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Posted on 01/05/2012 9:16:42 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
At least one well-known conservative has begun speaking out-loud the notion that an Obama re-election might not be the very worst thing that could happen, either to the nation or to Republicans—even to REAL Republicans–that is, conservatives, members of the Party base whose mistrust of Obama is nearly equaled by their mistrust of Mitt Romney and the 2008 ‘Ghost of Romney past’, John McCain.
The best-selling author of “Looking out for Number One” and “Restoring the American Dream”, Robert Ringer has been a Libertarian/conservative for decades.
And given 5 decades of Libertarian leanings, his support of Ron Paul should surprise no one.
But just prior to the Iowa Caucus, Ringer decided that should Ron Paul run the independent, third party campaign many so fear him capable of “and it resulted in Obama’s re-election, [Ringer] would be fine with that if it keeps Romney from taking the reins of power and feeding us small doses of socialism day in and day out.” (1)
He argues that as Obama’s 2008 election gave rise to the Tea Party movement, a repeat performance in 2012 could only re-invigorate that early, contagious Tea Party spirit which Ringer has found wanting over the past year.
“Early on, I said that I preferred Obama over McCain because his Marxist agenda would finally wake up millions of apathetic Americans,” Ringer recalls of his 2008 position. (1)
“Unfortunately, the Tea Party has not kept the heat on either Obama or Congress. But if Obama is re-elected, maybe Tea Partiers will be jolted into rising up in earnest — 365 days a year — and will get serious about taking back America,” he continues. (1)
Well there is little question that Romney is hardly more than a younger version of John McCain...
(Excerpt) Read more at coachisright.com ...
As it stands, 2012 elections will not be “fair” in that conservatives will be savaged by the media 24/7. Free? At this date, no restrictions on conservatives voting is in the offing but lots of dead, illegal and duplicate votes will dilute conservative impact. If O wins again and progressives maintain a strangle hold on congress, free and fair elections here will be a thing of the past.
A RINO will do a whole lot more damage. If the GOP establishment puts yet another RINO on the ticket, I will be voting R down ticket and for someone, anyone, who is a conservative at the top. Even if it means not voting for Romney or writing in a candidate.
On the issues that concern me, there is not much difference between Romney and Obama.
Until the GOP party learns that you need a conservative to fire up the base, the GOP will continue to lose elections.
If Obama wins a second term he will not last to the end—He will do a Nixon and be forced to resign. The scandals are just now starting to come out.
He will be proven to be the most corrupt since US Grant. Only the MSM have kept him in power this long. just wait til he turns on them.
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It has the same effect. I cannot more strongly disagree that a "RINO" would be more damaging than four more years of Obozo. But, you go ahead and vote your "conscience" (or lack thereof). Four more years of Obozo will be what you vote for.
Don’t confuse the gibberish of Ron Paul with mainstream Libertarians. The doctrinare crowd is a pain in ass but it is not the majority .
Libertarians default setting is for liberty not control of everybodies daily life into the most minute detail . Or in simple English IT IS PREFERRED THAT THEY ARE IN THE TENT PISSING OUT ,RATHER THAN OUTSIDE THE TENT PISSING INTO IT.
I have friends with Masters Degrees who understand that we are in a struggle for the very survival of the Republic who cannot grasp the aforementioned concept . Let alone the idea that govt. will not respect the Constitution when it comes to dealing with those who are not with the program so to speak.
Really?
The last Libertarian party platform that I can find spelled out in clear English and detail is the 2004 platform, you agreed with it?
Excellent post, thank you
Yeah yeah yeah. Same old GOP mantra that if you don’t vote for the Rino, you are voting for the opposition. Sorry, not buying that anymore. That attitude got us “me to” RINO McCain and lost the 2008 election. You can’t win elections without your base. Trying to gain moderates and the expense of the base if foolish.
Four years of Obama being opposed and fought by a principled Congress is better than a Rino president who is supported by Congress because the party has to support the party.
I am tired of RINOs and will continue to vote my conscience.
You err in several points
1) Romeney care was the blue print for Obamacare. If you think Romney is going to reverse Obamacare, you are being fooled.
2) Romney will not protect our freedoms. Case in point, Romney (and others) support of the individual mandate.
3) Obama is not the enemy. Obama is mearly a soldier fighting on behalf of socialism. That is the true enemey. The belief that individual must give up their liberties to the state who controls their lives.
Romney is not noticably different on issues that I am concerned about. Case in point, what is the difference between Romneycare and Obamacare. Not enough for me to tell the difference.
“doug is a lying MF’er... only a republican would want obama reelected... NO CONSERVATIVE would ever want obama reelected... but republicans are NOT Conservative.
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Didn’t click on Coach is Right and read the whole piece, did you, LibLieSlayer?
LLS
First... there are Libertarians and there are Conservatives... they are not and can never be one in the same. That is one problem that we have... everyone from fags to communists to socialists to libertarians and progressives have tried to steal our ideology label. Rush spoke at length today on this subject.
There is NO VICTORY IN ANY DEFEAT... anyone selling defeat as Victory is a turncoat and traitor... and a Libertarian is a libertarian... and not a conservative. Sometimes I think there are only a few hundred of us Conservatives left in America today.
LLS
Romney has indicated that he will not implement Obamacare. He has not repudiated Romneycare because he does not want to denigrate his record as governor. Romney is an honorable man so I take his word that he will not implement Obamacare. The individual mandate was touted in past Republican health care reform legislation so Romney is not alone in having a mandate in the MA plan.
The danger with Romney is his possible weakness to work with the rats. Bush’s greatest weakness was his idiotic idea that he could work with the rats.
Obama is no mere soldier. He is the leader of the enemy forces. A prominent method to fight a battle is to target the officers. Beating Obama will leave the left in disarray.
So, you are okay with sleeping with Obama. We will agree to disagree on this. I will vote against Obama. I’m viscerally against R-U-N Paul’s bid for the nomination. But, if he wins the nomination he has my vote. I will vote for the GOP nominee. Period. You may go lie down with Obama, and get up with fleas, if that is your choice.
No, I’m not ok with sleeping with the RINOs that ARE sleeping with Obama. A prostitute is a prostitute when she sells her body. Obama is selling for $100 and RINOs are selling for $1. I don’t want to sell my principles because I have seen that “me too” does not win elections.
If the GOP runs another Dem lite candidate, they will lose again - period.
What are you saying?
Are you saying that the man responsible of Masscare would somehow repudiate and repeal Obamacare, even though it was BASED COMPLETELY on Masscare?
The states are laboratories of democracy, and Masscare failed in the lab. Romney, however, can’t admit that for some reason and you think that somehow he’ll get the job and not waffle down on Obamacare with, “We don’t need to throw the baby out with the bath, we just need to fix the parts that don’t work.”?
I think its naive to think he’s not going to want to just grab the Oval Office, hire people to stiff arm base conservatives, and go back to work with the status quo in DC as if nothing there is permanently and irreparably broken.
Ron Paul will not run third party. His son has aspirations in the GOP that would vaporize if his father runs under the “BatSh!tCrazy” Party banner.
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