandman+a+pain+pill+and+let+her+go+home+and+die%3F+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a


56 posted on 12/31/2011 1:26:57 AM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: JSteff

BTW... God bless you friend. Prayers for you.


57 posted on 12/31/2011 1:27:41 AM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: JSteff
Oh, and MR. obama, if I am wrong, prove me to be a liar.
Give me obama care NOW! Go ahead make me the fool, order health are for me now. Pay off the over $35K in med bills from my last trip to the hospital last year. Pay off my med bills and medication I have payed over the last year.. $3000 a month paid out of pocket or with donations.

mr. obama, prove me wrong today! Do it publicly and make me look like a fool and a liar.
Right now I need to be back in the hospital as I am going through an MS attack and am getting worse by the day... so force me to have ANY type of health care as you promised over a year ago. YOU PROMISED, THE VIDEO IS ON YOU TUBE!
58 posted on 12/31/2011 1:27:57 AM PST by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: NYer; Noumenon

How long does it usually take a monsterous regime to go from “dehumanizing people” to disposing of “unwanted units”


59 posted on 12/31/2011 2:06:40 AM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks NYer.


60 posted on 12/31/2011 7:47:39 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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