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EGYPT IS CRUCIFYING CHRISTIANS
NYTIMES; NTEB | 09/29/2012 | NYTIMES; NTEB;

Posted on 09/28/2012 9:36:55 PM PDT by RichSr

I will call my Congressman and both my senators and every forum I can find to tell them to stop any and all aid to the Middle East because Egypt is CRUCIFYING Christians; they strip them then nail them to trees then crucify them as they did the Christ! I am not ashamed to say I am a Christian.

Obama has no time to meet with Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu - BUT - he has $450,000,000.00 to give to the Muslim Brotherhood?? The aid is part of the $1 billion in assistance that the Obama administration has pledged to Egypt to bolster its transition to democracy after the overthrow last year of the former president, Hosni Mubarak. Its fate, however, was clouded by concerns over the new government’s policies and, more recently, the protests that damaged the American Embassy in Cairo. The United States Agency for International Development notified Congress of the cash infusion on Friday morning during the pre-election recess, promptly igniting a smoldering debate over foreign aid and the administration’s handling of crises in the Islamic world. An influential Republican lawmaker, Representative Kay Granger of Texas, immediately announced that she would use her position as chairwoman of the House appropriations subcommittee overseeing foreign aid to block the distribution of the money. She said the American relationship with Egypt “has never been under more scrutiny” than it is in the wake of the election of President Mohamed Morsi, a former leader of the Muslim Brotherhood. “I am not convinced of the urgent need for this assistance and I cannot support it at this time,” Ms. Granger said in a statement that her office issued even before the administration announced the package. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, speaking at a meeting of the Group of 8 nations in New York, said on Friday that the world needed to do more to support the governments that have emerged from the Arab Spring uprisings, including those in Egypt, Libya and Tunisia. “The recent riots and protests throughout the region have brought the challenge of transition into sharp relief,” Mrs. Clinton said, without mentioning the assistance to Egypt specifically. “Extremists are clearly determined to hijack these wars and revolutions to further their agendas and ideology, so our partnership must empower those who would see their nations emerge as true democracies.” The debate comes as the issue of foreign aid in general made an unexpected appearance in the presidential campaign. In a speech in New York on Tuesday, Mr. Obama’s Republican challenger, Mitt Romney, called for revamping assistance to focus more on investments in the private sector than on direct aid — a shift administration officials have said is under way. While Mr. Romney did not address aid to Egypt directly, he cited Mr. Morsi’s membership in the Muslim Brotherhood as one of the alarming developments in the Middle East, along with the war in Syria, Iran’s pursuit of nuclear weapons and the killing of the American ambassador to Libya. “A temporary aid package can jolt an economy,” he said. “It can fund some projects. It can pay some bills. It can employ some people some of the time. But it can’t sustain an economy — not for long. It can’t pull the whole cart, because at some point the money runs out.” The $1 billion in aid, announced by Mr. Obama in May 2011, was initially intended to relieve Egypt’s debts to the United States, though negotiations stalled during the country’s turbulent transition from military rule to the election of Mr. Morsi this summer. In recent weeks, negotiations over the assistance picked up pace, and the administration decided to provide $450 million instead, including $190 million immediately, because the country’s economic crisis has become acute, with an estimated budget shortfall of $12 billion. The assistance outlined in letters to Congress on Friday would be contingent on Egypt’s setting in motion economic and budgetary changes that the International Monetary Fund is now negotiating as part of a $4.8 billion loan. The administration has also thrown its support behind that loan, and officials said they hoped it would be completed before the end of the year. A $260 million infusion would come when the much larger loan is completed, according to officials familiar with the package. By law, all assistance to Egypt is contingent on the country’s meeting certain requirements, including adherence to basic democratic values and the Camp David peace treaty with Israel. The protests over an anti-Muslim video and the storming of the American Embassy in Cairo on Sept. 11 came even as senior White House and State Department officials led a large business delegation to promote economic assistance and trade in Egypt. Mr. Morsi’s slow response to the protests raised concerns in Washington, although administration officials later cited improved cooperation over the embassy’s security. The $1 billion in assistance has been cobbled together from funds already appropriated by Congress, but the administration is required to notify lawmakers of its intention to release any of the funds. Ms. Granger presumably can put a hold on that release and pursue legislation to reverse the appropriation. Mrs. Clinton lobbied lawmakers last week during closed-door briefings that focused on the tumult across the region, including the attack at the American diplomatic mission in Libya that killed Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans. In addition to the $1 billion in assistance, the administration is working with Egypt to provide $375 million in financing and loan guarantees for American financiers who invest in Egypt and a $60 million investment fund for Egyptian businesses. All of that comes on top of $1.3 billion in military aid that the United States provides Egypt each year. A senior State Department official said that the administration would consult with members of Congress in the days ahead “to make the case that this budget support is firmly in U.S. interests in seeing peace, stability and democracy in Egypt and the wider neighborhood.” source - NY Times NTEB News Desk | September 29, 2012 at 7:04 am | Tags: 450 million, egypt, Morsi, Muslim Brotherhood, obama, United States Agency for International Development | Categories: Islam, Islamic Terrorism, Israel, Middle East, Muslim Brotherhood, Obama | URL: http://wp.me/p1kFP6-2Z2


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion
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1 posted on 09/28/2012 9:37:02 PM PDT by RichSr
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To: RichSr
<p> symbols are your friend.
2 posted on 09/28/2012 9:44:44 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: RichSr

Are you sure this is from the New York Times???


3 posted on 09/28/2012 9:45:53 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: grey_whiskers; RichSr

I will call my Congressman and both my senators and every forum I can find to tell them to stop any and all aid to the Middle East because Egypt is CRUCIFYING Christians; they strip them then nail them to trees then crucify them as they did the Christ! I am not ashamed to say I am a Christian.

Obama has no time to meet with Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu - BUT - he has $450,000,000.00 to give to the Muslim Brotherhood?? The aid is part of the $1 billion in assistance that the Obama administration has pledged to Egypt to bolster its transition to democracy after the overthrow last year of the former president, Hosni Mubarak.

Its fate, however, was clouded by concerns over the new government’s policies and, more recently, the protests that damaged the American Embassy in Cairo. The United States Agency for International Development notified Congress of the cash infusion on Friday morning during the pre-election recess, promptly igniting a smoldering debate over foreign aid and the administration’s handling of crises in the Islamic world.

An influential Republican lawmaker, Representative Kay Granger of Texas, immediately announced that she would use her position as chairwoman of the House appropriations subcommittee overseeing foreign aid to block the distribution of the money. She said the American relationship with Egypt “has never been under more scrutiny” than it is in the wake of the election of President Mohamed Morsi, a former leader of the Muslim Brotherhood. “I am not convinced of the urgent need for this assistance and I cannot support it at this time,” Ms. Granger said in a statement that her office issued even before the administration announced the package.

Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, speaking at a meeting of the Group of 8 nations in New York, said on Friday that the world needed to do more to support the governments that have emerged from the Arab Spring uprisings, including those in Egypt, Libya and Tunisia. “The recent riots and protests throughout the region have brought the challenge of transition into sharp relief,” Mrs. Clinton said, without mentioning the assistance to Egypt specifically. “Extremists are clearly determined to hijack these wars and revolutions to further their agendas and ideology, so our partnership must empower those who would see their nations emerge as true democracies.”

The debate comes as the issue of foreign aid in general made an unexpected appearance in the presidential campaign. In a speech in New York on Tuesday, Mr. Obama’s Republican challenger, Mitt Romney, called for revamping assistance to focus more on investments in the private sector than on direct aid — a shift administration officials have said is under way. While Mr. Romney did not address aid to Egypt directly, he cited Mr. Morsi’s membership in the Muslim Brotherhood as one of the alarming developments in the Middle East, along with the war in Syria, Iran’s pursuit of nuclear weapons and the killing of the American ambassador to Libya.

“A temporary aid package can jolt an economy,” he said. “It can fund some projects. It can pay some bills. It can employ some people some of the time. But it can’t sustain an economy — not for long. It can’t pull the whole cart, because at some point the money runs out.”

The $1 billion in aid, announced by Mr. Obama in May 2011, was initially intended to relieve Egypt’s debts to the United States, though negotiations stalled during the country’s turbulent transition from military rule to the election of Mr. Morsi this summer. In recent weeks, negotiations over the assistance picked up pace, and the administration decided to provide $450 million instead, including $190 million immediately, because the country’s economic crisis has become acute, with an estimated budget shortfall of $12 billion.

The assistance outlined in letters to Congress on Friday would be contingent on Egypt’s setting in motion economic and budgetary changes that the International Monetary Fund is now negotiating as part of a $4.8 billion loan. The administration has also thrown its support behind that loan, and officials said they hoped it would be completed before the end of the year. A $260 million infusion would come when the much larger loan is completed, according to officials familiar with the package.

By law, all assistance to Egypt is contingent on the country’s meeting certain requirements, including adherence to basic democratic values and the Camp David peace treaty with Israel. The protests over an anti-Muslim video and the storming of the American Embassy in Cairo on Sept. 11 came even as senior White House and State Department officials led a large business delegation to promote economic assistance and trade in Egypt. Mr. Morsi’s slow response to the protests raised concerns in Washington, although administration officials later cited improved cooperation over the embassy’s security.

The $1 billion in assistance has been cobbled together from funds already appropriated by Congress, but the administration is required to notify lawmakers of its intention to release any of the funds. Ms. Granger presumably can put a hold on that release and pursue legislation to reverse the appropriation. Mrs. Clinton lobbied lawmakers last week during closed-door briefings that focused on the tumult across the region, including the attack at the American diplomatic mission in Libya that killed Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens and three other Americans.

In addition to the $1 billion in assistance, the administration is working with Egypt to provide $375 million in financing and loan guarantees for American financiers who invest in Egypt and a $60 million investment fund for Egyptian businesses. All of that comes on top of $1.3 billion in military aid that the United States provides Egypt each year.

A senior State Department official said that the administration would consult with members of Congress in the days ahead “to make the case that this budget support is firmly in U.S. interests in seeing peace, stability and democracy in Egypt and the wider neighborhood.”

source - NY Times NTEB News Desk | September 29, 2012 at 7:04 am | Tags: 450 million, egypt, Morsi, Muslim Brotherhood, obama, United States Agency for International Development | Categories: Islam, Islamic Terrorism, Israel, Middle East, Muslim Brotherhood, Obama | URL: http://wp.me/p1kFP6-2Z2


4 posted on 09/28/2012 9:50:06 PM PDT by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: 21twelve
a true friend to edit this post! I was going to help out too and saw that you had taken it on.....Freepers....caring for one another!!

God HELP us, when we are sending MILLIONS to a Country that crucify's believers!

5 posted on 09/28/2012 10:10:38 PM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: RichSr

6 posted on 09/28/2012 10:19:18 PM PDT by R AND R IN 2012
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To: RichSr

this is what our military fought for?


7 posted on 09/28/2012 10:22:31 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: television is just wrong

Is it time yet?

Time to play Cowboys and Muzzies?

Pound Sand?

Fuse Sand?

This nation is not dead or subjected yet.

TX is certainly not subjected.


8 posted on 09/28/2012 10:49:00 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: AndyTheBear

Yeah... I think I smell something.


9 posted on 09/28/2012 11:23:39 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: RichSr
Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, speaking at a meeting of the Group of 8 nations in New York, said on Friday that the world needed to do more to support the governments that have emerged from the Arab Spring uprisings, including those in Egypt, Libya and Tunisia. “The recent riots and protests throughout the region have brought the challenge of transition into sharp relief,” Mrs. Clinton said, without mentioning the assistance to Egypt specifically. “Extremists are clearly determined to hijack these wars and revolutions to further their agendas and ideology, so our partnership must empower those who would see their nations emerge as true democracies.”

Of course she did!

Huma Abedin (Weiner), hillary's personal assistant's mother is a member of the Muslim Sisterhood, as is the wife of the new president of Egypt.

When the US supported the regime changes in Egypt and Libya, I said the MB was going to come out on top, and now they're using their US connections cashing in. (Probably with a little baksheesh flowing the other way, too.)

10 posted on 09/29/2012 1:05:17 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: 21twelve
A senior State Department official said that the administration would consult with members of Congress in the days ahead “to make the case that this budget support is firmly in U.S. interests in seeing peace, stability and democracy in Egypt and the wider neighborhood.”

There was stability in the region. Mubarak and Khadaffi may not have been everyone's favorite people, but they kept the various elements in check. They were behaving, more or less, as well as could be expected. Now, the Muslim Brotherhood is a wild card, and the region is anything but stable.

11 posted on 09/29/2012 1:08:54 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: RichSr

Crucifixions were PLANNED by Obama and Egyptian
radicals, including Morsi.

There is NO Shame in the DNC as it also supports
slavery worldwide.


12 posted on 09/29/2012 4:35:03 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Vi veri veniversum vivus vici)
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To: RichSr

Our government and its branch in the media don’t care. They’re CHRISTIANS! CHRISTIANS are being murdered!

But when someone posts a video that criticizes their savage friends, THAT’S something they get outraged over!


13 posted on 09/29/2012 6:06:03 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Sheep have 2 speeds: graze and stampede.)
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To: I want the USA back

I don’t think we’ll see any videos of that.


14 posted on 09/29/2012 7:10:40 AM PDT by RichSr (Jesus saves for free.)
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To: AndyTheBear

That is the other heading besides NTEB


15 posted on 09/29/2012 7:12:20 AM PDT by RichSr (Jesus saves for free.)
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To: grey_whiskers
Now what?
16 posted on 09/29/2012 7:13:49 AM PDT by RichSr (Jesus saves for free.)
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To: AndyTheBear

There is a link on the bottom


17 posted on 09/29/2012 7:15:11 AM PDT by RichSr (Jesus saves for free.)
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To: pollywog

Are you calling your representatives and senators?
Call; e-mail and jam up the phones and networks


18 posted on 09/29/2012 7:18:29 AM PDT by RichSr (Jesus saves for free.)
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To: R AND R IN 2012

One will chase How many?
and ten will chase how many more?

Where is our faith?
I am just hoping we have not started too late to sek HIS face.


19 posted on 09/29/2012 7:21:17 AM PDT by RichSr (Jesus saves for free.)
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To: television is just wrong

I don’t think so.
I am afraid our “representatives” are not representing on the majority


20 posted on 09/29/2012 7:23:09 AM PDT by RichSr (Jesus saves for free.)
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To: Texas Fossil

I pray the Christians are still awake.

They started our revolution, and the war ‘tween the states


21 posted on 09/29/2012 7:26:06 AM PDT by RichSr (Jesus saves for free.)
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To: RichSr

Agreed.


22 posted on 09/29/2012 7:32:18 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: 21twelve

I read these too;
when I see all that is happening, I go back to my Bible.
Everything is in place.
I am waiting to hear that “COME UP HERE”!

Then that song “I’LL SEE YOU IN THE RAPTURE”


23 posted on 09/29/2012 7:35:11 AM PDT by RichSr (Jesus saves for free.)
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To: RichSr; 21twelve
I'll read it when I'm done running errands today.

Cheers!

24 posted on 09/29/2012 8:10:08 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: RichSr

Prez Romney’s first act should be to allow the immediate immigration of ALL of the oppressed Christians in the MENA.

They can live in those FEMA camps until they get jobs, education, etc.

We would have millions of new voters who really understand islam and at least two divisions of Arabic speaking infantry.

Get the Christians OUT and then we can fight the war with the caliphate.


25 posted on 09/29/2012 6:01:04 PM PDT by darth
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To: RichSr
Muslims and Islam have genocided Christians all throughout history( look at the Armenian genocide as just one example).

This is what Islam has in store for all of us non Islamics. And this POS Obama and Muslims defend Islam and are so mad because someone makes a video which tells the truth about Islam. this cult called Islam should be exposed.

26 posted on 09/29/2012 6:06:21 PM PDT by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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To: RichSr

Islam will genocide all of us. Look at what they did to the Christian Armenians in 1915.


27 posted on 09/29/2012 6:08:18 PM PDT by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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To: Democrat_media

09/11/2012 was planned and rehersed long before this year; it will probably be an annual event (if the Muslims have any choice)


28 posted on 09/30/2012 3:04:44 PM PDT by RichSr (Jesus saves for free.)
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