Posted on 08/07/2012 11:27:31 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
Oregon is indeed a strange place. Somewhere George Orwell is smiling and wondering how his “1984” became a Democrat policy SOP. The morally hollow Democrats who run Oregon have descended to a level of insane devotion to government that would make Karl Marx swell with pride.
Two current stories from Oregon give us an idea of the depravity we face when we make the mistake of allowing Democrats to run our lives. In the first story Gary Harrington, an Eagle Point Oregon man has been convicted of the crime of collecting rain water on his own property.
He was sentenced to serve 30 days in jail and pay a $1,500 fine for violating an Oregon law that deems all water to be publically owned including snow runoff and rainwater that rolls off the roof of a privately owned building.
Democrat Oregon Governor John Kitzhaber is so determined to see Harrington punished he refuses to even answer questions about his case. Harrington will start serving his sentence tomorrow.
On the other hand there is a story from Oregon that makes one wonder what kind of people would elect a morally sick man like Kitzhaber.
The Democrat Governor who will send Harrington to jail has forced a death row murderer who wants to die to accept a reprieve of his sentence. The man, Gary D. Haugen, has been convicted first of murdering his girlfriend’s mother and then killing another inmate while in prison.
What makes this all worse Haugen the murderer has waived any further appeals he may have available to him and actually brought a law suit against Kitzhaber to nullify his unwanted and unrequested reprieve.
As a liberal Democrat Kitzhaber, of course, believes he knows better than Haugen even in questions of his own life…
(Excerpt) Read more at coachisright.com ...
All these extreme liberals have one thing in common — they are dhimmicraps.
I agree that the rainwater sentence is simply an injustice, but is it really the governor’s issue?
The death penalty thing is just bizzare, especially considering that Oregon has laws protecting assisted suicide.
Better keep up with your tax payments if you don't want to die of thirst.
Has ownership of air in Oregon been determined yet?
Has ownership of air in Oregon been determined yet?
Filling your SCUBA tank will be air hording. Private water wells will be regulated and metered - and taxed. (Latter is probably likely.)
Alice’s little wonderland.
Air is still in conference.
Fungus and mold are protected under the endangered species rules.
Before you put such crap on FR, you better make sure you have your facts straight!
This is not about collecting rainwater.
Gary Harrignton has three dams on his property for which he has NO permits - something which is illegal in most states in the USA.
This is NOT a case of catching rainwater off of a roof and storying it; this is a serious violation of statutory code impacting public safety.
Harrington insists that his reservoirs are for fire suppression purposes. That’s fine, but he still must have permits and have allowed inspection and approval during construction of said dams.
If those dams collapse and people die in the resulting flood, are you still going to defend Gary Harrington?
This isn’t about his rights to collect rainwater; it is about the rule of law.
Is it illegal in Oregon to collect rainwater falling off of your roof?
“Is it illegal in Oregon to collect rainwater falling off of your roof?”
No.
According to authorities in Oregon, you can collect rainwater off of artificial surfaces, such as a roof, and collect it.
http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120805/NEWS/208050318
Gary Harrington is in trouble because he didn’t get permits to construct reservoirs or to store water.
He has been to court three times and lost three times.
Otherwise it's nobody's dam business because it's his damn dam and his dam water, and if he wants to dam it then he's entitled to dam it, damn it, as well as collect his dam rainwater.
Very clever use of dam.
There are very few places I know of that allow anyone to build large structures on their property without permits, much less store multiple square acres of water behind those structures.
You say it is no one’s busness other than the land owner, but Oregon and Washington States have subduction earthquakes that register 9 or higher when they cut loose. I’m talking about real shakers that have, in the past, lowered the coastline some 15 to 20 feet.
Pity the people living downhill from his dam dams.
Actually, I did note that there could be a legitimate cause for the state to reasonably intervene if there was a public safety issue involved. As far as I know, this could very well be the case.
Regardless of the facts of this particular instance, though, I've always felt that, in the American Spirit, government interference with people's private lives and property can only be justified when there is a compelling reason to do so.
If there is such a reason, then I could sympathize with the state in this case. Having said that, I still don't think deferring to the state should ever be the usual state of affairs. Quite the opposite.
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