Posted on 01/20/2012 10:57:39 AM PST by GregNH
They’re going to have to work fast to do that ... and a new forgery better be bullet-proof. Any discrepancy between a new one and what he already released is going to sink his ship faster than the Costa Concordia.
Showing his real birth certificate will NOT get him around his father’s British Nationality and his own. There is NO WAY around Minor v. Happersett OR McCarthy v Briscoe 429 US 1317.
What's coming is straight out of the Weather Underground playbook. Race war as a path to absolute power.
Start watching Hillary. What's coming down now is is exactly what was supposed to have happened in the 2008 election.
Zippo was never supposed to be in the WH, Hillary was.
Plus, he’s being summoned as a presidential candidate. He’s not going to be immune from anything directly related to running for office.
He could be wanting to appear with his documents so there will be press and everybody’s hopes are up and then he’ll present what HI actually DID send him - a much better forgery, and bearing legal certification. The judge will see it, think it’s real, declare him eligible to be on the ballot, and then Obama will bomb France so nobody will pay attention to the Cold Case Posse’s report when it comes out demanding the microfilms, etc.
Just like the Trump build-up.
Maybe I’m too old and cynical now, but this is what I fear.
That little thing called The Constitution in the way?
Is Obama or some OBot ready to cross the Rubicon?
Is some Obama-Bot(s) ready to proffer a forgery in court?
Is someone dumb enough to take that chance for Obama?
I bet Obama thinks someone will always cover his behind as usual.
I know that Hatfield has cited Minor v Happersett, so I am assuming he is going from THAT direction as well.
Obama CANNOT prove Minor incorrect, and a state Judge isn’t going to overturn Minor either.
YES!
At this point, it looks ridiculously bad for Obama in Georgia, looks like Newt has won his first state in the 2012 POTUS race!
I understand your pessimism, but at this point, it looks like the plaintiffs are going to get a chance to make their case and they WOULD have a chance to challenge anything Obama brings to court. I think he’s going to chicken out though. He doesn’t have anything that can pass muster, and he can’t risk a conclusive judgement in court that he’s not Constitutionally eligible for office. It would set off a whole chain of dominoes that Obama don’t wanta play. If he blows this off, he can give up on a default judgment, laugh it off to the press and move onto the next state and try to avoid any further challenges. It is NOT in his best interest to go to court. It’s the same reason people plead the fifth amendment, plead no contest or choose not to testify in court.
If he does show and doesn't bring the other stuff, he is still subject to a default judgment.
Showing and not bringing the other stuff would be a violation of the order.
Yep! Bill Clinton was compelled by SCOTUS to testify. SCOTUS created legal precedent that a sitting POTUS must comply in Civil Suits and has no immunity.
WOOO HOOOOOOO! Thanks Bill! (Never thought I would say that once let alone twice!)
Your excitement is contagious ‘cause I’m feeling better than I have in months!!!
The real coup will happen if they can get the HI DOH to comply with the subpoena they received. If that happens, Obama is toast.
HUmmmmmmmm..... wonder why??? Curious kettehs want to know.
OK. So why hasn’t Obama filed a motion for a protective order against the Notice to Produce? It makes little sense for him to be fighting against a subpoena to appear but not to fight against the Notice to Produce. FReepers know that that shopping list on the Notice to Produce is blockbuster stuff.
Jerry Corsi’s source said they had a forgery in their office before Obama released this PDF. In fact, IIRC, the forgery was placed in their files right around the same time that some of us were talking about Abercrombie talking up Obama’s BC to prepare for the unveiling of a forgery. But then he had to back down and actually ended up spilling the beans that they don’t have a BC for Obama - I believe because HDOH Director Neal Palafox wouldn’t go along with the plan and because there was talk right here about making state eligibility bills that would require the vital records to be audited - with computer transaction logs, etc. And the Cold Case Posse is talking about microfilms, according to WND.
Shoot. I need to go. There are some discrepancies they’ll have problems with. But some of the discrepancies they will claim are artifacts from the so-called “scan” of the document. I think they are figuring it would be better to present a document from Obama himself rather than risk the HDOH actually having to obey an eventual subpoena for the records to audit what they’ve done with his vital records. They may think they can have a convincing enough fake that the judge won’t ask for an audit.
Or they could already have it arranged that the judge won’t ask for an audit.
I’m still saying what I was saying at this time a year ago: the only way we’re gonna know anything is by auditing the computer transaction logs, and I would also add the original paper documents and the microfilms.
This judge REALLY, really needs to realize how crooked the HDOH is and that just because they certify something does NOT mean it is genuine. They have falsified records on Obama’s behalf at least once and they will easily do it again.
Aagh. I’m gonna be late.
Yes they are brainstorming big time at the FogBow. They are speculating how the White House Council and Jablonski’s conversation went after he phoned Washington of the bad news. Also they are speculating a team of White House lawyers are on their way to Georgia to ‘light a fire’ under Jablonski’s butt.
Here is the thread where it is all being discussed.
http://www.thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=88&t=6845&start=2450
If he’s not on the ballot in more than one state, look for him to withdraw due to health reasons.
Butter, part of Hatfield’s case cites to Minor v Happersett. Minor - in the holding - defines a Natural Born Citizen and Obama’s COLB CANNOT prove his dad was an American Citizen. His dad was British, and so is Obama. Minor is what will nail Obama, NOT his Hawaiian birth Certificates. he might get slapped for forgery, but that will come AFTER the cretin loses any federal immunity he has.
Minor v. Happersett is what MUST be focused on, it is that law which slaps the cuffs on Obama.
I am getting a little afraid this is going to be an "accepted as normal" issue, regardless of the Constitution.
I am not a big Santorum fan but my jaw dropped during last night's debates when I heard him talk (not verbatim)about his 7 year old father in the arms of his grandfather arriving in the country as Italian immigrants.
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