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China And Russia Are Ruthlessly Cutting The Legs Out From Under The U.S. Dollar
The Economic Collapse ^ | September 11, 2012 | The Economic Collapse

Posted on 09/12/2012 9:19:48 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The mainstream media in the United States is almost totally ignoring one of the most important trends in global economics. This trend is going to cause the value of the U.S. dollar to fall dramatically and it is going to cause the cost of living in the United States to go way up. Right now, the U.S. dollar is the primary reserve currency of the world. Even though that status has been chipped away at in recent years, U.S. dollars still make up more than 60 percent of all foreign currency reserves in the world. Most international trade (including the buying and selling of oil) is conducted in U.S. dollars, and this gives the United States a tremendous economic advantage. Since so much trade is done in dollars, there is a constant demand for more dollars all over the globe from countries that need them for trading purposes. So the Federal Reserve is able to flood our financial system with dollars without it causing a tremendous amount of inflation because the rest of the world ends up soaking up a lot of those dollars. But now that is changing. China and Russia have been spearheading a movement to shift away from using the U.S. dollar in international trade. At the moment, the shift is happening gradually, but at some point a tipping point will come (for example if Saudi Arabia were to declare that it will no longer take U.S. dollars for oil) and the entire global financial system is going to change. When that tipping point comes the global demand for U.S. dollars is going to absolutely plummet and nightmarish inflation will come to the United States. If such a scenario sounds far out to you, then you have not been paying attention...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012; centralbanks; china; collapse; debt; deficit; democrats; depression; dollar; economy; euro; germany; gold; hoarding; hyperinflation; inflation; oil; petrodollars; preppers; prosperity; recession; renminbi; reservecurrency; russia; treasuries; yuan
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To: chris37

With what? China is older than the US. Is China really going to risk their sons and daughters that they cannot afford to lose?


21 posted on 09/13/2012 2:03:11 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The inflation (devaluation) is coming but it is not Russia and China causing it. Their actions if real, are to protect their own economic interests. The devaluation is the unstated goal of the American government. It has been underway for some time and will continue until the debt is reduced to a manageable level.

What is coming is a gold standard. The change will probably be introduced by nations not America nor Europe. They will simply demand settlement for trade debt in gold. The International Bank of Settlements will settle the national accounts in gold and things will go on. Who? I suspect the nations will be East Of Suez........ the GCC, Maylasia, Indonesia, Singapore, maybe China and India, probably Russia.

Although the transactions will be settled on International Bank of Settlements ledgers in Switzerland, payment might actually be made in New York or London. The physical gold is merely moved from one room to another in the US Federal Reserve vault in New York.

Eventually America and Europe will revert to gold as well. There will be no real choice in the matter. It will just happen.


22 posted on 09/13/2012 5:03:13 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Navy Patriot

-——There are only two stable currencies that could replace the dollar——

Nope, there is another, better and universally accepted medium of exchange........ gold.

Currency as a medium of international trade is anomaly. Gold is the norm. World trade will revert to the norm for settlement between banks negotiating the international transactions .


23 posted on 09/13/2012 5:10:38 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Navy Patriot
There are only two stable currencies that could replace the dollar, the yuan and ruble.

The jury is out on the yuan, but the ruble has a long history of instability. Why should this time be different? Czarist bonds, anyone?

That said, our government has taken advantage of the dollar's reserve role time and time again. In fact, our government seems to like a weak dollar, because it makes the value of US wages go down, and therefore makes US manufacturing more competitive.

Wouldn't a strong dollar, weak union policy be a better way to go about that than our current weak dollar, strong union stance? Our wages are relatively high compared to the rest of the world because we carry a lot of dead weight in the form of unionism and regulation. Our workers have enough capital to be very productive, but they can't overcome that deadweight without help. A deliberately weak dollar is not the right way to provide that.

24 posted on 09/13/2012 5:14:29 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: bert
there is another, better and universally accepted medium of exchange........ gold.

True, and both Russia and China have been acquiring large stocks of gold, I suspect to declare a gold standard for their currencies.

The effectiveness of this will be if Russia and/or China are perceived trustworthy by the rest of the world.

The US (government) has been going the wrong direction (as opposed to Russia and China) in monetary and debt policy for two decades, and is becoming perceived as untrustworty.

Should Russia and China back their currency and be accepted as trustworthy, there will be foundational changes in world economic activity.

25 posted on 09/13/2012 7:55:33 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Wouldn't a strong dollar, weak union policy be a better way to go about that than our current weak dollar, strong union stance? Our wages are relatively high compared to the rest of the world because we carry a lot of dead weight in the form of unionism and regulation. Our workers have enough capital to be very productive, but they can't overcome that deadweight without help. A deliberately weak dollar is not the right way to provide that.

All that is common sense, compatible with natural economic law, and not allowed, currently, in the US.

Nations can and do grow out of historic currency instability (we did), and China (very stable and very undervalued) and Russia (growing stability over the last decade and winning over the Soros-Clinton attacks) have been moving strongly in the right direction.

26 posted on 09/13/2012 8:16:39 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: JCBreckenridge

With any method of attack available.

Refer to the title of this thread if you need an idea.


27 posted on 09/13/2012 8:19:29 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: ckilmer
The second problem with this analysis is that the US will become energy independent in less than a decade. This fact has already reverberated across the world. This fact, has already put a floor under the dollar.

Only if Romney gets it. Obama wants to keep us dependent, while building up the off-shore drilling in Mexico and Brazil.
28 posted on 09/13/2012 8:23:49 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: chris37

Compared to Obama’s deficit spending....


29 posted on 09/13/2012 8:36:18 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Dollar should do just fine with no legs at all.

I wonder what would happen if Russia, China, various muzzy homo countries, and various south american communists countries all united and attacked us right now today...

Wait, wait I know!

Isreal would protect us and our gay and lesbian military would kick all their asses to kingdom come.

We are so ****ed.


30 posted on 09/13/2012 8:49:50 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37

Obama’s deficit spending has done more to damage the dollar than any external influences.


31 posted on 09/13/2012 10:08:14 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Yes, I know.

My point is what if our enemies decided to help us in our self destruction...


32 posted on 09/13/2012 10:12:23 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Think the "Fall of the Roman Empire..." That's our current track unless something dramatic happens to change our country's present direction.

And, the will of the people being what it apparently is - after many years of amoral, godless, self-oriented and/or misguided leadership - we're not about to change that foolish course in any meaningful way until we're forced to do so.

Sadly.

33 posted on 09/13/2012 10:04:35 PM PDT by JustTheTruth
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Guess that’s why there are so many shops buying gold - it goes right out of the U.S. making America a poorer place.


34 posted on 09/15/2012 2:42:27 PM PDT by Kenny500c
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