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1 posted on 11/06/2012 5:34:23 AM PST by scottfactor
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Only liberals would justify the thought process that calls President Bush a ‘war criminal’ for a legal, congress approved war, and yet not bat an eye when Obama ousts a government and has a world leader killed based solely on his word.


2 posted on 11/06/2012 5:39:59 AM PST by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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Other People’s Money has run out. The USA is tens of trillions of dollars in debt (counting unfunded liabilities such as Social Security), and if the other nations want to pull our credit, there will be another Great Depression.

People such as this relative will not get a government check when there is no more money to be “shared” by Democrat politicians. We will be Greece. The unemployed young and middle-aged government bureaucrats will be in the streets demanding that the broken gravy train be started up once again. The old will starve quietly.

Is this the America we want? Is voting for this terrible future an act of “compassion”?


3 posted on 11/06/2012 5:43:16 AM PST by txrefugee
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Well written, and boy, you’ve got a bad case there. I know some similar folks (not related) and it’s really frustrating to know how they are good people otherwise. I’ve decided that a lot of this is self-defense, or something similar that compels them to defend ideas simply because they have become so invested in them that it would cause mental anguish to consider they might be all wrong. Good luck with the football and bbq!


4 posted on 11/06/2012 5:44:43 AM PST by bigbob
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Talking to a Liberal on Election Eve

Why bother?

5 posted on 11/06/2012 5:45:28 AM PST by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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“I pray, as I have for many years now, for my loved one to be free from the deception of liberalism. And the next time I talk with him, I will try much harder to keep the conversation away from politics and on, say, football and barbecue.”

Good idea. I had a complete blow up talking to a friend of mine since childhood who fell into the liberal trance.

Since then, keeping the conversation away from politics has served us well.

Although, as a typical liberal he makes subtle comments to keep his dillusion of superiority alive in his mind. It’s commical. The price of balancing friendship with politics.

The alternative - to cut every liberal out of my life would half the size of my relationships with family and friends who aside from being complete dupes add value to my life.


6 posted on 11/06/2012 5:46:59 AM PST by Eddie01 (Liberals lie about everything all the time.)
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This decent caring person that Gina loves is a waste of space and resources. I’d have nothing to do with him myself. Not worth the trouble or the time.


7 posted on 11/06/2012 5:47:10 AM PST by Gaffer
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He is so right — it’s shocking how many of my friends have not a clue what is happening to our country. They get snippets of new from the MSM and end up like two of my women friends, who are very concerned that if Romney/Ryan win that they will overturn Roe v Wade. They absolutely buy this war on women crap. That’s why the MSM is so evil - they know that most people are like these two women and so they can manipulate reality however they want. Today we have to save our country - and people like my two friends- who don’t have the understanding to know how our country is being “fundamentally transformed” by this junior tyrant. GO VOTE, EVERYONE - AND GODSPEED TO OUR SIDE!!!


8 posted on 11/06/2012 5:48:07 AM PST by madmominct
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I’ve got a Gina in my family. Wife of one of my nephews. Had to be her who wrote this article, because she’s describing my family to a T.


9 posted on 11/06/2012 5:52:00 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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I know a few democrats and they all agree Obama has turned rabid and if he was their dog he would go the route of Old Yella. They also think that is the general consensus across the country.


10 posted on 11/06/2012 5:52:25 AM PST by Eye of Unk (President Romney, get used to it.)
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I had a similar altercation with my stepson last night via Facebook. I finally said I had to sign off before I said something I would really regret, then deleted the entire thing. I cannot believe a successful entrepreneur could be so blind. He has all the Dem talking points down pat, is still blaming the “Bush boys” and called me a Neo-Con among other things. I tried to talk some sense into him, but he’s a goner. I’ve removed most libs from my life, but it’s hard when they are family. But, I have no respect for them and hate the arguments that always happen when politics comes up!


11 posted on 11/06/2012 5:55:48 AM PST by MomofMarine
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I’m looking forward to writing two words on all my lib friends OBAMA facebook posts: BUH-BYE!


12 posted on 11/06/2012 5:57:00 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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It’s like watching Bob Beckel on The Five. When he talks about “there’s going to be 10 million new voters turning out this cycle” I’d like to counter: “and half of those 10 million new voters are probably unemployed or certainly underemployed.” Doesn’t mean they will vote our way, but I wonder how they could vote for 4 more years of this malaise. When Obama goes to those enthusiastic college campuses, don’t those young people know the statistics: 50% of college graduates since 2008 are unemployed? And most deeply in debt? Ah, hope and change in Obama-land!


13 posted on 11/06/2012 5:57:00 AM PST by ReleaseTheHounds ("The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To have a loved-one become liberal is the same as having one become one of the “walking dead”. Liberalism rots out the human brain and deprives it of the ability to reason logically and objectively. It instills a strong self-loathing characteristic that eventually leads to violent behavior as the disease takes it’s full course. We’ve all seen and experienced it in one way, shape or another. They essentially become mental zombies....so sad, when it’s a close friend or a loved-one.


14 posted on 11/06/2012 5:57:47 AM PST by lgjhn23
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I have a lib step-daughter who just has an incredible belief in Big Government to solve the country’s problems. Useless to argue with her she’s so sure she’s right. She was visiting over the weekend with her children and at one moment went off on a diatribe about Michelle Bachman. And when we were watching tv, insisted on watching that liberal, other-world fantasy HBO’s “The Newsroom.” (we purchased HBO to watch The Sopranos...it’s long outlived its usefulness). I wish Bachman would have gotten the nomination for prez simply to see the look on her face when she saw the “Bachman For President” lawn sign in our front yard.


16 posted on 11/06/2012 6:05:35 AM PST by driftless2
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I have a few similar relatives but I can’t be bothered to debate them.

I think that ignorance must be like being adrift on the sea and unable to swim. You feel a primal fear and you cling to the nearest piece of floating debris. The memory of the fear is too strong to convince you to leave the floating debris even after the life rafts are nearby waiting to pick you up.

And that’s the biggest hurdle: instincts, combined with conditioning, make a very tough nut to crack.

It’s no coincidence that the public schools have been producing legions of ‘smart’ ignorant types for decades.


17 posted on 11/06/2012 6:08:32 AM PST by relictele
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Some people are convinced that rescue is at the stern, some are convinced rescue is at the bow...


18 posted on 11/06/2012 6:09:15 AM PST by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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A couple of suggestions - sometimes they help put a chink in their armour.

1) If Roe v Wade is repealed, what happens? Answer: the question goes back to the states as it was prior. Ask them if they really think their state would outlaw abortion, and point out that states are already free to define issues of life and death as they see fit (murder, etc.). Why are they against people having choices?

2) You can make a good case that the differences between liberals and conservatives is that liberals want to force everyone, including those who disagree, to conform with their worldview by using the force of the state to shove it down their throats (either by outright coersion, or by confiscation or both). Conservatives largely just want to be left alone and are willing to do so to others. If their ideas are so wonderful, why do they look to the state first rather than trying to convince those who disagree? Are they so inept at explaining, or are the public schools they’ve run for decades that useless?


21 posted on 11/06/2012 6:19:31 AM PST by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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Personally I will not associate myself with any lefties and IMO they are traitors to this country. I don’t care if they are friends or family. This is war and our country as we know it is at stake, and anyone who votes for Barky or defends that leftist crap is the enemy. Period.


22 posted on 11/06/2012 6:28:18 AM PST by VP82254
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All my liberal friends have long since given up and self deported......I don’t miss a one of them!!!


23 posted on 11/06/2012 6:31:23 AM PST by ontap
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It thrives on envy.

And envy comes from vanity/pride, thinking too highly of oneself, too much self-esteem. People are too quick to take personal credit for all the gifts and blessings that were given to them. To improve things we don't need a self-esteem movement but a self-humble movement.

Many times false self-esteem develops as a protective response to painful events during childhood: an absent father, witnessing other children receive gifts for their birthday and Christmas. This certainly explains O'Bastard's hardcore leftism. To this day the O'Bastard household bans birthday and Christmas gifts for their children, and if the O'Bastard could he would ban them for yours.

Pride leads to envy which leads to hate which leads to theft, destruction, murder, war, and most of the evil in the world. A plus side of this defect of human nature is it also drives human evolution at a much higher speed than natural selection. We owe our high intelligence to the special environmental pressure of envy, which pushes human development along at high speed while leaving other plants and animals untouched. During tribal warfare, the left side of the bell curve is more likely to get killed off. Unfortunately the bell curve spontaneously reforms and the cycle of violence repeats forever at a self-regulating pace.

Don't hate the envious, but do buy a gun. Nothing has suddenly changed or will change about human nature.

31 posted on 11/06/2012 7:21:10 AM PST by Reeses
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