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Posted on 01/22/2012 4:54:42 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
Idiotic.
A rapidly growing population mostly made up of the very young is the demographic model of third world hell holes - while a replacement rate of reproduction is the model of a healthy Western Republic - and a declining population rate is the hallmark of a moribund socialist state.
A declining population rate is hardly a grave threat to humanity, never has been in the history of humanity - we have always been able to generate the necessary population to cover any available food source.
The greatest threat to any human population has always been, and will continue to be, other human populations.
This is typical of most species - the #1 competition they face for resources, territory, mates, or anything else worth having will almost always be from members of their own species.
“The road to hell is paved with good intentions”.
Face palm ( slap!) Honestly, don't you know the meaning of this common expression? It is **not** referring to the person with the good intentions going to literal hell.
“The road to hell is paved with good intentions”. Usually, this means hell on earth for the masses of humanity. This earthly hellish existence is often created for the masses by Useful Idiots and those with good intentions.
Really? Your interpretation is the only one I have ever seen that did not refer to the person with good intentions (apart from the earliest uses of the phrase before they added "the road" but the meaning was still the same). But then I suppose I am just a product of the godless public school system, so what do I know? ;-)
Please tell us when in the history of humanity a declining population rate has even occurred? Globally, not locally. It has not happened in recorded history.
The Black Plague in Europe? It took a century for mankind to recover economically/socially from that population collapse alone.
You don't know what you're talking about here.
....and they are not having abortions...rather mutiple wives to continue to populate the nations they are in, for it is by 'their numbers' they will conquer and infilitrate as they have for centuries.
The USA is inviting the trouble they will suffer as they attempt to accomodate this 'political entity' shrouded in a religious farce, kept there to keep their followers in submission and their coffers full of the revenues to pull off their agenda of the Islamification of our country.
Coupled with the ignorance of our churches who are "hell bent" to include them as they make claims to Christianity, totally ignoring the fact this is indeed part and parcel to their agenda of infiltrating the churches...and it's working.
Even Biblical history reveals that whenever a nation turns it's back on God, (as the USA has been doing in increments for years now), those nations are always invaded by barbarians, and not necessarily identified as so until it's too late. That is where we are now and headed even moreso under this administration who has an open door policy now in place.... Obamas recent visa changes have ended any hope we have of curtailing the invasion of our country.
If the article had posited that a great plague was the greatest threat facing mankind he might have had a better argument.
Thinking humanity will go extinct because people stop reproducing is idiotic.
Massive birth rates with a huge cadre of young people is the model of third world hell holes.
Replacement birth rates is the model of a healthy Republic.
Declining population birth rates are the model of a moribund Socialist nanny state.
Which demographic model do you think best reflects the USA, which Europe, and which Africa?
Now which demographic model do you want us to emulate again?
You obviously didn't read the article in the original post.
The original post -- and subsequent articles posted between #46 and #55 -- deals with the drastic economic, social and military implications (discussed in the books linked in the article) that are already occurring and will occur as a result of declining fertility rates.
Again, you stated
"A declining population rate is hardly a grave threat to humanity, never has been in the history of humanity"
Again, I ask you:
When has there EVER been a willing global declining population rate in the history of humanity?
It is happening right now, but it has never happened in recorded history, so how can you possibly say its not a grave threat?!?
The only thing that is comparable in human history is periodic regional declines due to natural disasters, plagues, war etc.
And the inferences from those declines are that these episodes cause drastic economic, social and military implications for those populations.
On the contrary, economic growth is closely coupled with population growth.
Above replacement birth rates are a necessity for economic growth.
Replacement birth rates lead to economic stagnation.
Below replacement birth rates lead to economic contraction.
Read up on demographics and their effects on economics, then get back to me.
Our nations last great decades long economic boom did not correlate to an increased birth rate, but with lower taxes.
Overall the human population of the Earth is increasing. It is not at all declining.
To think the gravest threat to humanity is declining birth rates is delusional.
There was, is and will be a ready supply of humanity ready to fill in the gap of those populations that decline to reproduce at a replacement rate. More a threat to their particular way of life than a threat to “humanity” - but once again that isn't the argument the author is making.
Nobody is talking about "huge birth rates."
We're simply talking about birth rates over 2.1.
The west, with the exception of the USA and Israel, is well below that number.
The Third World is rapidly approaching it, far more rapidly than the First World did, despite uninformed doomsayers' protestations to the contrary.
Once the global fertility rate is under 2.1, which will likely happen by 2050, populations will begin declining rapidly as the elderly die off, and life expectancy no longer increases.
There was, is and will be a ready supply of humanity ready to fill in the gap of those populations that decline to reproduce at a replacement rate.
Not if global fertility rates don't stop dropping precipitously. Which is the author's point.
More a threat to their particular way of life than a threat to “humanity” - but once again that isn't the argument the author is making.
I really do not think you grasp the argument the author (me) is making.
I AM talking “huge birth rates”, they are not associated with economic growth but with being an economic basket case.
A decline in the huge birth rates of the Third World, to something more rational, is a positive sign, not a sign of impending doom.
For the majority of humanities time on Earth the human population was less than a billion people. From one billion to two billion took more time than from two to three, which took more time than from three billion to four billion, etc, etc.
We are at 7 billion now, and can expect less time to pass before we reach 8 billion than the time it took to go from 6 billion to 7.
You are delusional if you think going down to 6 billion is a more likely scenario or a bigger threat than hitting 8 billion (and growing).
Absolutely delusional.
Piker! I’ve got ten!
God bless you and your herd!
Absolutely delusional.
You obviously haven't read anything in the original post of this thread, or the articles I directed you to in posts 45 - 55.
I have not said anything like you are asserting here. You are setting up straw men, then claiming these straw men are delusional.
I've never claimed "going down to 6 billion is a more likely scenario ... than hitting 8 billion." You are delusional to claim otherwise.
World population might reach 8 billion before it starts contracting. It might hit 9 billion. We're in uncharted waters, so no one knows for certain where the peak will be.
But following that peak, all demographic indications point to a rapid population contraction.
You are delusional if you believe otherwise.
And you are delusional if you think that rapid population contraction will not have dire economic, social and military implications.
If so then I would be worried about what was causing the population contraction - because it wasn't and isn't declining birth rates.
Birth rates are and have been sufficient to grow human population to 5 billion awhile ago, 6 billion for the last few years, and now around 7 billion.
Birth rates will be sufficient to grow human population to 8 billion and climbing.
That is a bigger problem than DECLING birth rates.
If so then I would be worried about what was causing the population contraction - because it wasn't and isn't declining birth rates.
Delusional or not, you certainly haven't been paying any attention to the discussion in this thread.
Fertility rates at or below replacement level will eventually cause decreasing global population numbers as the elderly die off.
Which part of this simple fact don't you grasp?
If so then the collapse seems to be the RESULT of overpopulation - and proposing people increase their birth rate only accelerates the increase to 8 or 9 billion before your proposed population collapse.
Once you admit the population is going to keep increasing from our near 7 billion now to as much as 9 billion - the specter of declining birth rates is about as scary as a Scooby Doo monster with its mask off.
So once again, because you seem to be from Rio Linda....
An increase from 7 billion to 8 billion and climbing is a lot more likely than Earth's population declining to 6 billion or fewer and declining.
Declining birth rates will not cause a catastrophic decline in human population - but overpopulation well might.
Not only is an increasing human population more likely than a declining human population - based upon the evidence - but it is also more troublesome.
I realize you have a religious angle that clouds reality for you - your bias on this subject is apparently insurmountable by reality.
Good luck sounding the drum against population decline amid this rapidly growing human population of Earth.
Do you actually read the stuff you type before you hit "Post"?
Obviously there is just no reasoning with someone who has drunk the "overpopulation" kool aid...
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