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Was the election stolen? Does it matter?
Vanity | 11/6/12 | Richard

Posted on 11/06/2012 10:11:48 PM PST by Richard Axtell

Was this election stolen? The question has to be asked. If the answer is yes, as with so, so many other elections, is this good enough for the winners to know that their moral turpitude and mendacity cannot make up for the crime of the erosion of the republic and liberty itself. If it was stolen, what then? Sad to think about our loss, and sadder to think face the abyss that is our future.


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: votefraud; wtf
What now folks?
1 posted on 11/06/2012 10:11:52 PM PST by Richard Axtell
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To: Richard Axtell

It doesn’t matter now.

What people should be doing, if they haven’t done so already, is start prepping. It will not be a good four years to say the least.


2 posted on 11/06/2012 10:13:46 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Richard Axtell

I think I could handle the losses better if I didn’t think the fraud in the high electoral vote states cost the election. I honestly thought Mitt had Michigan.

Does Mitt have to concede? Are all the votes really in? I’m still not seeing full tallies for Michigan, but no use hoping.


3 posted on 11/06/2012 10:14:12 PM PST by madison10
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To: Richard Axtell
they didn't need to steal alot...but they stole enough...and they'll get away with it...

some stealing happened in states run by pub governors....they did it under their noses...

why can't we have one man one vote with valid voter id, not a library card....

the ruling party has gutted the constitution and the elections.....its over...

and now the real demographics kick in...the real very large hispanic vote will be so large that the rats won't need to steal anymore....

evil progresses when good men do nothing....and they did nothing..

4 posted on 11/06/2012 10:16:43 PM PST by cherry
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To: Richard Axtell
To kill some time.........

The entire first season of Too Close For Comfort is available on DVD.

5 posted on 11/06/2012 10:18:38 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: Richard Axtell

Stealing isn’t stealing, cheating isn’t cheating and the law is just a suggestion to liberals. ALL that matters is achieving the objective,
completing the agenda and WIN AT ANY COST. The cheaters truly
don’t believe they cheated and are both puzzled and happy that their
opponents are stupid enough to believe in honesty and “play” fair.

The dems will toast their win as the end justified the means and they won’t
lose a moments sleep over their mendacity. They are far too busy planning
their next assault on our freedoms.


6 posted on 11/06/2012 10:18:55 PM PST by nvscanman
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To: Richard Axtell
The defeat was too widespread to have been stolen.

Did they steal Ohio and PA? maybe yes, maybe no.

But we lost: Colorado, Iowa, New Hampshire, Virginia.

Sorry, we got our ass kicked. No excuses. His game plan worked: divide the country, get the 47% on your team and enough of the upper half will go along.

Whining about a 'stolen' election distracts from what we need to do to win.

7 posted on 11/06/2012 10:21:25 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Obama Lied, Stevens died.)
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To: Richard Axtell

If there was fraud it was marginal.

Obama and the dems kicked the snot out of us from coast to coast. We had differing views on what jazzes Americans... and that obviously is no longer the concept of freedom.

God, we’re such a different country now....


8 posted on 11/06/2012 10:24:12 PM PST by ScottinVA (Pray hard!)
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To: Richard Axtell

Someone just posted this: How legit is “True the Vote?” This just came in from them....The election results reported for the presidential election tonight for WI, OH, PA, VA and FL do not match the totals of legal ballots cast in those states. This is fraud at a virtual level we’ve never seen. Now we have to see if the stupid party has the courage to challenge these false totals and recount the ballots without the exit poll charade. I saw this earlier!


9 posted on 11/06/2012 10:24:43 PM PST by LADYAK
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To: Michael.SF.

They didn’t even need to cheat as all the 47% plus a few more fearful of losing a free ride voted obama.I am puzzled as to what you do to win when obviously the majority of voters WANT more “free” government goodies,WANT to be taken care of by big government,WANT the “right” to murder the unborn,WANT the “right” to deviant sex,in short,WANT to live irresponsibly at the expense of those who still work hard.

The selfish people voted to destroy the U.S. for their own short-term gain;i suspect this is eerily like the fall of the Roman Empire. Narcissists in charge and huge crowds living on government handouts.

Now more than ever,smart people will hide as much of their wealth as possible lest the “takers” in and out of government steal it.


10 posted on 11/06/2012 10:32:26 PM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: LADYAK

Romney has conceded. It is over.


11 posted on 11/06/2012 10:32:37 PM PST by expat1000
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To: Richard Axtell

Yes and yes.


12 posted on 11/06/2012 10:33:45 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: hoosierham

Damn depressing it is.


13 posted on 11/06/2012 10:40:06 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Obama Lied, Stevens died.)
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To: LADYAK; ScottinVA

Read what LADYAK said above.


14 posted on 11/06/2012 10:40:50 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Michael.SF.
The defeat was too widespread to have been stolen.

The Democrats were trying to give the election to the GOP - a very very lackluster and uninspiring President and Senate with a crappy economy. The GOP response? Run a homo-loving, gun-hating, draft-dodging, New England Mormon.

The GOP acted like 2008 was not a wakeup call and that their mistake was not running somebody liberal enough, so they went out and found somebody more liberal than McCain, and that somebody was conveniently changing his positions on abortion and other liberal views to run for the White House.
15 posted on 11/06/2012 10:52:15 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: ScottinVA

“God, we’re such a different country now....”

We’ve become such a distant country now from God.


16 posted on 11/06/2012 10:59:27 PM PST by WKTimpco (Traditional Values Counter Revolution)
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To: madison10

There are enough absentee ballots out to reverse the outcomes in Ohio,Virginia,Wisconsin and several other states,if they actually get counted.


17 posted on 11/07/2012 1:28:40 AM PST by makersmk2013
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To: Richard Axtell

isn't it clear to you all yet that the numbers were manipulated for this outcome???? after 2010 these numbers couldn't be true.


18 posted on 11/07/2012 2:04:53 AM PST by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: The Wizard

The 2010 election was like the 1994 election, dominated by issues of substance and driven by the anger of frustrated taxpayers. 2008 and 2012 are examples of the stampede of sheep by wolves, driven by a combination of opportunistic manipulation and outright fraud.

This silly dance goes back and forth, with the results we are seeing now, precipitous decline of all standards of American life. Regardless, it seems that mid-term elections just do not get replicated if the corrupt Democrat party puts all its effort into what they consider a “campaign”, or lying to the American people to gain power over them. Something must break this cycle. And it will be the next major war... coming very soon.


19 posted on 11/07/2012 11:59:06 AM PST by Richard Axtell (I don't know what I can say)
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To: Michael.SF.

I disagree. It’s not about whining; it’s about analysis.

Number one, did it happen?
Number two, how did it happen?

We need to know and it needs to be ASAP for future purposes.


20 posted on 11/08/2012 8:19:47 AM PST by Orgiveme (Give me liberty orgiveme death!)
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To: Orgiveme
I agree voter fraud needs to be investigated and stopped, as it can impact elections (more so local then national).

But we lost because 2,000,000 McCain voters chose to stay home. Get those people to vote for Romney and we win.

Focusing on voter fraud as the cause of our defeat is a misdirection.

21 posted on 11/08/2012 8:28:23 AM PST by Michael.SF. (Obama Lied, Stevens died.)
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To: Richard Axtell

“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years.”

In the most efficient dictatorships of the coming century..unlike the crude ones of the 20th century...the populace will be unaware of the alternatives. We’re about there folks...and would surmise already that elections are held just to keep the lid on the illusion.


22 posted on 11/08/2012 8:38:47 AM PST by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Michael.SF.

I think that’s an important point. That’s part of the analysis I’m referring to, however. I sure hope that’s not the case.

Personally, I also had the thought that the late smugness on the Left about the “outcome” and the so-tight numbers on their internal polling vis-a-vis the outcome is AWFULLY suspicious.

I am involved in an 18-month old effort in California, Election Integrity Project (not to be confused with that effort of the same name under auspices of a national conservative watchdog organization) that put out about 2000 trained poll observers with backup legal consult during this week’s election (only in California). You can find them online at www.electionintegrityproject.com.

Happy followup!


23 posted on 11/08/2012 3:48:35 PM PST by Orgiveme (Give me liberty orgiveme death!)
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To: Orgiveme

Lest I forget:

There is that national organization I mentioned (look for John Fund online, Texas’s True the Vote, Minnesota has a group by a name similar to Election Integrity’s, etc.) for an effort local to yours. We discovered ours by the “usual route” - local patriots.

Happy Hunting! It’s great to group, nk.


24 posted on 11/08/2012 3:53:08 PM PST by Orgiveme (Give me liberty orgiveme death!)
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To: Richard Axtell

All theater, in my opinion. Just like the Obamacare/ Roberts deal.

While we were bickering about how to keep from going over to the dark side, the dark side had already swallowed us whole. Don’t worry, though. The charade continues and we’ll all feel invigorated and ready to b!tch about the next chapter, a month from now.


25 posted on 11/08/2012 3:59:48 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: The Wizard

It’s clear to me, and I don’t believe the numbers either. 3 million John McCain voters stayed home?? Romney ran a much better campaign than McCain, and we had 4 years under our belt this time. Romney’s rallies were large and enthusiastic, wherever he went. By contrast, O’s rallies were anemic.

So here’s how you steal the election: electronically. You toss out 1 out of every 10 Romney votes, and that more than compensates for the lost 3 million. Romney thought he had FL sewn up, spent the last week in PA and OH. You only really need to steal FL and OH. Then shore up the numbers with some bogus exit polls about how the country has turned liberal and believed everything the Dem campaign said.

So maybe this has been done before, in 2004. See here: http://stolenelection.net/. What if the way was being paved for Obama back in 2004. “They” didn’t want Kerry to win so O could run in ‘08...against McCain, who poo-poohed the idea that the election was stolen from Kerry in ‘04, according to this site.


26 posted on 11/08/2012 8:47:44 PM PST by Joe Btfsplk
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