Posted on 03/11/2012 8:41:47 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
Barack Hussein Obama, using eight different names, has failed to meet eligibility requirements for the office of U.S. President according to a 19 point challenge alleging he was born in Kenya to a Kenyan citizen and a teen age mother not old enough to convey U.S. citizenship.
Democrat Attorney Philip J. Berg who filed his challenge to the nomination petition with the Pennsylvania Commonwealth on February 23, doubts in Argument 13 that “Obama ever held Natural Born Citizenship status!”
Centering on the NBC clause, Article II, Sect. 1, Clause 5, the eligibility challenge states that Barack Hussein Obama, aka Barack Hussein Soetoro is “not a Natural Born Citizen as defined by the U.S, Constitution. Furthermore, Obama was “born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, (and) at the time of his birth his mother was only 18 years old and not old enough to confer U.S. NBC status to him.”
The native born PA attorney is bringing transparency to the Obama eligibility problem for which media pundits and liberal politicians have ridiculed birthers for even bringing up the situation.
Berg’s argumentation point 3 says (BHO) was “born at Coast Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya located in Coast Province,’ to a father who was a Kenyan citizen, and to a mother “not old enough and did not reside in the U.S. long enough to register the Candidate’s birth in Hawaii as a NBC.
Berg cites five different case law applications here and further says the law applied to overseas births must be in effect at the time of the birth in question.
He cites Marquez-Marques aka Moreno v. Gonzales. 455F.3rd 548 (5th Circuit 2006) and Runnett v. Shultz 901 F.2d 782,783 (9th Cir. 1990) to further support his challenge.
The eight different names cited are Barack Hussein Obama;….
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I doubt if he was ever naturalized which means he is an illegal.
“Lib chicks WERE the easy ones back then...I’ve heard that the tradition continues.
A Fluke by any other name ...”
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Oh, the good old days.... here a Fluke, there a Fluke, everywhere a Fluke Fluke!
1. If I understand what happened correctly, the President of the United States, Obama, had to make a special request to Hawaii officials in order for those officials to release his long form birth certificate.
2. At the same time, I think that Obama used the term "silliness" to describe the growing public demand that he release his long form Hawaii birth certificate, so, according to Obama, he went ahead and released his long form birth certificate to put a stop to all this "silliness."
3. Occidental College records: On the other hand, when Obama is asked over and over by the public to release his Occidental College in California records---records that would be easier for Obama to obtain than his Hawaii long form birth certificate because a simple phone call to Occidental officials would probably have his college records released almost immediately---Obama has been conspicuously silent.
4. So when it comes to the public outcry that Obama release his Occidental records, President Obama does not describe the outcry as just a bunch of "silliness" as he did when he described the public's outcry that he release his Hawaii long form birth certificate.
5. That is, you don’t hear President Obama or any of his immediate staff making fun of those people who demand over and over that Obama release his Occidental College records like they make fun of those “birthers” who claim the President Obama’s long form Hawaii birth certificate is a fake. No sir.
6. President Obama and his press secretary do not even bring up the subject of Occidental records at White House daily press conferences.
7. In fact, it looks like President Obama will never voluntarily release his Occidental College in California records in our lifetime, no matter how much pressure we the public put on the President of the United States.
8. Why is that? What is the President of the United States trying to hide that is in his Occidental College in California records?
9. Social Security controversy: And there is the controversy surrounding Obama's Social Security number: Why is the number assigned to President Obama in the 1970s a number that would normally be assigned to a person who filed for his Social Security number in Connecticut, when there is no record that teenager Obama ever lived in or visited Connecticut?
10. Again, it would be easier for Obama to get a copy of his original Social Security application and to quickly release it to the public than it would be for him to get a copy of his Hawaii long form birth certificate, but yet Obama has been conspicuously silent when it comes to discussing his Connecticut issued Social Security number. Why is that?
11. That is, we don't see Obama going on national tv and describing this Social Security controversy as just a bunch of "silliness" as he described the controversy surrounding his Hawaii long form birth certificate. Why is that?
12. We also don’t see Obama’s immediate staff going on talk shows and making fun of those people who want President Obama to finally explain how he ended up with a Connecticut Social Security number and put this controversy to rest. Why is that, when members of President Obama's staff and his supporters were quick to jump all over Trump and ridicule him when Trump questioned the authenticity of President Obama’s long and short form birth certificates?
13. I make the statement above about how easy it would be for President Obama to obtain a copy of his Social Security application form for this reason: Anybody can easily and quickly obtain a copy of his Social Security application form by simply requesting a copy from Social Security and paying a small fee.
14. In addition, as we know, the information asked for on the brief Social Security application form is very short, that is, the application form basically asks only for your name, date of birth, and home address. That is it. So why would President Obama be so scared to let the public examine his original Social Security application form when there is really not much personal information on it?
15. NOTE: You can check out Social Security's website for details on how to obtain a copy of your Social Security application form by paying a small fee.
16. For instance, one can see a copy of deceased President Eisenhower's original Social Security application on the web, but, of course, Eisenhower's application can now be seen because he is deceased.
17. Again, President Obama would probably find it much easier to have his Occidental College in California records and his Social Security application form released to the public than he would in having his Hawaii long form birth certificate released, but the President of the United States, Obama, and his staff have remained conspicuously silent when it comes to the release of these two items. Why is that?
18. I can only conclude the following: The President of the United States, Obama, won't release his Occidental College in California records and his original Social Security application form---the one he supposedly filled out in the 1970s as a teenager in Hawaii---because he is trying to hide something that would be damaging to his political career.
While I share the opinion that an NBC ought to have two citizen parents (as do a number of political thinkers over the last 200 years) as a practical matter the legal support for this view doesn't seem to be there.
Add in historical examples of a previous President having a citizen mother and non-citizen father at birth and Presidential candidates with similar pedigrees and there just doesn't seem to be a strong justification for the 2-parent argument.
And from what I have read in American civics textbooks from the 1800’s and early 1900’s the concern was birth in the US. Though yes, this doesn't apply to Romney the elder it does apply to BHO.
...and why doesn’t he reveal his records and grades from Columbia College of Columbia University in New York City? He is said to have transferred there for the second half of college. He stonewalls requests for those as well. No one knows what courses he took or what grades he got.
Jes tryin to see if you was payin attention, Doc. You passed.
BTW, Barry's LFBC "copy" is not really really a 100% fake. They obviously made it up from selected bits and pieces of stuff allegedly "on file with the HIDOH." Pretty fair job. Of course, it would never get past the DMV if it were a car title; but all things considered and given a compliant Republican Party and MSM, not all that bad a job of DIY photo-shoppe jiggery-pokery.
Columbia has a School of General Studies.
To be admitted as a General Studies student one must absolutely meet two stringent requirements:
(A) Have a pulse.
(B) Have a check for the exhorbitant fees of whatever course you wish to take.
If you hang around long enough, and the University agrees to give credit for course work done elsewhere or "life experience," one can actually receive a genuine Columbia College degree; without of course, ever actually having been matriculated at Columbia College
Cool, no? Lots of Universities have this interesting "General Studies" opportunity.
Of course, a genuine Columbia COLLEGE student would rather be caught with a dead zebra in his room than be seen pal-ing around with a General Studies student. Which is probably why "nobody" at Columbia knew the guy. (That's because Columbia College is a genuine Ivy League school, to which a dumkopf like Barry, with his lackluster [if any} SATs, low HS Grades, and likely undistinguished history at deare olde Occidental, would never have been admitted, even with an interestingly slight case of pigmentation.)
Release his college records? Not bloody likely.
I think the thing Limbaugh is going through is a demonstration of the power of big media and the Dems...it is a warning...if any of you guys go after Obama’s many past issues we will destroy you.
Breitbart is dead and Rush is being hounded...a coincidence??? Maybe...maybe not.
However, since neither of us (well me, definitely) is not cashing SCOTUS paychecks, permit me to suggest that the black robed bumkissers of that august institution find a way to help us out.
I was aware of the 1961 ruling. I am aware also that Barack Hussein Obama might well be a citizen. However, gnawing at the back of my mind (or what remains of it after 4 years of this discussion) is the notion that a class of Natural Born Citizens would not need the benefit of Congress to declare it so.
However, should the SCOTUS ever get off its collective duff on this question, they would find that I would immediately be in some sort of conformity with their decision, whether I liked it or not.
Call it confusion, but I fail to see how a man who at his majority automatically had the choice of British, Kenyan, Indonesian, or American Citizenship could be considered a Natural Born American Citizen, such as I, who had no such choice.
“Team Obama is doing some fancy skating on this Columbia dealie.
Columbia has a School of General Studies.
To be admitted as a General Studies student one must absolutely meet two stringent requirements:
(A) Have a pulse.
(B) Have a check for the exhorbitant fees of whatever course you wish to take.
If you hang around long enough, and the University agrees to give credit for course work done elsewhere or “life experience,” one can actually receive a genuine Columbia College degree; without of course, ever actually having been matriculated at Columbia College
Cool, no? Lots of Universities have this interesting “General Studies” opportunity.
Of course, a genuine Columbia COLLEGE student would rather be caught with a dead zebra in his room than be seen pal-ing around with a General Studies student. Which is probably why “nobody” at Columbia knew the guy. (That’s because Columbia College is a genuine Ivy League school, to which a dumkopf like Barry, with his lackluster [if any} SATs, low HS Grades, and likely undistinguished history at deare olde Occidental, would never have been admitted, even with an interestingly slight case of pigmentation.)
Release his college records? Not bloody likely.?”
Your theory is one I have entertained, as well. If he matriculated at Columbia University, it surely must have been at the school of General Studies. If he had been a student at Columbia College, it’s impossible that noone remembers him at Columbia College. Actually, it’s even unlikely that no one remembers him from the School of General Studies, even though people pass in such a place like ships in the night. What we don’t know if whether someone who never took a Columbia College course or took just a few could wind up with a prestigious Columbia College undergraduate degree by a process of appeal to us General Studies and life experience as substitutes. If that happened, maybe pressure was brought or bought to make it happen. If such a pseudo Columbia College degree were given, would the year of the degree still be 1983?
That degree thing wasn't all that special, as I know several people who did it. The University's mechanism for it was simply to grant the BA from Columbia College. The requirements were fairly stringent, so whether or not he actually met them, or was granted grace and favor through his Ayres connection (A relative at Barnard), is a pretty fair question. It is weird that our boy did it so quickly.
As far as the year of the degree, I actually think he did graduate in '83.
Thanks 2ndDivisionVet!
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