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So That This Never Happens Again
Sultan Knish ^ | 7-22-2012 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 07/23/2012 7:42:41 AM PDT by servo1969

The first reaction to the Aurora Massacre was the usual call for making sure that "this never happens again". Everyone from New York City Mayor Bloomberg to author Salman Rushdie to mystery writer Patricia Cornwell called for imposing gun control to insure "this never happens again".

And yet if we were to confiscate every privately owned firearm and outlaw the manufacture of new ones in the country, if we were to forcibly institutionalize anyone suspected of being mentally ill, and if we added naked scanners to movie theaters; we still could not insure that this will never happen again.

And yet Colorado has half the murder rate of Illinois, as adjusted for population. Idaho, Utah, Wyoming and New Hampshire, all full of guns, have far lower murder rates than gun control states like New York, California and Illinois. According to Bloomberg, "If we had fewer guns, we would have a lot fewer murders." But guns are not proportional to murders.

Utah has the second highest gun ownership rate in the country and the eighth lowest homicide rate. Wyoming, the state with the fourth highest gun ownership rate has the fourth lowest homicide rate. Meanwhile New York is 48th in gun ownership, but is the 18th highest in its murder rate.

We escape tragedy by searching for control and this is an obscene gift that we give to liberalism and its counterpart, the police state. Both promise us a better and safer world in exchange for our freedom. After every tragedy they promise us that they can keep it from happening again. They can't. No one can.

The illusion of control attempts to tie James Holmes to some larger issue, whether it's gun control or movie violence. It ignores the banality of individual evil, to make him into some larger monster that we can fight. But sometimes there is no meaning to evil except that it exists. No way to make sense of it or transform into a social crusade. Evil just is.

We can make war on organized or semi-organized enemies. We can bomb Hiroshima, round up the Mafia, launch drone strikes on Al-Qaeda leaders and break up cartels. We cannot however make war on the evil that lurks unexpectedly in human brains.

The edifice of government towers over public life. It is built for fighting systems, groups and "Isms'" and it can be used to ban guns, lock up the mentally ill or launch another one of its incessant public education campaigns. Its ability to stop an individual bent on causing harm to other individuals is highly limited at best.

That is where the illusion of control breaks down. The system can promise to stop gun violence, but it can't stop a man with a gun. All it can do is exploit the tragedy for more power. Only individuals can stop individuals. The only control we can possibly have comes from living in a society where the people do the right thing... and are empowered to do the right thing.

But that is not the society that the gun-controllers and police-staters want to create. The society they want is a place where everyone sits quietly, offers no resistance, contacts the authorities and waits for the accredited branches of the government to do something. A place where everyone knows that if they do something, they may be arrested or sued by the criminal afterward. A place where people are expected to be willing to die, but not fight back.

It takes a great deal of conditioning to break the reflex of leaving things up to the proper authorities. It takes something like seeing two towers fall in burning rubble while sitting on a plane that is clearly headed toward a similar mission. But shortly afterward the proper authorities will be back on the job, reminding everyone to fly planes, submit to some profiling-free groping, and pay no attention to the man with the beard and the itchy underwear chanting "Allah Akbar" to himself in the window seat.

Bloomberg replied to a suggestion that if more people in the theater had guns they might have been able to fight back, with, "To arm everybody and have the wild west all the time is one of the more nonsensical things you can say." And in Bloomberg's world it is nonsensical. By "Wild West", he means anarchy and when you're running a major city that has more employees than some countries have people, the last thing you want is anarchy.

Systems respond to a failure of control by intensifying control. Going the other way is "nonsensical" to them. To Bloomberg the Aurora Massacre was a failure of control, which every "rational" person has to respond to by agreeing that we need more control. Find the "loopholes" and close them. Tighten the noose and this will never happen again... until the next time it does, when it will be met with the same response.

More loopholes, more nooses and more zero tolerance. Make a law, name it after a murdered child and sit back confident that nothing like this can ever happen again because the big book of laws just had another forty pages added to it.

That is the government world, a place where every problem can be solved if you throw enough money, manpower and laws at it. And that world is as imaginary as the comic book world playing on the movie screen during the massacre. That is why gun control is so appealing. Unlike murders, guns can be banned.

Government is not god, though it often seems to aspire to the job. No amount of regulations can exercise complete control over the world around us. All they do is create a hedge maze within which both we and the criminals operate. And criminals will always be better at navigating that hedge maze.

Those who follow the law will always be proportionally more dis-empowered by regulations than those who do not. The flip side of a police state in the anarchy boiling underneath. The more laws there are, the more they are broken. The more control is centralized, the more corrupt the controllers become until the criminals are in power and those who are in power are criminals.

A police state is not a perfectly-controlled society where everyone follows the law or gets locked up. It's thugs with shotguns, tattoos and uniforms, dark sunglasses covering their eyes, collecting bribes from the criminals they are in league with. It's a president with forty mansions to his name and an entire apparatus of party loyalists who feed the bribes up to him. It's not a place that's free of crime; it's a place that's saturated with a crime, where everyone is a criminal from the leaders down to the little boy picking your pocket because otherwise the gang leader who runs the block will beat him.

We can turn America into that place in 10-15 years. All we need to do is spread the failed liberal policies that destroyed the country's greatest cities to the rest of the country. Then try to lock down that anarchy with gun control, SWAT teams and 5 million regulations. Give it time and we'll manage to achieve the current Democratic Party platform of being just like Mexico.

In America the police state has emerged as an attempt to manage the consequence of liberal social policies. Import enough immigrants from lawless countries, put them side-by-side in major cities and it will take a police state to manage the consequences. Destroy values, promote cultural anarchy while running regulatory totalitarianism, and you will need a police state. Destroy manufacturing and keep enough men of all races out of work, and the police state will be needed to manage the violence. Import enough followers of a religion in which terrorism is a mandate, and it will take a police state to maintain even temporary normalcy.

Officially liberals don't like the police state very much, and yet the police state is the only thing that prevents the countries afflicted by their policies from completely melting down. And when faced with a problem, whether it's a man filling in a swamp on his own property or individuals owning firearms, they resort to the power of the police state. Right now they are telling us that if we just had a police state where all the firearms were controlled by the police, this will never happen again.

Adulthood means knowing that this will happen again. That madmen will kill people and it is our responsibility to prevent that not by passing a few laws that invest more power in a police state, but by being aware and taking action when necessary. And knowing that this too may not be enough.

We have some impressive technologies, but those don't make us gods. We have information at our fingertips, but that is not the same thing as control. We do not control the world and we certainly do not control other people. And it is important that we remember that.

The actions of James Holmes are not a reflection on us or on that imaginary village that raises all of us. It is a reflection on him. To forget that by assigning responsibility to the gun or the movie is to abdicate individual responsibility and throw up our hands to the liberal gods of government and the police state to come and save us from ourselves. And they will eagerly answer the call.

The power of the individual to do good comes from a sense of individual responsibility. Take away that responsibility and the country begins to rot. Bury it deep enough and there are only sheep waiting for a wolf.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: aurora; banglist; co; gun

1 posted on 07/23/2012 7:42:45 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

—more—

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2909570/posts


2 posted on 07/23/2012 7:45:25 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: servo1969

There are weekends in Chicago where more people get killed than were killed in this Colorado theater.

Oddly, the exact same people who brought us that weekly slaughter, which has become so commonplace as to no longer be newsworthy, point to this incident as “proof more gun control is needed.”

Public safety is the LAST thing on their minds. They want the entire country to look like South Chicago.


3 posted on 07/23/2012 7:51:04 AM PDT by Fido969
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To: servo1969

(For some reason the link below was selected - and i posted this there) - Time for more coffee...

Emotional responses from liberals never achieve what we expect - only that our freedoms are taken away and our life is control just a bit more by the govt.

Taking away firearms isn’t going to solve this problem. If it wasn’t a gun that did the shooting - then he would have gone out and purchased gos and mixed up Molotov cocktails with it and burned the place down...then what - a ban on fuel???

It will always be something - I say legal Concealed Carry Permits - I have one - and I carry everywhere! The Wild West hasn’t gone anywhere - it’s just more populated!


4 posted on 07/23/2012 7:52:06 AM PDT by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: servo1969
Utah has the second highest gun ownership rate in the country and the eighth lowest homicide rate. Wyoming, the state with the fourth highest gun ownership rate has the fourth lowest homicide rate. Meanwhile New York is 48th in gun ownership, but is the 18th highest in its murder rate.
Anybody have a link to the raw data here, preferably a single table that shows gun ownership and homicide rate side-by-side for all 57 states.
5 posted on 07/23/2012 8:01:27 AM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: rellimpank

I searched for the article title and got nothing.
So I posted it.
Sorry.


6 posted on 07/23/2012 8:02:11 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: servo1969

7 posted on 07/23/2012 8:09:24 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: servo1969

Bloomberg...one of the most breathtakingly anti-liberty politicians of the modern era.


8 posted on 07/23/2012 8:09:52 AM PDT by BearArms
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To: servo1969

It’s called power of a few.


9 posted on 07/23/2012 8:12:38 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: servo1969

To revisit the “Assault Weapons” Ban:

1. The AR-15 was specifically banned for ten years, so the rifle model used in the shooting was illegal from 1984 to 2004. During that time period, this nutcase would have had to choose a rifle with a different name.

2. Also banned were semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

* Folding or telescoping stock
* Pistol grip
* Bayonet mount
* Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
* Grenade launcher (more precisely, a muzzle device which enables the launching or firing of rifle grenades, though this applies only to muzzle mounted grenade launchers and not those which are mounted externally)

In other words, a near clone weapon with exactly the same capabilities as the rifle used in this shooting would have been legal even under the “assault weapons” ban.

3. Also banned were semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:

* Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
* Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
* Barrel shroud that can be used as a hand-hold
* Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
* A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm

I have seen no indication that the pistols purchased or in particular the one used would have violated this part of the ban.

4. Also banned were semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:

* Folding or telescoping stock
* Pistol grip
* Fixed capacity of more than 5 rounds
* Detachable magazine

Again, I see no indication that his shotgun was covered by the ban.

My question: exactly what real purpose do liberals claim the Assault Weapons Ban would serve that liberals are frothing at the mouth to get it reinstated, or is this just a first step toward their dream of gun grabbing with nothing beyond emotion to justify it?


10 posted on 07/23/2012 8:14:03 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: servo1969
If "gun control" happens, it will be one of the times when millions of us (law abiding citizens) will be forced to seriously consider whether we will continue to be law abiding citizens.

...guns have been continuously manufactured since about 1350. There is centuries of proof that criminals and other assorted bad people are not about to turn in their guns just because politicians want them too...

...in light of this, why should people who are inclined to provide protection for themselves be forced to rely in spastic "police protection".

I don't think gun control will go far these days anyway. Most of the pols in Congress are there because it is absolutely the best paying job that they can get. It was proved in '94 that voting "for" gun control is a good way to lose. IMO, it is the same now.

To Members of Congress:

Be sure that you can do without your job if you intend to vote FOR any kind of "gun control".

11 posted on 07/23/2012 8:16:54 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Elections have consequences....)
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To: self

ping


12 posted on 07/23/2012 8:18:16 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: BCW

Amen.

To illustrate: What model Glock did Cain use to kill his brother?


13 posted on 07/23/2012 8:19:53 AM PDT by Tucker39 ( Psa 68:19Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits; even the God of our salvation.KJV)
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Ban Movie Theaters Now!

14 posted on 07/23/2012 8:30:04 AM PDT by Baynative (A man's admiration for absolute government is proportionate to the contempt he feels for others)
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To: servo1969
The world elites want this country gun free for a take over. The muslems do not want us armed so they can kill us.
15 posted on 07/23/2012 8:32:24 AM PDT by mountainlion (I am voting for Sarah after getting screwed again by the DC Thugs.)
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To: servo1969

In other news, there were 41 murders in Chicago last month.


16 posted on 07/23/2012 8:37:10 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: servo1969

It is still safer to go to a movie than to get into a car.


17 posted on 07/23/2012 8:37:59 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Pollster1

Reminds me of the scene in Pleasantville where the mayor lists the colors that may not be used when painting.


18 posted on 07/23/2012 8:39:46 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: servo1969

So much time is spent on trying to figure the motive of devious action…from rational thought how does one formulate reason of irrational action? To understand they conjecture is to stop evil from happening, yet they refuse to destroy the villains they already know…..


19 posted on 07/23/2012 8:40:56 AM PDT by jacheff
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To: servo1969
So That This Never Happens Again

I haven't read the above long article and probably won't, but the above statement is one of the dumbest and most often repeated ever uttered by humans (and especially by politicians) following most any atrocity or tragedy where there was loss of life.

The statement has been uttered after numerous school shootings and other mass murders, but such events continue to happen again.

If politicians and 'leaders' could wean themselves of that preposterous statement, maybe they could engage in clearer thinking about what realistic steps are possible to reduce the probability that such things will happen again.

20 posted on 07/23/2012 8:46:05 AM PDT by Will88
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To: servo1969

How about this:?Wherever at least one hundred people are congregated,there is an off-duty policeman(armed)??


21 posted on 07/23/2012 8:47:09 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: servo1969
We can turn America into that place in 10-15 years.
All we need to do is spread the failed liberal policies that destroyed the country's greatest cities to the rest of the country.
Then try to lock down that anarchy with gun control, SWAT teams and 5 million regulations.
Give it time and we'll manage to achieve the current Democratic Party platform of being just like Mexico.

Ten to fifteen? That's in GOPe years. We'll be there by the end of obama's second term if we stay on demonrat time.

Better idea: Let's give freedom a chance.

Let's go with the Constitution, responsibility and consequences and see how that goes.

I think we'll like it.

22 posted on 07/23/2012 8:58:13 AM PDT by GBA (To understand what is happening to America and why, read The Harbinger by Jonathan Cahn)
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To: servo1969

All the reactions to this tragedy were predictable, whether from the left or the right.


23 posted on 07/23/2012 9:12:09 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: bandleader

Who would pay the overtime, especially on sundays at almost every church service in the country?


24 posted on 07/23/2012 9:15:19 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: servo1969

Ok, so we ban the sale of any guns effective this morning at 11:00 o’clock, or in other words we instantaneously secure the border. So what do we do about the 12 million illegals, er, I mean the 200 million existing guns?


25 posted on 07/23/2012 9:19:42 AM PDT by kushnejz
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To: servo1969

Armed Americans is the way to preclude such happenings...

http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/12175-two-aurora-shootings-one-widely-known-the-other-ignored

of course, we hear little, if anything of such stories as link above.....

Semper Watching!
******


26 posted on 07/23/2012 9:22:16 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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To: BCW

27 posted on 07/23/2012 9:24:17 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Will88
If politicians and 'leaders' could wean themselves of that preposterous statement [i.e. "So That This Never Happens Again"], maybe they could engage in clearer thinking about what realistic steps are possible to reduce the probability that such things will happen again.

They use it because it plays to the People, and thus it pays them to use it.

This fact does not give a warm and fuzzy feeling about "The People" to any of us here.

28 posted on 07/23/2012 9:57:12 AM PDT by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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To: BearArms

He wants to take away our right to own guns while he walks around protected by armed guards. What a hypocritical scumbag.


29 posted on 07/23/2012 10:52:44 AM PDT by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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