Posted on 03/30/2012 2:25:10 PM PDT by Ben Barrack
get over yerself...we HAD a chance, actually several of them since the 90s to stop bambam, and each was pissed away by the brokers in the early run-up to the elections, resulting in the inevitable *lesser of evils* and guilt trip rhetoric...
just by the 'holier than thous' and '*purist* conservatives' language, you admit that you KNOW that your 'lesser than' advocacy somehow is superior to us less enlightened and undeserving proles...your condescending tone is noted, and rejected...
for that, you can simply kiss my 'holier than thou' ass and enroll in an English 101 course, and maybe you'll realize that theres no box on the ballot to vote *against* a candidate, and that a vote *for* someone indicates the voters approval of said candidate...
since i physically cant vote against bambam, and i intellectually/morally cant vote for any of the losers being pushed to *REPRESENT* me, my family or my country, you might need to prepare for the worst, because *WE* arent playin that game this time...
if you want to live in FEAR and cower to the dictates of the rin-o-p and rnc,fine... Im done with the flying circus that is fed politics.../rant
nobody wants/wanted a cival war...too bad nobody listened when we voiced opinions to change course 10, 20 , 30 or 50 + yrs ago...now its inevitable, and id rather do it, than make my kids do it for me...
THAT, my FRiend, is UNacceptable...
You are really scaring me sjb...we are on the same side of this argument.
No matter what one thinks of Repubs in general, four more years of Obama will be unimaginably bad.
” THAT, my FRiend, is UNacceptable...”
None of this is acceptable.
...and you are a good guy too. I am not telling you what to do, that is your conscience.
However those Republicans who give Romney a blank check to promote any liberal policy he wants under the guise that only he can save America (and they are lining up in droves just as Gilbo and I said they would), they are looking for lots of self induced pain.
I see the past week or so Romney ALREADY said that man-induced global warming is a serious problem. He didn't even wait till he wrapped up the primary.
He says he is for raising the Federal minimum wage. Seems like that is something states can do on their own.
” I am not telling you what to do, that is your conscience.”
I don’t have one anymore.
If we had had any leadership at ALL, Obama would be in the 30’s. The blood is on the GOPe for this outrage, should it come to blood. I can understand that the Dims have moved hard left, as I could see that coming 20+ years ago. I NEVER thought I would see the D.C. Republicans 50% weaker than Trent Lott. It is almost unbearable to watch these cowards hide in a cave, afraid of offending a black man.
As I have said before, I will be watching closely to see what Romney does after he feels he has safely won the nomination, assuming that happens.
Will he flip his positions back to his liberal ones ?
Will he sound convincing?
Will he attack Obama?
It is possible he could surprise me.
Yeah, it will be interesting.
Yeah, it will be interesting.
The real question is: Would Obama’s re-election be good for the country?
The answer: No.
I can always count on you :)
You know they are terrified when the tell us they would vote for Stalin to beat Obama.
Well you know there are distinct advantages to losing despite the obvious extreme drawbacks. The Supreme Court is by far the biggest drawback.
Assuming Romney beat Obama in 2012. Then
Case 1: Scalia or Kennedy, or both, retire or die before 2017 (would turn 80 in 2016). I would guess that Romney would appoint people who are not as far left as O's would be, but "moderates" on the SCOTUS could do a lot of damage. The left has plenty of support in the bureaucracies, just waiting for any excuse. It's possible that he would appoint conservatives, but who knows.
Case 2: Scalia and Kennedy survive until 2017. Romney might be a 1-termer, followed by a leftist monster. Or Romney is reelected, and Scalia and Kennedy, age 84 in 2020, could retire and we go back to case 1.
Obama wins reelection:
Case 1: Scalia or Kennedy, or both, retire or die before 2017. I think it's almost certain that Obama appoints a very far left stooge or 2, and the GOP goes through the motions of asking questions, but does not block the nomination.
Case 2: Scalia and Kennedy survive 4 years. Either a GOP candidate (could be Romney) or a Dem will be the new POTUS. Good chance of electing a R in 2016, perhaps better than Romney, but far less likely it would be Coolidge, Eisenhower, or Reagan. We might lose the chance for a GOP POTUS better than Romney to replace conservative justices who left between 2013-2016.
Ginsberg, Breyer, and Thomas could leave the court too. This is an extremely complex probability problem, not a logic problem.
The midterm election is the biggest plus. Obama wiped out Bush fatigue and 2 elections of solid rat gain in 2 short years.
Another plus is not having a GWB "see you at the signing," paving the way for another Obama. If Romney wins, I hope that does not occur, but Romney's past is not very reassuring.
If the court overturns Obamacare that would take a lot of the sting out of it. But if they court upholds it and Obama wins then socialist medicine is here to stay forever and ever.
That ugly possibility worries me too.
So I dont think its worth the risk, God help me Id take a flyer on a RINO and hope they arent as big a disaster as the last RINO. If Romney wins as is as big a RINO as most of us think then we cant win either way.
As I said, the possibilities are extremely complex. I have not decided whether to vote or not (of course I won't vote for O.), because Romney might be worse than Obama, e. g. he might flip again on amnesty and take the GOP down the way GWB did. My wife has already declared she won't vote for POTUS this time.
Man, the whole situation is as ugly as ugly gets.
But this much is clear...if Obama wins, nothing will stop him from destroying America.
Scalia will never voluntarily retire while Obama is POTUS. I suspect Kennedy feels similarly.
That means there is little chance that the court will change the next 4 years. I wouldn't make their retirement the basis for my decision.
Suppose Kennedy or Scalia retires in 2017 due to health problems after a Romney POTUS is such a disaster that Dems take the WH and Senate again?
See?? It's not so easy to forcast.
that was about all the hope&change i had left for reach around the aisle politics, or worse, utter capitulation by our *reps*...
rand paul is about the only vote ive ever made that i dont regret...wish we had 100 like him, and just one for POTUS...NOT his daddy tho...hehehehe...
I will NOT compromise my principles again...
Codespeak Alert
That's possible ONLY if the conservative justices on the Supreme Court survive four more years. In fact, I hope they're immortal, especially if Massachusetts Mittens somehow gets elected, because Mittens is the next David Souter appointment waiting to happen.
You HAVE TO. Vote for the RINO or the puppy gets it.
It could save us a whole 2 or 3 years before the country implodes.
you got a pic of the 'not this $h!t again' guy ???
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