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How Romney could become a great president
original to FR | July 22, 2012 | Peter O'Donnell

Posted on 07/22/2012 3:32:46 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell

This year, America needs to elect a great president, and that will require voting against the incumbent.

Mitt Romney has failed to excite conservatives, by and large, and is suspected of being too centrist, even too liberal, to bring the necessary resolve to the office that might place America back on the right path.

However, alternatives seem few and far between as there is almost no chance of anyone else being nominated for the GOP or elected as a third party candidate. So it's basically a choice between Mitt Romney stepping up to the plate, or waiting for that great president to come along in 2016 -- and that begs the question, does America have four years to sacrifice? Perhaps, things always look worse than they turn out to be, but this may be the one time where things are as bad, if not worse, than they appear.

Here's what I believe Mitt Romney must do to become a great president. I must admit that when asked to choose four topics in posting this article, I was tempted by humour, weird stuff, and miscellaneous. I'm not saying that I think Romney can improve his game this much. But at least we should discuss what he needs to do to attract the support of conservatives.

First, he needs to select the most suitable running mate. I would like to see him select Sarah Palin or possibly Newt Gingrich. America needs to have confidence that there's a substantial person at the side of this potential president, and not just substantial, but with conservative credentials. But some of the choices mentioned widely in the press would not harm the rest of this agenda, because it's mainly in Romney's hands anyway.

Here are four conservative principles that I think Romney should pledge to uphold if elected.

(1) Take all possible steps to balance the budget and to reduce the debt and deficit. As part of that, refrain from further misadventures under the heading of "green economy" and adopt sensible, realistic climate policies (meaning, accept natural variability and move on, no more expensive solar or wind boondoggles, an emphasis on clean air rather than reduced carbon dioxide).

(2) Pledge to stay out of foreign entanglements of all kinds except those which vitally affect the security of the United States. No more U.N. sponsored adventures, no costly ambiguous foreign wars, just intervention to save vital interests of this country.

(3) Preserve the principle of conventional marriage, and uphold the spirit of the First and Second Amendments.

(4) Keep taxes low and stimulate small business while doing nothing to harm the economy.

If Romney pledges to maintain these four key conservative "core values" then he would be on the road to being the great president that these times require. He must also pledge to keep the Mormon faith question a private matter and maintain the separation of church and state.

I believe he should do all this, not to enhance his voter appeal or run up larger vote totals, but to save America from becoming a failed state. The question of border security plays into this as well, and it should be expected that there would be a reversal of trends towards increased illegal immigration. What you do with the ones already here is probably open to different solutions, but these should be in the national interest.

If Romney fails to endorse a strong conservative foundation, then I don't see how he is going to be enough of an improvement over Obama to merit any special consideration from American conservative voters, who would be quite within their rights to park their vote with a more principled candidate. It's up to Romney, does he want to do the minimum (and probably lose like McCain did) or does he want to do the maximum (and probably win like Reagan did against Carter?).

To me, the choice is a no-brainer -- conservative principles can save America from the inevitable crisis that would follow any further liberal misadventures.


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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Stop exporting things.

Uh... I think you mean IMPORTING...



Fight to bring back (all) jobs.

You'd have to have high tariffs placed on imports to offset the low cost wages of foreign workers.

Until then, our money WILL flow to the cheapest supplier of whatever you want created.

Simple econmonics.

41 posted on 07/22/2012 5:26:43 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Armaggedon
Romney seeks God. I will vote for Romney.

Romney is a mormon, he does not seek God, he seeks to BE a god. Big difference. I am not sure I will vote at all for the first time in my life.

42 posted on 07/22/2012 5:27:28 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: NoLibZone
Mitt might know it; but I doubt that he'd DO it...
43 posted on 07/22/2012 5:27:28 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Sorry I mixed up the time-comparisons just a bit so it sounds like I said something else, but you get my point.

Romney is (much) better than Obama at this point in time.

Hopefully Palin is nominated as Romney’s VP. If not, then I’ll vote for Romney but then turn tail the day after his election.

We’ll end up with another candidate, but right now we (HAVE) to unelected Obama first.

Everything else, after that.


44 posted on 07/22/2012 5:29:28 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: Armaggedon; Jeff Head
Romney seeks God.

The MORMON one (of many).

MORMONism's 'god' is NOT the same as Christianity's.


Santorum endorses one-time rival Romney

Thursday, May 10, 2012 12:32:46 AM · 416 of 492
Jeff Head to stpio

Jesus Christ is God’s Son, spiritually and physically. He calls Him Father, He prays to Him. We are to pray to Him,, God the Father, in the name of Jesus Christ, His Son.

God’s voice was heard at Christ’s baptism, coming from Heaven while He was in the water. The Holy Sirit also descended. Three seperate entities/Gods.


45 posted on 07/22/2012 5:29:39 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Peter ODonnell

He’s gotta get there first. Won’t get much help from FReeperland.


46 posted on 07/22/2012 5:30:11 PM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: NoLibZone; cableguymn
Gov. Palin did not give a candid opinion of BAckstabber
Romney. After all, he sent Team Romney to take out the
reputation of HER FAMILY --- her children to throw the
Election of 2008 to Romney's friend Obama.

To the degree Gov. Palin supports the Backstabbing
Liar KNown As Mr. RomneyCARE, it is Stockholm Syndrome.


47 posted on 07/22/2012 5:31:16 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: American in Israel
Do not fall into Obama’s trap. Romney is a saint compared to Obama. Obama will destroy America if we let him beguile us.
48 posted on 07/22/2012 5:32:31 PM PDT by Armaggedon
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
We need to be very afraid of that very strange religion that teaches its members to be clean-living, patriotic, fiscally conservative, charitable, self-reliant, and honest.

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But at least I know what religion he is...

barely!


Mitt either AGREES with the following or he does not.

Has ANYONE put the question to him???



Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
 
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses
, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).
 
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).
 
 
 
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
 
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
 
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
 
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

49 posted on 07/22/2012 5:33:00 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
That happened because we stopped selling things, and buy, and buy, and buy.

No; it became CHEAPER to buy from overseas.

A loooooong time ago, I purchased a Nikon camera thru the PX while in the service; near the end of my 4 years enlistment.

It did not come until AFTER I had been discharged and was back home.

I almost did NOT get it from the Post Office because I had not paid the TARIFF on it (established to 'protect' our manufacturers of cameras).

I had to prove I purchased it thru the system overseas that did NOT require the tariff.

It is the QUALITY of the overseas stuff that FORCED our country to improve OUR stuff, since they could be slack and make chintzier equiptment; knowing that most folks look at price; NOT quality!

You get what you pay for STILL is a good, old adage!


Oh yeah...

The 'tariff' was about $500 at the time - in 1964 dollars!

50 posted on 07/22/2012 5:40:18 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin; Jim Robinson

Gosh, Jim...do you recognize this paragon of virtue??


51 posted on 07/22/2012 5:41:50 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Jim Robinson re Romney: "HeÂ’s a cartoonish fraud. A caricature in progress." Dittos)
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To: RaisingCain
Mittens worships a space alien on planet Kolob who promises, in return, to make Mittens an object of worship.

Oh...

You've been reading stuff from them ANTI-mormon websites again; right??


The Doctrine and Covenants

Section 132

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded 12 July 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, and also the plurality of wives (see History of the Church, 5:501–7). Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.

1–6, Exaltation is gained through the new and everlasting covenant; 7–14, The terms and conditions of that covenant are set forth; 15–20, Celestial marriage and a continuation of the family unit enable men to become gods; 21–25, The strait and narrow way leads to eternal lives; 26–27, The law is given relative to blasphemy against the Holy Ghost; 28–39, Promises of eternal increase and exaltation are made to prophets and Saints in all ages; 40–47, Joseph Smith is given the power to bind and seal on earth and in heaven; 48–50, The Lord seals upon him his exaltation; 51–57, Emma Smith is counseled to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.

 


 

 16Therefore, when they are out of the world they neither marry nor are given in amarriage; but are appointed angels in bheaven, which angels are ministering cservants, to minister for those who are worthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of glory.

 17For these angels did not abide my law; therefore, they cannot be enlarged, but remain separately and singly, without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity; and from henceforth are not gods, but are aangels of God forever and ever.

 18And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife, and make a covenant with her for time and for all eternity, if that acovenant is not by me or by my word, which is my law, and is not sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, through him whom I have anointed and appointed unto this power, then it is not valid neither of force when they are out of the world, because they are not joined by me, saith the Lord, neither by my word; when they are out of the world it cannot be received there, because the angels and the gods are appointed there, by whom they cannot pass; they cannot, therefore, inherit my glory; for my house is a house of order, saith the Lord God.

 19And again, verily I say unto you, if a man amarry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and beverlasting covenant, and it is csealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of dpromise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the ekeys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto them—Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit fthrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depths—then shall it be written in the Lamb’s gBook of Life, that he shall commit no hmurder whereby to shed innocent iblood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their jexaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the kseeds forever and ever.

 20 Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from aeverlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be bgods, because they have call power, and the angels are subject unto them.

 21Verily, verily, I say unto you, except ye abide my alaw ye cannot attain to this glory.

 22For astrait is the gate, and narrow the bway that leadeth unto the exaltation and continuation of the clives, and few there be that find it, because ye receive me not in the world neither do ye know me.

 23But if ye receive me in the world, then shall ye know me, and shall receive your exaltation; that awhere I am ye shall be also.

 24This is aeternal lives—to bknow the only wise and true God, and Jesus Christ, whom he hath csent. I am he. Receive ye, therefore, my law.

 25aBroad is the gate, and wide the way that leadeth to the bdeaths; and many there are that go in thereat, because they creceive me not, neither do they abide in my law.


52 posted on 07/22/2012 5:42:26 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ex-snook
Few corporation pay the tax rate because of loopholes.

THANK GOD!!!

Otherwise the stuff they sell would be evcen MORE expensive!!

Don't you know that businesses do NOT pay taxes at all???

They merely pass the cost on to the customer!!

53 posted on 07/22/2012 5:44:58 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
"You'd have to have high tariffs placed on imports to offset the low cost wages of foreign workers."

We tried that once, It was called the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act. It caused the Great Depression. What else would you suggest?

54 posted on 07/22/2012 5:45:13 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: norwaypinesavage

Well just for comparisons, the situation was pretty much the OPPOSITE then.

We made everything.

Now we import almost everything.


55 posted on 07/22/2012 5:47:23 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: Colofornian
Mitt Romney will confess that he was first "spirit born" on a planet near the star Kolob.


Did We Exist as Spirits in Heaven Before Earth?

“We were first begotten as spirit babies in heaven and then born naturally on earth” (Journal of Discourse, Vol. 4, p. 218).

The plan of the parent gods in Mormonism goes like this: “Life for you did not begin here on earth. You lived before you were born you will live on in the spirit world after your mortal life is ended.” “We all once lived in the presence of God the eternal father. In the world before your were a spirit child of his. With this divine parentage, your destiny, through righteous living, is to become like your Father in Heaven and return to his presence (The Purpose of Life Pamphlet handed out at the Temple on BYU campus).

“In your life before birth, before the earth was created God presented a plan to his children for their advancement. You were free to accept or reject this plan of salvation. Those spirit children who accepted his plan were given the opportunity to live on earth; those who rejected his plan were not privileged to enter mortality” (The Purpose of Life Pamphlet handed out at the Temple on BYU campus).

56 posted on 07/22/2012 5:47:42 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Colofornian
Ya been thinking about becoming a MORMON?

Start Here:


Here is MORMONism's own creed:
 
 

Articles of Faith

The Articles of Faith outline 13 basic points of belief of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
The Prophet Joseph Smith first wrote them in a letter to John Wentworth, a newspaper editor,
in response to Mr. Wentworth's request to know what members of the Church believed.
They were subsequently published in Church periodicals.
They are now regarded as scripture and included in the Pearl of Great Price.

 
THE ARTICLES OF FAITH
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
History of the Church, Vol. 4, pp. 535—541
 
 

  1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
  2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.
  3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
  4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
  5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
  6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
  7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
  8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
  9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
  10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
  11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
  12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
  13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Joseph Smith


 

57 posted on 07/22/2012 5:48:41 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
China also has much lower unemployment.

DUH!!!


58 posted on 07/22/2012 5:51:15 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Peter ODonnell

Romney’s pledges:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU&feature=player_embedded


59 posted on 07/22/2012 5:56:17 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Hopefully Palin is nominated as Romney’s VP.

Palin said in her book 'Going Rogue', that she would never run as VP candidate again. That's been her position for quite some time now.

Besides, you'd be asking the Babe Ruth of right conservative America to play second fiddle to a guy who's barely capable of making a base hit by himself. Hell, he's not even wearing the right jersey.

60 posted on 07/22/2012 8:17:40 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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