Posted on 10/14/2012 7:23:07 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
While it has been said about every election since 2000, this really is THE MOST IMPORTANT election in our lives and the history of our nation.
Americans will vote for or against the candidates for President for a variety of reasons.
Catholics and like- minded Christians who will vote based strictly on economic reasons would do well by considering why they should make Christian values the ultimate factor in deciding factor in how they will vote.
True Christianity requires you to yield and put your opinion aside in certain areas of life.
Christian doctrine on fundamentals such as the sanctity of life and marriage are not negotiable in a conflict between Church doctrine and a true Christian’s “feelings.”
Reshaping and reinventing positions on the rectitude of aborting the life of an unborn child and/or the value of Gay “marriage” is not acceptable for those who wish to maintain a strong and healthy relationship with their God and His Church.
Yielding one’s own “feelings and opinions” on these issues must be the guiding principle for how the genuine Christian ought to vote. Voting for a Party whose values are antithetical to the laws of God is a trap to avoid.
It makes little difference that the candidates in a particular election will fill a minor post that is not concerned with abortion or marriage.
If that candidate’s Party is in open rebellion against God and His laws it is imperative that a genuine Christian not vote for anyone in that Party.
Voting for a candidate that supports Gay “marriage” and or abortion on the grounds that he/she will do “so much more good in other areas” is an empty argument.
It supposes that the moral fiber of a society is negotiable and not really important...
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Still, I have doubts. But after much consideration, and learning more about Romney, I believe he will listen to God and make no mistake that God will get his attention.
I also fall back to part of a message that John sent to the church of Thyatira:
Rev:2-24 Now I say to the rest of you in Thyatira, to you who do not hold to her teaching and have not learned Satan’s so-called deep secrets, ‘I will not impose any other burden on you, 25 except to hold on to what you have until I come.
If Romney as president fulfills the need to "hold on to what we have", so be it...
obama has no Catholic, Christian or conservative values, how anyone who claims to be these and vote for obama really needs to examine their heart and mind.
Romney is tougher. He supports many liberal issues, like abortion (although he uses qualifiers like rape, incest and health of the mother) but maybe good for the country in general.
So what do Catholics, Christians, and conservatives do?
It will be a very difficult decision for millions of people.
Did you read what I wrote?
Your reply makes little sense based on what I said.
For your edification I will repeat it:
obama has no Catholic, Christian or conservative values, how anyone who claims to be these and vote for obama really needs to examine their heart and mind.
Romney is tougher. He supports many liberal issues, like abortion (although he uses qualifiers like rape, incest and health of the mother) but maybe good for the country in general.
So what do Catholics, Christians, and conservatives do?
It will be a very difficult decision for millions of people.
Yes, vote for the gay marriage enacting, pro abortion, architect of public funded healthcare that forces us to pay for contraception or Obama.
silly. A bunch of us were campaigning yesterday. none of us voted. and most of us will not vote for the candidate we campaigned for. Why? (think about it)
Voting is not a sacrament. It is a trivial civic matter.
“Campaigning? I wash my hands of it. I vote.” - Pontius Pilate
nobody cares who ya vote for for Prez if yu live in CA or NY.
Do something useful. Get somebody elected. Like state House.
Huh?
I never said one way or the other in this post about who I am voting for, I said it would be a difficult decision for Catholics, Christians and conservatives as to whether to vote for Romney.
It is not a difficult decision to not vote for obama and I wondered why some Catholics, Christians and conservatives vote for him.
how should it be a difficult decision when it is trivial silliness? if I get a parking ticket, is it a great theological crisis whether I mail in the payment on MON or TUES?
voting is a trivial civic matter and yer vote don’t count for nothing. If it were a big deal, people would be moving to OH in droves to get on the voter rolls where 45,000 people could decide the whole election.
I live in CT and my vote counts for nuttin’. got it?
where did this concept begin that your vote is a sacred thing, practically a sacrament?
I am not a legislator, so I don’t get a vote.
We live in a representative democracy.
Unfortunately we don’t get much representation these days, if ever.
There is only one wasted vote, and that is the one not cast.
“We live in a representative democracy”
you only live in a representative democracy if you use the democratic process to elect somebody to represent you. If somebody just votes for people who lose bigtime, they aren’t participating in the democracy and have no representation.
And because most incumbents are easily re-elected, most challengers lose big-time.
There is only one wasted vote and that is the one not cast.
Voting for the loser? Who would that be?
Until the votes are counted, you have know idea who has won or lost.
Like it or not the majority chooses the representative at the election.
So you vote for who you want, as I will vote for who I want.
“you only live in a representative democracy if you use the democratic process to elect somebody to represent you. If somebody just votes for people who lose bigtime, they aren’t participating in the democracy and have no representation.”
So we should vote for the person who’s going to lose just because they will lose less?
Representative democracy is about voting for the person that is closest to what you believe. If everyone does this - then democracy will actually represent the will of the people.
Democracy is about who is in power. Nancy Pelosi never represented the majority of anybody. Yet she had full control over the House agenda for several years.
In a DEM House district, there are 400,000 adults. Yet 20,000 votes is enough to win a primary and control the seat. There is no consensus. It is all about controlling the majority party.
The minority party voters have no influence. The people drawing the lines of the districts have more influence than anybody.
eye roll
I would argue that Nancy Pelosi is quite representative of San Francisco and her particular district.
Nancy Pelosi represents the left wing of the DEM party, not the voters in her district. The DEM party keeps her in power, not her voters.
If somebody ran against her in a primary, most of her support would come from the party: organizations not based in her district.
We live in a Party-ocracy, not a Democracy. Try running for office without the support of a party and see how far you get, even if you run in a primary.
nope, the folks I know here haven’t given up. They continue to work to elect conservatives to the state House. There are at least half dozen in the legislature now because of their efforts.
They do not spend any time discussing their vote, because they know it is trivia.
Ya see, the people I have campaigned for this year, I don’t live in their district so I cannot vote for them. Don’t matter, we can still get the gal elected.
What we are opposing is the philosophy of some Catholics:
“I am Pro-Life and I vote. (And that is all that I do.)”
So you voted. What do ya want, a Purple Heart?
You win, I don’t even know what you are talking about anymore.
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