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Violence in Films and Killing Sprees: Why it's Time to Say NO to Hollywood's Offerings
Consequential Commentary ^ | 7-21-12 | Mary C. Kirchhoff

Posted on 07/21/2012 4:13:16 PM PDT by InHisService

Hollywood consistently churns out movies that are filled with very graphic and gory violence. While I'm not blaming them for what this sick killer did, let's face it: we live in a culture that embraces violence. How do we embrace it? By paying our hard earned money to see movies where people are shot with guns, mutilated, killed and blown up on a regular basis.

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: coloradoshooting; culturewars; hollywierd; hollywierdos; hollywood; hollywoodmovies; violence
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1 posted on 07/21/2012 4:13:28 PM PDT by InHisService
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To: InHisService

The lack of parenting plays the biggest part.


2 posted on 07/21/2012 4:16:09 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

It’s not just Hollywood it is the video games too. Kill and destroy over and over.


3 posted on 07/21/2012 4:20:21 PM PDT by MCF
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To: MCF

And heavy metal music was going to make me a devil worshiper.

It didn’t because I had responsible parents who paid enough attention to prod me along the way.


4 posted on 07/21/2012 4:23:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: InHisService

The liberals in Hollywood all want gun control yet all they do in the movies is depict completely gratuitous use of guns


5 posted on 07/21/2012 4:25:22 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: InHisService
By all means, the actions of the lowest common denominator among us must define us all.

That way, we can all be presumed criminals.

It makes controlling and disposing of us so much easier.

6 posted on 07/21/2012 4:28:41 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: InHisService

Back in the 1940’s, movies were much more wholesome — and hardly anyone got killed in that decade!


7 posted on 07/21/2012 4:31:40 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Roger Taney? Not a bad Chief Justice. John Roberts? A really awful Chief Justice.)
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To: InHisService

Along with saying NO to the GOP offerings.


8 posted on 07/21/2012 4:32:04 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: InHisService

If seeing violence in media causes people to become violent, then how does one explain the paradox of the Japanese?

Many of their films and even some of their anime and manga are often filled with images of the most gut-churning violence you can think of, quite a bit of it strongly associated with sexual overtones. I’m talking the kind of things that would likely make Jeffrey Dahmer and the Marquis de Sade physically ill.

So then why is Japan not a literal hell-on-earth? Why are the Japanese not all slaughtering each other in the most vile and obscene ways that even most the depraved minds cannot imagine?

If certain Japanese films, anime, or manga were well-known in the USA (outside of a few aficionados of such peculiar things) I can imagine a lot of people would be screaming bloody murder (no pun intended) about it.

The one question is, why are the Japanese seemingly impervious to such hideous depictions in their popular culture?


9 posted on 07/21/2012 4:35:20 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: InHisService

B T T T


10 posted on 07/21/2012 4:36:09 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
How about 18 or older to see any films/movies that show any type of gun violence or violence in general.

Maybe it would force hollyweird into making more family oriented films.

11 posted on 07/21/2012 4:38:40 PM PDT by Johnny_cash
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To: ClearCase_guy
Hehehe, I see what you did there :)

Violence doesn't bother me so much as to context of the violence. Same way with anything going on in a movie, violence, sex, drug use, etc. If the gangbanger, prostitute, and junky are portrayed in a negative way and not uplifted then I don't have a problem. That and what others have said about parenting.

12 posted on 07/21/2012 4:40:17 PM PDT by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
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To: uncbob

Excellent point! Hypocrites.


13 posted on 07/21/2012 4:41:13 PM PDT by InHisService (Jesus is coming back. Are you ready?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I wonder what movies Andrew Kehoe was watching in 1927.


14 posted on 07/21/2012 4:41:50 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Johnny_cash

How about a ban on sugary drinks too? (/s)


15 posted on 07/21/2012 4:41:50 PM PDT by Kaosinla (The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Hehehe, I see what you did there :)

Violence doesn't bother me so much as to context of the violence. Same way with anything going on in a movie, violence, sex, drug use, etc. If the gangbanger, prostitute, and junky are portrayed in a negative way and not uplifted then I don't have a problem. That and what others have said about parenting.

16 posted on 07/21/2012 4:42:38 PM PDT by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
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To: cripplecreek

I heard the Aztecs used to watch lots of violent movies...


17 posted on 07/21/2012 4:43:19 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Kaosinla

Don’t forget salt.


18 posted on 07/21/2012 4:44:38 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: InHisService
How do we embrace it? By paying our hard earned money to see movies where people are shot with guns, mutilated, killed and blown up on a regular basis.

If it's legal people can spend their hard earned labor any way they want to.

Are we going to ban movies and video games now because of a nut ball?

19 posted on 07/21/2012 4:45:06 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: cripplecreek

I respectfully disagree that the lack of parenting produces a psychopath. Maybe in some cases, such as some of our serial killers, who were known to be abused. But to blame it on the parents? No.


20 posted on 07/21/2012 4:45:49 PM PDT by InHisService (Jesus is coming back. Are you ready?)
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To: InHisService

I too hate the violence and the language in Hollywood’s offerings. But then again, I, like Rush, just love “Breaking Bad”. It’s not as good as Downton Abbey but it’s still a very engaging series.

Am I crazy?


21 posted on 07/21/2012 4:46:31 PM PDT by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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To: InHisService

I wonder if a case can be made for the killings and other very bad things being connected to the “self esteem”, “empowered children” and removal/criminalization of parental/school corporal punishment generation having come of age?

Look back at when this sort of crap started, and you tend to find the non-disciplined generation just starting to hit its stride.


22 posted on 07/21/2012 4:46:41 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: ClearCase_guy

:-/


23 posted on 07/21/2012 4:47:21 PM PDT by InHisService (Jesus is coming back. Are you ready?)
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To: EGPWS

There are enough moral police on FR that would like to.


24 posted on 07/21/2012 4:48:47 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: MCF

Agree.


25 posted on 07/21/2012 4:48:55 PM PDT by InHisService (Jesus is coming back. Are you ready?)
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To: InHisService

After 25 years of Prosecuting, and reading every study known to God and Man, one has absolutely nothing to do with the other. Zero. Nada. Now I can’t stand movies like that, but we are focusing on a canard if we think it’s the movies kids watch. Studies have made it abundantly clear there is no coloration. It’s how I prosecuted serial killers who were from Christian families. Environment has less effect than you’d think.


26 posted on 07/21/2012 4:50:53 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: EGPWS

I don’t say ban these things. People should make better choices about what they pay to see.


27 posted on 07/21/2012 4:52:14 PM PDT by InHisService (Jesus is coming back. Are you ready?)
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To: InterceptPoint

I’m not into the violence either but I also like Breaking Bad. ( I Call it “Erasing Hal”)


28 posted on 07/21/2012 4:52:54 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: EEGator

This psychopath’s blookwork will comeback w/ high blood pressure (salt) and high sugar (most likely fromm Soda). Add that to the guns and you just made one of Dur Bloomberg’s dreams come true.


29 posted on 07/21/2012 4:53:03 PM PDT by Kaosinla (The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Quit using experience and studies. It’s clearly time to overreact and ban everything.


30 posted on 07/21/2012 4:53:11 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: nerdwithagun

Personally, I find what I call “violence porn” a good deal more disturbing than the mere portrayal of violence.

Violence porn is where the violence is portrayed in such a way as to make it appear interesting and exciting and for the audience to be sucked into identifying with the perpetrator. In particular when it involved identifying with the torment, degradation and humiliation of another person.

BTW, do NOT enter “violence porn” into a search engine. Other people mean something rather different from the way I use the term here. Yikes.


31 posted on 07/21/2012 4:54:40 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The actions of one do not “define us all.” The actions of some, who choose to randomly kill innocent people is a commentary on our society.


32 posted on 07/21/2012 4:54:44 PM PDT by InHisService (Jesus is coming back. Are you ready?)
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To: InHisService
Movies are quite a bit LESS gratuitously violent these days. In the 1980s, say, there were copious amounts of blood in each action movie, and gore was pretty routine. Most action movies were rated R. Family organizations complained, but Hollywood just put them down and complained that no one had the right to censor their "art."

But some time around the 1990s, Hollywood discovered exporting movies to the rest of the world, and the rest of the world didn't like the violence. So Hollywood has learned to tone things down. Today you can hardly ever see blood on the screen, even in a war scene. I have seen the Dark Knight Rises, and there is no blood in the movie.

Exhibit One: 1990 Total Recall

Exhibit Two: 2003 Return of the King

33 posted on 07/21/2012 4:57:36 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: RIghtwardHo
It’s how I prosecuted serial killers who were from Christian families.

You're good, but I spit in the eye of the Galactic Overlord
and have a PhD in both wormholes and cereals. So stuff it.

When you have to talk about how you're "all that".. you're not.

34 posted on 07/21/2012 4:58:16 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo, being wily, pities the fool.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

Perhaps their culture embraces the sanctity of life better than we do here? There could be many reasons. Any Japanese person I have ever met is very respectful. Their children are raised that way with morals and values we haven’t been able to successfully teach our children.


35 posted on 07/21/2012 4:58:50 PM PDT by InHisService (Jesus is coming back. Are you ready?)
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To: InHisService

The market will solve this problem if people just say “No”.


36 posted on 07/21/2012 5:00:01 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: InHisService

It’s sad how many people want to see movies like that.. Its society that created the movies.. the movies didn’t create the society.


37 posted on 07/21/2012 5:00:51 PM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("Give me Liberty or I'll stand up and get it for myself!")
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To: Grimmy

It looks like there were a lot of very young children in that theater for a midnight movie. To me that sounds like some very poor judgement on the part of the parents.

Back in the 80s as a young 20 something I went to the midnight movies on occasion and there were never the young kids there.

I’ve got a 22 year old niece with two kids with different fathers. She’s married to a guy who comes around when she gets her welfare check so he can buy video games. She’ll drag her toddlers out in the middle of the night because they come second to what mom wants. From what I’ve seen, all her friends are the same way.


38 posted on 07/21/2012 5:01:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: InHisService

The movies are a symptom, not the cause.


39 posted on 07/21/2012 5:01:35 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: Vince Ferrer
I have seen the Dark Knight Rises, and there is no blood in the movie.

Correction, he does get a cut on his forehead once.

40 posted on 07/21/2012 5:01:54 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: InHisService

“HORSE HOCKEY!” Quoting the late Col. Potter.
In my life time people have blamed crime and violence on Cars (Bonnie & Clyde); Bikini bathing suits (Rape); TV Intoxication (corrupting youth); Elvis (Promiscuity); Twinkies (teenage murder) Internet (Infidelity), You can name any thing and some nut job will say it contributes to man’s downfall. May I remind you of Ellis Rubin (TV intoxication and others like him.
HORSE HOCKEY, it’s the weakness of mankind!
Ban Duct Tape it has been used to murder people including a sweet little three year old in Florida.


41 posted on 07/21/2012 5:03:16 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Recall/ Impeachment Day, November 6, 2012. FUBO, same for RINOs)
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To: InHisService
I'm actually starting to see this whole "violence in movies and video games" thing this way:

The people that complain about this type of depicted violence only whine when the violence is overt. They never whined and complained when the violence was "sanctioned" violence perpetrated by the State. For example, where was the author of this article when the ATF was incinerating men, women and children at Waco? Where was this author when FBI snipers were executing the Weaver family in Ruby Ridge, Idaho? Where was this author, and all those like her, every time the steroid-addled SWAT teams executed a 3 am no-knock raid on the wrong address and slaughtered a grandma in her own house, or a recently returned combat marine in his own house in front of his wife and small child in Phoenix?

I never see articles spamming the internet about the evils of violence when those things occur. And why? Because, in those cases, the violence was sanctioned by the State, and was therefore OK. We mustn't question it. However, put a shootout in a movie and authors like this go batshit crazy.

Violence, in itself, is a tool. It can be used for good, when employed against bad guys, or it can be used for evil. What people like this author seem to want is a population of completely complacent, passive sheep that would never dream of picking up a weapon, let alone a firearm. Such people would be very easy to rule, and very easy to enslave. These are the same people who go apoplectic when two school kids get in a fist fight. These are the same people who want so badly to ban football, hockey, boxing, and everything else from school sports. They want us fat, lazy, soft, weak, and complacent so that when they come to clap us in chains we won't even have the CONCEPT of resistance.

I say, let violence be taught to every child alive. Let every man teach his kid to be the biggest, baddest, meanest son-of-a-bitch alive, while also teaching him the love of God, so that, when the day comes where Satan throws off his mask, he'll be facing an army, not a grazing herd.
42 posted on 07/21/2012 5:04:18 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: RIghtwardHo

It certainly sounds like with your experience you would know. I still stand by my opinion that movies and have an influence on some people’s actions. Note, I said in the article I wasn’t blaming Hollywood. I think we would all be better off without all the violence constantly portrayed, but of course, that is an individual choice.


43 posted on 07/21/2012 5:06:13 PM PDT by InHisService (Jesus is coming back. Are you ready?)
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To: Vince Ferrer

I don’t think that the international distribution had anything to do with trait. It was the fact that more money could be made off a PG-13 movie than an R. Directors/Studios do everything they can to keep movies a step away from an R rating.

However, violence is still as prevalent and Directors still attempt to shock.

See Saw (series, Hostel (series), P2, The Descent, etc...


44 posted on 07/21/2012 5:07:09 PM PDT by Kaosinla (The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
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To: Johnny_cash

Good idea. Children under 18 should not be seeing violence.


45 posted on 07/21/2012 5:07:24 PM PDT by InHisService (Jesus is coming back. Are you ready?)
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To: RIghtwardHo
I believe it on insanity, but what about overall values and behavior? I would still think if you have lowlife or screwed up parents, you might be more likely to not have the same attitudes on other’s lives and livelihood
46 posted on 07/21/2012 5:08:01 PM PDT by nerdwithagun (I'd rather go gun to gun then knife to knife.)
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To: fr_freak

Good post.


47 posted on 07/21/2012 5:08:14 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Johnny_cash
How about 18 or older to see any films/movies that show any type of gun violence or violence in general. Maybe it would force hollyweird into making more family oriented films.

By all means.

There is no problem so intractable that it cannot be resolved by passing another freaking law.

Every law we have passed so far has not created more problems than it has fixed.

If we pass enough laws, we will eventually live in a Utopia beyond our wildest dreams.

48 posted on 07/21/2012 5:09:00 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: InHisService
Good idea. Children under 18 should not be seeing violence.

Hm, then what we need is a "Mandatory Blindness Act" which would state that all children born in the US must be blinded. I'm sure we'll have the technology to regrow eyes in 20 years, so we can use that on them when they reach 18.

[/sarc]

49 posted on 07/21/2012 5:15:13 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: InHisService
The actions of one do not “define us all.”

They do if you pass draconian laws in response to the actions of some.

50 posted on 07/21/2012 5:15:39 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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