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Hawaii Elections Clerk Tim Adams Says There is No Obama Birth Certificate from Hawaii
BBCW ^ | 3 March 2012 | Bungalow Bill

Posted on 03/03/2012 7:02:42 AM PST by Erik Latranyi

Just a day after Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Apaio presented proof the birth certificate presented by Barack Obama as proof he meets Constitutional eligibility to be president is a fraud, we have a story coming out of Hawaii that may provide problems for Obama.

Jerome Corsi writes:

Former Hawaii elections clerk Tim Adams has now signed an affidavit swearing he was told by his supervisors in Hawaii that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Barack Obama Jr. in Hawaii and that neither Queens Medical Center nor Kapi’olani Medical Center in Honolulu had any record of Obama having been born in their medical facilities.

“During the course of my employment,” Adams swears in the affidavit (viewable in full as part 1 and part 2), “I became aware that many requests were being made to the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division, the Hawaii Office of Elections, and the Hawaii Department of Health from around the country to obtain a copy of then-Senator Barack Obama’s long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate.”

As he inquired about the birth certificate, he says, his supervisors told him that the records were not on file at the Hawaii Department of Health.

“Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division told me on multiple occasions that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama in the Hawaii Department of Health,” Adams’ affidavit reads, “and there was no record that any such document had ever been on file in the Hawaii Department of Health or any other branch or department of the Hawaii government.”


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: arizona; birthcertificate; birther; certifigate; corsi; hawaii; joearpaio; kenyanbornmuzzie; naturalborncitizen; obama; sheriffjoe; timadams
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To: Harlan1196; All
Have a good evening.

I'll be sure and ping you tomorrow so you can address this...

Obama has never used the pdf copy of his BC for any legal purpose so what’s the big deal?
LIE!

Jablonski sent a copy of the long and short form to Kemp in his protest letter.

341 posted on 03/07/2012 7:12:10 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

And it would appear that the SoS accepted them. Looks like Kemp doesn’t agree with the birthers - what a shock.

You know the real reason he was sent those copies? It was to force him to choose between accepting them as real or supporting the birthers. A come to Jesus moment so to speak. Politics is a dirty business and the Chicago crowd are the dirtiest around.


342 posted on 03/07/2012 7:16:33 PM PST by Harlan1196
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To: philman_36

But you don’t drive me crazy. You are a good adversary - I win some and I lose some but it is always interesting. Thanks.


343 posted on 03/07/2012 7:23:02 PM PST by Harlan1196
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To: Harlan1196

Well then since you’re still here address your lie in reply 331.


344 posted on 03/07/2012 7:46:43 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Harlan1196
Obama has never used the pdf copy of his BC for any legal purpose so what’s the big deal?

@Georgia Rules for Obama

A "Notice to Produce" had been timely served by Hatfield; however, Obama's attorney, Michael Jablonski, simply ignored it, and Judge Malihi failed to acknowledge it in his decision. Interestingly, according to Hatfield, Jablonski attempted to "back-door" electronic images of Obama's long- and short-form birth certificates into the record by attaching them to the infamous letter of defiance to Kemp on January 25, against Georgia's rules of evidence.
345 posted on 03/07/2012 7:50:08 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

By “we” he must mean either his fellow fogblowers or the administration “social media” propanda trolls he works with.


346 posted on 03/07/2012 10:15:15 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: little jeremiah
By “we” he must mean either his fellow fogblowers or the administration “social media” propanda trolls he works with.
@"We are The Priests of the Temple of OmniPOTUS".
LOL
347 posted on 03/07/2012 10:56:10 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: mojitojoe; DiogenesLamp; Harlan1196

I also believe that poster Harlan1196 is in fact an Obot as you suggest.

DiogenesLamp argues that based on the poster’s alleged conservative opinions on other topics in the past, he is not.

In the spy world it is important to establish a credible persona that allows the infiltrator to be accepted.

Therefore an aspiring Obot would likely strive to appear conservative an all other things of lesser importance.

These topics might be standard boilerplate issues like abortion, socialized medicine, gun control etc.

However, the most important issue to Obama has to be that his work so far be preserved. If he is removed from office for the frauds and felonies he as committed he will have lost it all, up to and including ObamaCare, two socialists on the Supreme Court and every other bill he signed into law. All would be nullified. It would be a major catastrophe for the Left. This is why Obots like Harlan are sent out to ridicule, persuade, cajole, defame and demoralize conservatives as “Birthers”... to make anyone “ashamed” to even think “Birther” thoughts.

Notice all the classical Alinsky tactics he uses in his responses. In particular ridicule, name calling, and “shaming”.

Note also the sheer amount of time and energy he expends on this and similar threads defending Obama. I believe he must be paid well by his handlers for his considerable effort.

Of course we also can look at his FR home page where he sets up a convincing past. But the recent sign-up date is a red flashing light.

Poster El Sordo may also be an Obot, although his sign-up date is much earlier. But then how do we know this the original Sordo? Maybe his account was hacked or sold (Soros has lots of money and everyone has a price). Maybe Sordo changed his ideology... it happens. Look at the case of Barry Goldwater, or David Brock.

It is also possible that some of the Obots are not conscious agents but dupes, i.e. actual conservatives who have been Alinskyized by shame, ridicule and peer pressure from liberal friend and relatives, etc.


348 posted on 03/08/2012 3:54:08 AM PST by Blado (Obama's brain is a coprolite from the Late Soviet Era)
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To: philman_36

And it would appear that the SoS accepted them. Looks like Kemp doesn’t agree with the birthers - what a shock.

You know the real reason he was sent those copies? It was to force him to choose between accepting them as real or supporting the birthers. A come to Jesus moment so to speak. Politics is a dirty business and the Chicago crowd are the dirtiest around.


349 posted on 03/08/2012 3:57:19 AM PST by Harlan1196
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To: Harlan1196
And it would appear that the SoS accepted them.
So why did you lie last night?

Obama has never used the pdf copy of his BC for any legal purpose so what’s the big deal?
You took your usual "off into a tangent" tactic.

A come to Jesus moment so to speak. Politics is a dirty business and the Chicago crowd are the dirtiest around.
You make it sound like he was threatened into compliance.

Speaking of threats...
No wonder your threats come across as hollow and meaningless.
Where have I threatened you?

350 posted on 03/08/2012 6:30:51 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Blado
I also believe that poster Harlan1196 is in fact an Obot as you suggest.

DiogenesLamp argues that based on the poster’s alleged conservative opinions on other topics in the past, he is not.

I was referring to El Sordo. I have looked at some of El Sordo's past posting history and commentary, and I see him take conservative stances on other issues. I have also looked at Harlan1196's commentary, and I do not recall seeing him do anything OTHER than defending Obama's legitimacy. I am suspecting he is an Obot myself.

In the spy world it is important to establish a credible persona that allows the infiltrator to be accepted.

Therefore an aspiring Obot would likely strive to appear conservative an all other things of lesser importance.

These topics might be standard boilerplate issues like abortion, socialized medicine, gun control etc.

This is only for the clever ones. I have argued with many of them, and I find a lot of them really really really do not want to talk about Abortion. I think in some cases, they just can't help letting their true feelings come out.

However, the most important issue to Obama has to be that his work so far be preserved. If he is removed from office for the frauds and felonies he as committed he will have lost it all, up to and including ObamaCare, two socialists on the Supreme Court and every other bill he signed into law. All would be nullified. It would be a major catastrophe for the Left. This is why Obots like Harlan are sent out to ridicule, persuade, cajole, defame and demoralize conservatives as “Birthers”... to make anyone “ashamed” to even think “Birther” thoughts.

Getting everything Obama did overturned is such a worthy goal that I simply cannot understand why there is anyone on the conservative side who would defend him. Even if they feel differently, isn't it better to just remain silent and let people try to take him down? Why defend him?

Notice all the classical Alinsky tactics he uses in his responses. In particular ridicule, name calling, and “shaming”.

Note also the sheer amount of time and energy he expends on this and similar threads defending Obama. I believe he must be paid well by his handlers for his considerable effort.

Or he is a "true believer." I have dealt with loony Democrats in the past. They will pull some dirty sh*t. Back in 1992, I put a sign up on my property next to a highway. It said "Clinton Supports Homosexuals." Within a week, they doused it with Gasoline and set it on fire. (I put it right back up again.) The Following week, they set my grassland on fire. Fortunately the local fire department was called and put it out before it reached my house. This was in the middle of the night.

To say that they are unhinged is an understatement. They are foaming at the mouth lunatics who can sometimes pretend to be normal.

Of course we also can look at his FR home page where he sets up a convincing past. But the recent sign-up date is a red flashing light.

His FR Home page is indeed inconsistent with his behavior. I find it hard to believe that someone could be so conservative on their home page, yet want to defend Obama. I do have one possible explanation for it though. On another website, there is a long serving Navy Officer whom I respect greatly. His mother is Italian, and his father is American. He was born in Italy. He is absolutely convinced that he is a "natural born citizen" and will not accept any argument which says otherwise.

I think this is an emotional response, and not a thoughtful one. I suspect that there are other people who are in some similar situation, that although they are conservative, they simply cannot accept the fact that THEY (or their Children) are not "natural born citizens." These people will defend Obama's claim, simply because they worry about their own. Just an idea.

Poster El Sordo may also be an Obot, although his sign-up date is much earlier. But then how do we know this the original Sordo? Maybe his account was hacked or sold (Soros has lots of money and everyone has a price). Maybe Sordo changed his ideology... it happens. Look at the case of Barry Goldwater, or David Brock.

It happens. I personally think Peggy Noonan has gone over to the other side, among others. On the other hand, El Sordo still writes things as though he were a conservative.

There ARE actual, real bonified, true conservatives who refuse to accept either the Birth Certificate, or the "Natural born citizen" issue. They simply will not accept it. The Ace of Spades HQ is filled with such people. I just saw there today where one of my most obnoxious debating opponents (Calling himself "Charlie Brown's Dildo") is hosting a meetup event in New Jersey for people who frequent Ace of Spades Website.

MOST of the conservatives on that website dismiss the birthcertificate/eligibility issue, and will argue viciously in favor of Obama's legitimacy. (Same thing with Allahpundit and Ed Morrissey over at Hot Air. And let us not Forget Eric Erickson of "Red State.)

This behavior has always puzzled me. Why someone would defend our enemy, I simply don't understand, but none the less I recognize we have Conservatives who will do so. As for Harlan1196, If all he does is defend Obama, I don't see much use for him even if he isn't an Obot.

351 posted on 03/08/2012 6:33:27 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Harlan1196
You know the real reason he was sent those copies? It was to force him to choose between accepting them as real or supporting the birthers. A come to Jesus moment so to speak. Politics is a dirty business and the Chicago crowd are the dirtiest around.

Why would he need to be "forced" to accept anything?

352 posted on 03/08/2012 6:33:27 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Ray76
You would be more persuasive if you omitted the adjectives, e.g. “birther”. The word is partisan, emotional rather than an appeal to reason, and damages your credibility.

He has no credibility in my opinion. I regard him as a loon.

353 posted on 03/08/2012 6:34:42 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: noinfringers2
A jet flight out of Kenya either to Hawaii or Washington state in the time frame given is possible. It is also possible Obama had a different birth date than the one given/recorded by Hawaii records. There are too many dots to be connected for me to dismiss a Kenyan birth by Obama.

I put little stock in the possibility of a Kenyan birth. Here is an Article from American Thinker which convinced me that it is extremely unlikely.

If other information comes forward which supports the theory, I will of course re-evaluate. I put no stock whatsoever in what people TELL me the Kenyan Grandmother says. I also put no stock in any document purported to have come from Kenya. As far as i'm concerned, they have the evidential value of a Nigerian scam letter.

354 posted on 03/08/2012 6:41:15 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: philman_36

If Obama was required to submit a BC in a legal proceeding, he would not use an electronic copy. Hawaii would simply send the court a certified copy of the COLB and that would be that.

Obama send Kent those BCs as a political message - he had no legal requirement to give Kemp anything.

It was a sharp, hard knock on Kemp’s forehead to focus him on what he was getting himself into if he backed the birthers.

Birthers have this fantasy that if they could only get Obama’s BC into court, it would be exposed as a forgery and and that Hawaiian corruption would be revealed.

Obama reminded Kemp that if push came to shove in a court of law, Hawaii would simply send the court a certified copy of the COLB and the court would accept without question. Kemp is no fool.


355 posted on 03/08/2012 6:41:40 AM PST by Harlan1196
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To: philman_36

Maybe forced was too strong a word - lets just say that it laid out his choices very clearly. Accept conventional wisdom that the BCs were valid or go down the birther path.

His office accepted those birth certificates without question or comment.


356 posted on 03/08/2012 6:46:18 AM PST by Harlan1196
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To: Harlan1196
If Obama was required to submit a BC in a legal proceeding, he would not use an electronic copy. Hawaii would simply send the court a certified copy of the COLB and that would be that.

Obama send Kent those BCs as a political message - he had no legal requirement to give Kemp anything.

It was a sharp, hard knock on Kemp’s forehead to focus him on what he was getting himself into if he backed the birthers.

Birthers have this fantasy that if they could only get Obama’s BC into court, it would be exposed as a forgery and and that Hawaiian corruption would be revealed.

Obama reminded Kemp that if push came to shove in a court of law, Hawaii would simply send the court a certified copy of the COLB and the court would accept without question. Kemp is no fool.

Hitler's brown shirts twisted arms to get people to do what they wanted. I think Obama and his forces are the modern embodiment of the same.

I believe Obama's long form is a "legal forgery" created by DOH under Court Order to create a replacement birth certificate designed to look like an original. I don't see how his lawyers would accept being involved in anything which they knew to be illegal, and that might eventually get discovered.

Circumstantial evidence indicates Obama was adopted twice, and it makes it highly likely that his original was sealed and that he was issued a new document by Court Order.

I find this possibility highly persuasive because the same thing happened to me. *I* am adopted, and *I* have a replacement birth certificate.

357 posted on 03/08/2012 6:53:17 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Harlan1196
Maybe forced was too strong a word - lets just say that it laid out his choices very clearly. Accept conventional wisdom that the BCs were valid or go down the birther path.

No, "FORCED" is precisely the correct word. Brown Shirts also wore suits when they needed to.

His office accepted those birth certificates without question or comment.

It takes a strong man to stand up against the forces of darkness, rather than join them as you seem to have done.


358 posted on 03/08/2012 6:59:27 AM PST by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Harlan1196
If Obama was required to submit a BC in a legal proceeding, he would not use an electronic copy.
He was required to by judicial order and he and his attorney refused to show up much less bring the ordered objects.

Hawaii would simply send the court a certified copy of the COLB and that would be that.
It wasn't Hawaii's responsibility to send anything in. It was the defendant's responsibility to appear with it and he didn't.

Obama send Kent those BCs as a political message...
Isn't that against the law?

...he had no legal requirement to give Kemp anything.
So why did Jablonski send them to Kemp instead of showing up in court as ordered with the required objects?

It was a sharp, hard knock on Kemp’s forehead to focus him on what he was getting himself into if he backed the birthers.
You don't seem to have a problem with the coercion of public officials.

Birthers have this fantasy that if they could only get Obama’s BC into court, it would be exposed as a forgery and and that Hawaiian corruption would be revealed.
It figures that you would have such a jaundiced view of the issue. Thanks for sharing it.

Obama reminded Kemp that if push came to shove in a court of law, Hawaii would simply send the court a certified copy of the COLB and the court would accept without question. Kemp is no fool.
Again, you don't seem to understand...the Defendant was ordered to appear with the required objects. The State of Hawaii had no obligations placed upon it.

Is today a day off for the Harlan of yesterday?

359 posted on 03/08/2012 7:03:21 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Harlan1196
His office accepted those birth certificates without question or comment.
His office was sent those possibly forged items without any knowledge that they were being sent to them.


You can't know what's in an envelope until you open it, can you?

360 posted on 03/08/2012 7:11:30 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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