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Explosive Jackie O tapes 'reveal how she believed LBJ killed JFK & had affair w/ movie star'
The London Daily Mail ^ | August 8, 2011 | Liz Thomas

Posted on 02/06/2012 5:40:23 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Jackie Onassis believed that Lyndon B Johnson and a cabal of Texas tycoons were involved in the assassination of her husband John F Kennedy, ‘explosive’ recordings are set to reveal. The secret tapes will show that the former first lady felt that her husband’s successor was at the heart of the plot to murder him.

She became convinced that the then vice president, along with businessmen in the South, had orchestrated the Dallas shooting, with gunman Lee Harvey Oswald – long claimed to have been a lone assassin – merely part of a much larger conspiracy.

Texas-born Mr Johnson, who served as the state’s governor and senator, completed Mr Kennedy’s term and went on to be elected president in his own right. The tapes were recorded with leading historian Arthur Schlesinger Jnr within months of the assassination on November 22, 1963, and had been sealed in a vault at the Kennedy Library in Boston.

The then Mrs Kennedy, who went on to marry Greek shipping tycoon Aristotle Onassis, had ordered that they should not be released until 50 years after her death, with some reports suggesting she feared that her revelations might make her family targets for revenge...

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: assassination; jfk; kennedy; lbj
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When was LBJ governor of Texas?
1 posted on 02/06/2012 5:40:33 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t understand this media obsession with the dysfunctional Kennedys, especially the ones who are long gone.


2 posted on 02/06/2012 5:44:24 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m with Jackie on this one.

“Executive Action” 1971


3 posted on 02/06/2012 5:45:46 AM PST by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: fatnotlazy
especially the ones who are long gone.

I guess those were the good ones. It was even more downhill from there.

4 posted on 02/06/2012 5:47:27 AM PST by krb (Obama is a miserable failure.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That sounds like the premise they put forth in “Executive Action”

http://www.amazon.com/Executive-Action-Burt-Lancaster/dp/B00005JMA5/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1328535387&sr=8-1


5 posted on 02/06/2012 5:50:52 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I still believe Fidel Castro ordered the “hit”.


6 posted on 02/06/2012 5:54:29 AM PST by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LBJ was NEVER Governor of Texas.


7 posted on 02/06/2012 5:57:03 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LBJ did have JFK killed. Watch the final chapter of ‘the men who killed kennedy’.


8 posted on 02/06/2012 5:57:35 AM PST by Peter from Rutland
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To: sonofagun

So where does Jack Ruby fit in the theories?


9 posted on 02/06/2012 5:57:40 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, certainly the old media would bring this out to the attention of all Americans. I mean, covering up for JFK, LBJ and the Democrat party would make them accessories, enablers, traitors and cowards. Someday, little kids are going to ask their parents about family members who were in the old media and the parents will say, “We don’t talk about that person anymore.”


10 posted on 02/06/2012 5:58:58 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

https://www.tsl.state.tx.us/ref/abouttx/governors.html


11 posted on 02/06/2012 5:59:19 AM PST by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This writer for the London Daily Mail got a major fact wrong, but it’s not important to the story.

Still...

My only thought as to how she invented an LBJ governorship of Texas is that she failed to properly research, and relied on her own memory or that of someone she knew, and she somehow confused LBJ with his close friend John Connally...not that she didn’t know they were two different men, or thought LBJ was Connally or vice versa, but that she got a piece of the JC Bio mixed in with the Johnson Bio.

Weird.


12 posted on 02/06/2012 6:05:19 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: Peter from Rutland

If you look at it as just another murder and forget he was the president , you need to ask the one question that they always ask.

Who had the most to gain ?

I actually think that Sam Giaconna wanted him dead and had the ability to do it. I think LBJ was a willing participant in the cover up that he benefitted from.


13 posted on 02/06/2012 6:07:51 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: Peter from Rutland

I taped that LBJ episode of The men who killed Kennedy’.when it came out on the History Channel. Then apparently the History Channel left those episodes out of their boxed set. I know you can watch it on YouTube. The evidence is overwhelming, but what clinched it for me is when I heard the actual tapes of LBJ calling and offering “condolences” to Jackie. He is clearly hitting on her, which is just sick. He had an obsessive envy and wanted to become JFK in every way.


14 posted on 02/06/2012 6:09:16 AM PST by Elvina (BHO is doubleplus ungood.)
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To: fatnotlazy

LBJ and his awful wife were the ones who gained the MOST from JFK’s death. I have ALWAYS thought he was behind it, especially since it happened in Texas.


15 posted on 02/06/2012 6:10:55 AM PST by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: fatnotlazy

An intern JFK sexually abused published a tell all biography - so this is a rear guard action to take as much oxygen as possible from that story.


16 posted on 02/06/2012 6:14:52 AM PST by frithguild (Withdraw from the 1967 Treaty on Outer Space. It bans private property and profits.)
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To: G Larry

Do you see that the Kennedys, along with the Eastern Establishment News Media, have always blamed “Texas” because it happened in the state?

Do you see that it wasn’t just one man she blamed, but a “cabal of Texas businessmen”?

According to the story.

To this day there is still a stigma attached to Texas, and also to Dallas.

I don’t appreciate it.

Their views are not rational. They are based on an emotional need to blame someone other than the Communist nutjob who killed JFK.

So let’s blame “Texas” and “Texans”.

I hold no brief for LBJ...couldn’t stand the guy.

But you have to see this is a smear that is much bigger than against a single individual.


17 posted on 02/06/2012 6:15:14 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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18 posted on 02/06/2012 6:17:19 AM PST by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Ann Archy

That’s such great evidence.

Not.

Explain Lee Harvey Oswald, the ex Marine who offed Kennedy, and was a Communist who loved Fidel Castro.


19 posted on 02/06/2012 6:19:43 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: Paladin2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby

Such a convoluted conspiracy - I don’t believe we will ever know the truth.


20 posted on 02/06/2012 6:20:54 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason...... to celebrate life and embrace the future.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Mac Bird!
ML/NJ
21 posted on 02/06/2012 6:21:31 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: Elvina

The video on youtube is now gone too. I just looked for it.


22 posted on 02/06/2012 6:28:45 AM PST by Peter from Rutland
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To: txrangerette
madelaine duncan brown.....

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1929769365635576415#

23 posted on 02/06/2012 6:29:14 AM PST by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: sodpoodle

I was just going through that wiki entry. Just the fact of the Rudy killing does complicate the story and makes it difficult to believe that both Oswald and Rudy acted alone.


24 posted on 02/06/2012 6:31:40 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh, it was LBJ alright, but not Lyndon but Lady Bird!!


25 posted on 02/06/2012 6:32:49 AM PST by eastforker (Don't be ornery for Romney, instead Root for Newt!)
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To: G Larry

I agree. I also suspect LBJ was behind the MLK assassination. Remember, by the time he was assassinated MLKK had become a giant embarrassment and pain in the behind for LBJ. Bumping him off would get him out o the way before news of bias “vigorous sex life” got out to damage LBJ, the civil rights movement, and the DemonRat party. Also the martyrdom could be used to pass the Great Society. IOW he was a far better dead martyr than live cvil rights leader. Then look at James Earl Ray, a petty criminal with no real reason to want to be the subject of a massive man hunt who did an international flight that could only have been set up by somebody else.


26 posted on 02/06/2012 6:33:50 AM PST by libstripper
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What's “explosive” about this latest sewage from the Left?

Rich Democrat politicians have no morals. Zero. Not a new story by any means.

Richard Nixon was an Eagle Scout compared to his two predecessors, brought down only by the FACT that he was a successful Commie hunter during his HUAC days.

27 posted on 02/06/2012 6:38:47 AM PST by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LBJ was lower than pond scum white trash and may well have had a part in the assassination.


28 posted on 02/06/2012 6:43:28 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: wtc911; Ann Archy

You are wasting your time with me.

My entire point is that Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK. He was a Communist who idolized, first, Stalinist Russia, next, Fidel Castro.

Whatever else might be involved, if anything, I don’t know.

But I do not appreciate the Eastern news media and the Eastern richie rich Kennedys always blaming it on Texas, on Dallas, because it happened there.

They don’t like us, and the feeling is mutual, after they smeared an entire city and even an entire state.

And if you will please notice, the article says Jackie blamed LBJ and a Cabal of Texas businessmen.

Another person on this thread chimed in that Mrs. Johnson was “awful” and stood to gain as much as her husband from murdering Kennedy.

The same poster said they always believed it was LBJ and the Mrs., and said the best evidence for that was that “it happened in Texas”.

So spare me.


29 posted on 02/06/2012 6:44:38 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: Peter from Rutland

I have it on VHS tape, but our VCR broke a while ago. One day, I will try to get it converted to DVD. I was shocked that the History Channel had the guts to air it at all, which is why I originally taped it.


30 posted on 02/06/2012 6:46:11 AM PST by Elvina (BHO is doubleplus ungood.)
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To: Paladin2

That would be Jack Ruby, not “Rudy”.


31 posted on 02/06/2012 6:46:11 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: libstripper
Then look at James Earl Ray, a petty criminal with no real reason to want to be the subject of a massive man hunt who did an international flight that could only have been set up by somebody else.

That's what I always thought. A lot of people assume that Ray was arrested immediately after the assassination. That was not the case. Despite the fact that every law enforcement agency in the world was looking for him, he evaded capture for more than two months before he was arrested at the airport in London. That tells me that he had people helping him hide out, and providing him with money and transportation so that he could move around the country, and eventually fly to London. James Earl Ray did not have the resources to do this on his own, and he was not a criminal mastermind by any stretch of the imagination.

32 posted on 02/06/2012 6:48:28 AM PST by GreenHornet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not to say LBJ couldn’t have done it, but what in the world was JFK thinking when he chose LBJ as his VP? Obama was smart enough not to choose Hillary for obvious reasons. We’re talking Democrats and their lust for power, after all.


33 posted on 02/06/2012 6:50:29 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Along with his Cabal of Texas Tycoons.

That’s what the article says.

Yep, let’s blame Texas.

We can’t blame a washed out Marine mental case who loved Communism so much he moved his family to Russia, then returned to America to pass out leaflets promoting Fidel Castro.


34 posted on 02/06/2012 6:51:52 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Uh, before he was VP?

Anyway, this goes to show that the so-chic and much-adulated Jackie was as stupid as the other cows that the Kennedys married.

35 posted on 02/06/2012 6:55:10 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I thouhgt it was just me that couldn’t remember a Gov.LBJ.


36 posted on 02/06/2012 6:55:59 AM PST by Ditter
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To: woodbutcher1963

“I think LBJ was a willing participant in the cover up that he benefitted from.”

That I can believe. I do not believe he had Kennedy killed. Connally was a close friend and was almost killed himself. Connally stated he did not believe the LBJ conspiricy BS.


37 posted on 02/06/2012 6:57:27 AM PST by Rider on the Rain
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To: txrangerette

Oswald did not “move his family to Russia” but defected to the Soviet Union alone, later marrying a co-worker at the factory he was assigned to work in. She was almost certainly his KGB “minder” or else they would never have been allowed to repatriate to the United States together.


38 posted on 02/06/2012 7:02:42 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: txrangerette

No one is blaming Texas but the truth is that LBJ was trash.


39 posted on 02/06/2012 7:05:16 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Mamzelle

No, he was never the governor of Texas. There a link to the list in an earlier post.


40 posted on 02/06/2012 7:05:36 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That is true about Oswald and the family...I just got up and I meant to say he made a family out of moving to Russia.

The point stands he was a Communist and a mental case.

And he did murder, or participated in the murder of, JFK.


41 posted on 02/06/2012 7:09:26 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When was LBJ governor of Texas?

&&&
Hey, c’mon, don’t get all technical on us now. /s


42 posted on 02/06/2012 7:10:47 AM PST by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: Mamzelle

He was never Governor of Texas...he was a Senator from Texas, period.


43 posted on 02/06/2012 7:10:59 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: txrefugee

I think Kennedy, a north easterner, was looking for southern votes when he pick LBJ for VP, it couldn’t be because he liked him.

I read all 3 volumes of Robert Caro’s biography of LBJ. I never had an opinion one way or the other about whether LBJ had Kennedy killed or not. But somewhere during the reading of those books a light came on that told me he was responsible. Caro doesn’t say that but he shows you how desperate LBJ was to be president and how he knew he would never get there unless................ JFK died in office.


44 posted on 02/06/2012 7:11:48 AM PST by Ditter
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Theories and conspiracies abound. .. Cites from Wiki

Lyndon B. Johnson conspiracy

In 2003, researcher Barr McClellan published the book, Blood, Money & Power: How L.B.J. Killed J.F.K.. McClellan claims that Lyndon Johnson, motivated by the fear of being dropped from the Kennedy ticket in 1964 and the need to cover up various scandals, masterminded Kennedy's assassination with the help of his friend attorney Edwardo Clark. The book suggests that a smudged partial fingerprint from the sniper's nest likely belonged to Johnson's associate Malcolm "Mac" Wallace, and that Mac Wallace was therefore the assassin. The book further claims that the killing of Kennedy was paid for by oil magnates including Clint Murchison and H. L. Hunt . McClellan's book subsequently became the subject of an episode of Nigel Turner's ongoing documentary television series, The Men Who Killed Kennedy . The episode, entitled "The Guilty Men", drew angry condemnation from the Johnson family, President Johnson's former aides, and ex-Presidents Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter following its airing on The History Channel . The History Channel assembled a committee of historians who concluded the accusations in the documentary were without merit; the History Channel apologized to the Johnson family and agreed not to air the series in the future.

Madeleine D. Brown, who was an alleged mistress of Johnson, has also implicated him in a conspiracy to kill Kennedy. In 1997, Brown alleged that Johnson, along with H. L. Hunt, had begun planning Kennedy's demise as early as 1960. Brown claimed that by its fruition in 1963 the conspiracy involved dozens of persons including the leadership of the FBI and the Mafia as well as well-known politicians and journalists. In the documentary The Men Who Killed Kennedy , Brown and a former employee of Clint Murchison both placed J. Edgar Hoover and Johnson at a dinner at Murchison's mansion shortly before the assassination. Brown claimed in the documentary that Johnson told her after the party that the Kennedys "will never embarrass me again". Similar suspicions are voiced by a number of LBJ associates, including Brown, in their own words in the 2006 documentary Evidence of Revision. Jackie Onassis, Kennedy's wife, also believed that LBJ was involved in the murder of her husband.

Johnson was also accused of complicity in the assassination by former CIA agent and Watergate figure E. Howard Hunt.


45 posted on 02/06/2012 7:13:52 AM PST by deport (..............God Bless Texas............)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Again, the article says Jackie blamed LBJ and “a cabal of Texas tycoons”.

The city of Dallas has been blamed.

The state of Texas in which Dallas exists has been blamed.

I lived through it as a native born Texan and I followed the media and all the comments and articles and tv punditry.

What Jackie purportedly says tracks exactly with how the Kennedys and the Eastern Elites thought and felt.

Likewise I know a ton about LBJ and could never stand the man.

That does not prove him or Lady Bird to be murderers of JFK.


46 posted on 02/06/2012 7:16:11 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The TV generation just loves conspiracy theories.


47 posted on 02/06/2012 7:18:21 AM PST by ErnBatavia (Carterize Obama in November)
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To: G Larry

Like this is something new. This was the belief among my teenage friends on the day Kennedy was shot. It was pretty common knowledge even then that LBJ was a $h!tbag and not above having his adversaries removed; permanently.


48 posted on 02/06/2012 7:20:18 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: GreenHornet

I agree, when it happened I was a young fellow more interested in partying than with politics but I long ago was struck by how those who tell the story present James Earl Ray as a bumbling, small time criminal who could barely tie his own shoes but somehow he morphs into someone who is able to set up this assassination and carry it off, then becomes stupid enough to drop the murder weapon with his fingerprints on it and changes yet again into a genius able to elude the law for months after escaping to a foreign country and living there with no visible means of support. It all sounds like fantasy. I find Ray’s story more credible than the government’s, after all I never knew Ray so I don’t know whether he was a habitual liar but I know damned well our government lies to us every day.


49 posted on 02/06/2012 7:21:34 AM PST by RipSawyer
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To: deport

Based on your excerpted material, appears to me a headline could just as easily read,

“J Edgar Hoover a co-conspirator in Kennedy Murder”

But we don’t see that, do we?

Much more convenient to ballyhoo that it was “Texans” that did it.

To the extent that Lee Oswald was a resident at the time, I will admit that Texas resident Oswald murdered, or participated in the murder of, JFK.


50 posted on 02/06/2012 7:23:08 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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