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Do Republicans Have A Way Forward?
Political Realities ^ | 11/12/12 | LD Jackson

Posted on 11/12/2012 4:46:48 AM PST by LD Jackson

I wrote yesterday about President Obama's second term and what it was likely to look like. Today, I would like to examine the paths the Republicans in Congress may possibly take as they confront what is largely an unchanged balance of power in Washington. If you listen to the President and his supporters, the election gave them a carte blanche mandate to pass their agenda of taxing the wealthy into oblivion. Obviously, that isn't the case but there are signs that many Americans believe the reforms that need to be made need to include some form of tax increase on the wealthy. Speaker John Boehner has already signaled he is ready to move forward and has informed his caucus to fall into line, via a conference call.

I have read more than a few different viewpoints on how the Republicans should deal with the situation they are facing in Washington. Some have said Boehner and company should give Obama and company everything they want, loudly proclaiming their opposition to that liberal agenda in the process. That way, the only party that could be blamed when the house burns down is the Democrats and the President.

Others hold the viewpoint that the Republicans should stand their ground and hinder the implementation of the liberal agenda at every possible opportunity. Refuse to fund Obamacare, filibuster in the Senate, and refuse to raise one penny of new taxes.

The most likely scenario will probably contain elements of both contrasting positions. If anything is to be accomplished in Washington, compromises will have to be negotiated. I'm not talking about the compromise the Democrats want, in that the Republicans give them everything, while receiving nothing in return. That includes holding their ground on spending. If we are to see higher taxes on the wealthy, which I'm not at all convinced is a good idea, then we have to have concessions from the Democrats on spending. Again, I'm not talking about the Democrats' proposal that we raise taxes now and cut spending later, ten years down the road. If they expect us to capitulate on tax increases, then they should cut spending now. Let me state that again. No new taxes unless spending is cut in a meaningful way.

We should also keep in mind that fiscal issues are not the only issues that will be coming up. The homosexuals are already up in arms, demanding President Obama sign an Executive Order about discrimination against them in the workplace. Immigration advocates are making their voices heard and the Republicans have already acknowledged they are willing to compromise on that particualar issue. They are probably correct in that assumption, as they run the risk of further alienating the immigrant community, if they do no. I look for something to happen in that regard soon, probably in 2013.

The Republicans need to understand something. The political reality is that no matter what happens, they are going to be blamed for obstructionism. No matter what kind of compromise is worked out, it will never be enough for some liberals, including those in the media. The Republicans should strap on their hard hats, knowing full well they are about to encounter rough sailing. They are not likely to come through this unscathed. They should choose their path forward carefully.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: presidentobama; republicans

1 posted on 11/12/2012 4:46:59 AM PST by LD Jackson
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To: LD Jackson

“Do Republicans Have A Way Forward”

The shortest distance between two points is a straight line...in the opposite direction.


2 posted on 11/12/2012 4:52:49 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: LD Jackson
The Republicans need to understand something. The political reality is that no matter what happens, they are going to be blamed for obstructionism. No matter what kind of compromise is worked out, it will never be enough for some liberals, including those in the media. The Republicans should strap on their hard hats, knowing full well they are about to encounter rough sailing. They are not likely to come through this unscathed. They should choose their path forward carefully.

Absolutely true, but not the way the author means. Republicans need to stop worrying about damage control and take a stand. If it means shutting government down by locking the purse, so be it. There is nothing we can do to keep from being vilified - might as well stop worrying about "image" among the unclean and start worrying about doing what is right for the Nation and the People.

3 posted on 11/12/2012 4:55:28 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: LD Jackson

I’ve thought about this - hard. I’m going to do everything in my power to get both of my Georgia Senators REMOVED. Primaried. I’m going to give whatever I can, legally or illegally to their primary opponents.

The first step is to take out your RINO trash...it starts here...


4 posted on 11/12/2012 4:56:25 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: trebb

Go the opposite way, vote “present”, and whom are they gonna blame? Ghost Busters!


5 posted on 11/12/2012 4:58:32 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: trebb

Ding ding ding ! Go over the cliff and raise taxes on everyone - cut spending, increase payroll tax, end unlimited unemployment insurance, risk our security with defense cuts and let the obama care taxes kick in. None of these are good things. However, it is too easy for many voters to support the welfare state while they aren’t kicking in. I believe even the libtards say Solyndra Schmolyndra once there are economic consequences to THEM when they support retarded candidates, programs and policies. Sure we’ll be vilified but who cares if it means we can turn the ship around ? Make them pay now for all this they’ve wrought.


6 posted on 11/12/2012 5:02:29 AM PST by major-pelham
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To: LD Jackson
need to understand something

....a nice way of saying your way of thinking is wrong and unless you see it my way you'll never accomplish anything.......but I'll be back to try and get you to "think" they way I do because I'm right and your wrong and that's the way it is no matter what you say.........do you understand?

7 posted on 11/12/2012 5:04:59 AM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle

“Do Republicans Have A Way Forward?”

No, Conservatives do.

I call this McCain Syndrome. Republicans want to take pot shots in retaliation rather than a full scale counter attack because they are worried what the media wil vilify them.

If you are going to be vilified anyway, might as well go to war.


8 posted on 11/12/2012 5:16:59 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The goal is to equalize outcomes based on race without regard for performance or merit.)
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To: Doogle

“Do Republicans Have A Way Forward?”

No, Conservatives do.

I call this McCain Syndrome. Republicans want to take pot shots in retaliation rather than a full scale counter attack because they are worried that the media wil vilify them.

If you are going to be vilified anyway, might as well go to war.


9 posted on 11/12/2012 5:17:11 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The goal is to equalize outcomes based on race without regard for performance or merit.)
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To: LD Jackson

Didn’t vote Bama Claus like the parasitic class did, but I really wasn’t looking forward to a Romney term either. Like California, the socialist party approved candidate will own what comes next, and it won’t be pretty.

The media is complicit in their silence while individual liberty and constitutional law are being routinely violated by executive order and midnight, non-transparent, legislative subjugation.

Storm clouds of fiscal reality are brewing...and the statist in chief is ready to embrace it and exploit it to expedite the ‘transformation’ of America.
Void of an eminent threat or attack, the poser had no choice but to exploit the internal weaknesses of our system. Cut the roots, dry up the soil, and the liberty tree will be weakened....and taken by the next prevailing wind.

People will be stunned, shocked, horrified....and with the help of our ‘progressive’ media will agree to whatever measures are deemed necessary. It is the one thing the Big O has been drooling for, a really good crisis. Look for an emerging war, financial crisis and a new domestic army deployed within our borders for ‘national security’.
Forget wagging the dog...it just got hit by a gravy train running full throttle towards the end of the line.
You best set down your beer down and tighten that seat belt...and say your prayers.


10 posted on 11/12/2012 5:18:49 AM PST by Mobilemitter (We must learn to fin >-)> for ourselves.........)
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To: LD Jackson

This post is written in anger and frustration.

Angry that we continue to follow the Republican Party’s elite ignorance. A party that continues to pull defeat from the jaws of victory characterized by pompous fools who fulfill the sterotype built by the left.

Frustrated that the reality of politics is this: There will be no third party capable of competing with the coalition constructed by the dems. As a result, true conservatives MUST take steps to irradicate the ignorance of the Republican Party while still adhering to the core values of our forefathers (beliefs that I discovered are considered extreme by over half of my countrymen on Tuesday night, BTW).

I have no solve for exactly how to accomplish this. Only advice based on a long military career in several foreign lands for how to defeat the dems once this is accomplished.

This thought process is based on the concept of irregular warfare with twists thrown in here and there for good measure.

With that, I provide the following advice for the good of the order.

LEADERSHIP: The old crew has proven either incompotent or outdated. McConnell and Boerner must go. They represent a failed plan to defend and resist without clearly explaining their position. They are content with looking like the bad guys and face public scorn when they don’t realize how important it is to manipulate a clearly left leaning MSM. They represent the failure of the last four years to our own and obstructionists to the opposition. We’ve got to show a new face to the nation. That is the genesis of rebuilding this movement. Ryan or Cantor in the House, Rubio or Demint in the Senate.

We also need a standard bearer and I see no one on the horizon with as much rockstar potential and substance as Rubio. These next four years must put him on the center stage with a unified and consolidated message. It also needs to protect him from the attacks from the left that are guaranteed to come.

Everything the Obamites used to deny, deflect, and difuse will be used againstt hem....including the race card. THAT is what will make Rubio a teflon candidate.

These men represent a change in a party that has been beaten soundly in the last two elections by a charlatan and his traveling circus. A fresh choice in leadership represents change you can TRULY beleive in from every angle. It marks a clear start from inside and outside when we actually started taking this enemy seriously.

GROUND GAME: It is IMPERATIVE to develop and foster an intricate ground game. It requires a MICRO-ANALYSIS of every county, every city, and every early and absentee ballot by demographic to find how how, why, and with what method they voted. The dems have built quite the coalition but it’s a house of cards; it’s a fractured coalition of single issue voters held together by a media-invested hollyweird worshipping demagogue. They can be piecemealed away bitby bit without sacrficing principle.

Give it to the dems on their “community organizing” machine. We don’t need to reinvent that model. We MUST develop our own. One that will INSTILL our principles in a language tailored to the audience. They’ve tailored theirs on the community organizer, we can create ours around the military special operator. This the winning of hearts and minds in our own third world backyard dem strongholds.

This isn’t as difficult as it sounds. It requires a patient and immediate effort that starts with the post election analysis looking not for what we WANT to find, but for the GROUND TRUTH. GROUND TRUTH is REAL INTELLIGENCE not Rovian number-crunching wishful thinking.

It will require an insurgent effort at the ground level. An infiltration into dem areas that we identify are weak or vulnerable to start cutting in to the blue.

The COIN (insurgeny/counterinsurgency)effort would include the identification of these areas, the inflitration of the areas through churches and charitable organizations AND PARTICULARLY THROUGH EDUCATION.

There ARE like thinkers in these communities. How do we find them? Ask Jesse L. Peterson. Ask JC Watts and Herman Cain. They KNOW how to splinter these vulnerable areas off the blue.

The hispanic issue is RIPE for moving into the red. Catholic, family oriented cultures who beleive in being left alone and naturally distrust the government. And they voted Obama? This is the epitome of the single issue voter. the RNC needs to go toe to toe, issue to issue with “the Race” and counter it in that community, in that language, at THAT LEVEL.

Think it can’t be done? SOF has been doing it since the end of World War II. It CAN be done.

WE must get deep into the education system to promote the ideals and values of conservatism that should be selling themselves. I’m not talking about traditional public schools and universities. They are ROTTED with liberals. They also aren’tthe keys to education in the 21st century.

I’m talking about the new way to educate - the online universities, the trade schools and nightschools. Corporate allies need to invest and educate with the ideals of economic and fiscal conservatism.

The RNC needs to lead and develop this effort. A novice like me can see that there is a disconnect between the voting habits of catholic-dominated hispanics and pockets of baptist blacks and their actual stated values. That disconnect can be exploited if it is done slowly, deliberately, and effectively.

INFORMATION WARFARE: We are ATROCIOUS AT THIS. Dems get a simple message out early and often. They poison the well and we are left to change minds rather than get the initial impression right from jump. We constantly play defense and think we are sooooo clever when dems (as they ALWAYS do) do something stupid or illegal and shocked when the media all but ignores it. We must take the offensive in getting up in every Candy Crowley, every George Stepenopolis’ face and call them what they are: democratic hacks posing as the “objective media”

We ABSOLUTELY MUST be proactive. We must attack at EVERY OPPORTUNITY then add each fail of the dems to a trend and theme. These themes must be simple, tailored, and repetitively broadcast to each target demographic.

We must look out beyond the 5 and 10 meter targets. We’ve got to effectively interpret what the dem message is on the horizon and confront it at all levels - from the national MSM level filtering directly down to the target group level. Even I can see what the talking points of the upcoming week are by watching the Sunday talking head programs. Defense is unacceptable. we can’t pretent that the most outrageous comment won’t gain traction then act surprised when weeks later, that theme picks up steam. Attack, attack, attack.

Alinsky tactics must be turned against their masters. There is GREAT power in ridicule and scorn. They make it too easy to use. It needs to be culturally tailored and consistent. Dennis Miller needs his own show on FNC AND a late night show on Fox. Let him source and promote culturally diverse conserative comedians that vulnerable areas can relate to and remember. Bold Fresh tours aren’t enough.

This is only part of an overall information operation plan that is constant in a simple party message and what it means to each target group.

WE DON’T DO THAT WELL. WHY NOT? I find it unbelievable that Obama has hijacked the reputation and imagery of the Party of Lincoln.

COIN operations involve a very in depth understanding of cultural idocyncracies and how best to exploit them to our advantage. It’s not a “wool-over-the-eyes” approach or a “free shit” approach like the dems sell. THAT ALWAYS COMES UP SHORT.

It’s a sell based on how it effects each target group and what it means to them. If it’s done right, I am CONFIDENT that the tenets of conservatism sell themselves.

In Civil Miltary Operations, assistance in areas that seem unrelated builds trust in the agency. Granted, there’s a fine line between assistance and the giving of free shit but, the special operations forces walk that line well. It can be done. Community outreach in areas that we identify, in ways that we haven’t before can build a larger tent without sacrificing our beliefs.

The military has been doing this in third world countries for years. We’ve been more successful in some areas, less successful in others. In the United States third world strongholds of the Democratic Party,I am confident that it can be done.

Here’s the kicker: There are countless retired special operations planners and operators working overseas as contractors RIGHT NOW. It’s too easy; the RNC needs to hire them as contractors over here.

This is, by far, not the only avenue we’ve got to pursue in order to turn the tide.

But, if we are going to war, the RNC must look to the military to rediscover and reorganize. The number-crunching beancounters have their place in the organization but, on their best days, they can only identify who will and won’t vote Republican.

This is a “Hearts and Minds” effort.

It requires a new way to think about the political battlefield.

Rangers Lead the Way.


11 posted on 11/12/2012 5:24:47 AM PST by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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To: LD Jackson
No new taxes unless spending is cut in a meaningful way.
Do these idiots ever learn?

Democrats never cut spending...ever!

How many times does Lucy have to pull the football back before Charlie Brown refuses to kick it?


12 posted on 11/12/2012 5:29:11 AM PST by Bratch
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To: LD Jackson

The Republican Party needs to stick to Conservative principles and Conservative candidates.

If we begin to chase power and control at the price of our values, we are lost as a country and the Constitutional Republic has failed.


13 posted on 11/12/2012 5:36:18 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: LD Jackson

Take immigration off the table. Throw open the borders and let all who wish to come, come!! Instant amnesty for any citizen of the world.
Throw away your angry, white male card and join the brave, new world ... give in to your desires and enjoy the party while it lasts.


14 posted on 11/12/2012 5:53:18 AM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: LD Jackson
"Do Republicans have a way forward?"

Boehner is asking Obama to lead the way forward, at least on immigration policy.

15 posted on 11/12/2012 5:58:46 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: military cop

“It is IMPERATIVE to develop and foster an intricate ground game. It requires a MICRO-ANALYSIS of every county, every city, and every early and absentee ballot by demographic to find how how, why, and with what method they voted”

Voter and election fraud would have to factor in to that if you really want to establish this “GROUND TRUTH” with “REAL INTELLIGENCE”.


16 posted on 11/12/2012 6:08:41 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: equaviator

Absolutely. Ground truth is the absolute no SHIT answer on the ground.

Unless we start dealing with this honestly instead of covering it with Hannity flowers and Limbaugh cakes we’re going to continue to stumble.


17 posted on 11/12/2012 6:48:14 AM PST by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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To: LD Jackson
Do the Republicans have a way forward?

I'd say no...They have pretty much committed suicide as a political party...

18 posted on 11/12/2012 7:44:05 AM PST by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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