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Will Alabama Supreme Court Rule Obama Ineligible?
Godfather Politics ^ | December 11, 2012 | Giacomo

Posted on 12/11/2012 1:37:12 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Over the past year, both before and since the elections, there have been a number of court cases challenging Barack Hussein Obama’s eligibility. Most of the cases have been dismissed by judges for reasons that are not truly legitimate, but many feel they were dismissed to avoid the political ramifications.

Just last week I wrote about a case that was filed in Florida, that not only challenged Obama’s eligibility, but stated that he was a direct threat to the safety and security of the United States. That case has yet to be heard.

Yet another case filed in Alabama may present one of the best chances of producing a ruling against Obama. In this case, Hugh McInnish and others have filed suit against Alabama Secretary of State Beth Chapman for failure to properly verify the eligibility of Barack Obama. The case points out that the state constitution requires the Secretary of State to verify a candidate’s eligibility and that Chapman failed to accurately verify Obama’s eligibility.

The attorney handling this case is the same attorney handling the case in Florida. Larry Klayman, founder of Judicial Watch and the Klayman Law Firm in Washington, will hopefully be arguing this case before the Alabama State Supreme Court. The reason the case is going to the state Supreme Court is that a previous judge dismissed the case. In that case the state argued...

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: alabama; birthcertificate; certifigate; florida; naturalborncitizen; obama; usurper

1 posted on 12/11/2012 1:37:22 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Given that Larry (Loser) Klayman is in charge, the answer is obviously a resounding “no”.


2 posted on 12/11/2012 1:43:42 PM PST by Notary Sojac (Only liberals believe that people can be made virtuous via legislative enactment.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nope, won’t happen.

Corruption is too deep now - everywhere.

Nothing to see here.

Move along.

Move along.


3 posted on 12/11/2012 1:44:57 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

obviously not.


4 posted on 12/11/2012 1:44:57 PM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

who knows? one of these days some judge somewhere just might decide to do his/her job?


5 posted on 12/11/2012 1:45:07 PM PST by faithhopecharity (--)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s too late...and it’s not going to do any good. I think anyone can “prove” he was born here better than anyone can prove he was born in Kenya. Not that I like the man’s policies and havn’t looked into this issue (like many others) i just think it makes people who live believing it look like kooks.

If there was real factual hard evidence I would jump on the band-wagon right away.


6 posted on 12/11/2012 1:46:51 PM PST by the_boy_who_got_lost
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Obama is ineligible, he should not be POTUS. People like he and Hillary are enemies of America.


7 posted on 12/11/2012 1:49:59 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Betteridge's law of headlines

"Any headline which ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no"
8 posted on 12/11/2012 1:50:33 PM PST by FewsOrange
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To: freekitty

Obama and his minions would just laugh it off ,then ignore it


9 posted on 12/11/2012 2:00:08 PM PST by molson209
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So if the case is won and the Alabama Sec. of State did not infact confirm his eligibility, does that them mean that Obama will lose the Electoral votes from Alabama, the one’s that he did not get?


10 posted on 12/11/2012 2:05:16 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Obama lied, Stevens died.)
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To: faithhopecharity; 2ndDivisionVet; freekitty

No judge can, or will boot a sitting President from office.

That is a good thing.


11 posted on 12/11/2012 2:08:24 PM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: faithhopecharity

No judge will boot a sitting President from office.

That is a bad thing.


12 posted on 12/11/2012 2:10:15 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, then, it looks like another failure then. Specifically, the term “properly”? Did the SoS follow the law, custom, and procedure for certifying those, and I mean ALL of those on the ballot? Unless you can demonstrate the SoS SPECIFICALLY violated the procedure, then it is all for naught, and will be tossed out, like the lower court did.

EVIDENCE, people. Not wishful thinking.


13 posted on 12/11/2012 2:11:29 PM PST by ace2u_in_MD (You missed something...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“There is credible evidence that Mr. Obama was not born within the United States and that his birth certificate or other identifying documents are fraudulent.”

- Larry Klayman

Subpoena his complete immigration file with DHS. A Certificate of Naturalization is proof he was a foreign national before becoming a U.S. Citizen. A Permanent Resident Alien Registration (Green Card) is proof he is a foreign national who is not yet a U.S. citizen.


14 posted on 12/11/2012 2:11:38 PM PST by SvenMagnussen (TINKER, TAILOR, SOLDIER, SPY)
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To: Revolting cat!

Ok, faithhopecharity, tell me how, under the law, can a judge remove a sitting president?

That is for congress to do...


15 posted on 12/11/2012 2:14:30 PM PST by ace2u_in_MD (You missed something...)
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost

We don’t have to prove where he was born. Obozo has to prove he is constitutionally eligible - i.e. that he is a natural born citizen, one that was born on US soil to 2 USA citizen parentS.

When you apply for a job or whatever, you have to prove your place of birth, not the employer or the agency.

obozo has never proven his birth status. No one ever knows where the heck he was really born. We only know that he claims to be the son of a foreigner.

You are saying - we the employer asking obozo to prove his birth status to make sure he is eligible for the job are kooks;
but the idiots who DON’T question his birth status but blindly let him take the job are right in calling us kooks?

IT IS OBVIOUS - YOU ARE THE KOOK!


16 posted on 12/11/2012 2:14:37 PM PST by chrisnj
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

spread around a few bribes and these guys will be bought.


17 posted on 12/11/2012 2:24:21 PM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: Jacquerie

Judge could demand proof of constitutional eligibility, especially easy before a new presidential term begins (dores not require removing a sitting “president” at this propitious time)


18 posted on 12/11/2012 2:24:33 PM PST by faithhopecharity (--)
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To: FewsOrange

I agree.


19 posted on 12/11/2012 2:30:42 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: ace2u_in_MD

1. The state constitution requires the Secretary of State to verify a candidate’s eligibility.
2. The plaintiff has presented the state SOS mountains of evidences that obozo is not constitutionally eligible to be the pres, and asks the state SOS to verify obozo’s elig.
3. The state SOS ignored the evidences and did not do anything to verify obozo’s eligibility, thus violating the state constitution.
ISN’T THIS SPECIFIC ENOUGH??!

IT IS THE CONSTITUTION, STUPID. (I don’t mean you specifically, I mean all the idiots who ignore the constitution)
This is not a matter of ‘procedure’, but constitution!


20 posted on 12/11/2012 2:35:10 PM PST by chrisnj
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nope.


21 posted on 12/11/2012 2:37:12 PM PST by Washi (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: Notary Sojac

Are you new to this discussion?


22 posted on 12/11/2012 2:42:30 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Michael.SF.

If they won in Alabama - the Alabama supreme court rules that obama is constitutionally ineligible to be the president, other states will be emboldened to follow.
Even if obama gets ‘inaugurated’, the big question of his constitutional elig will be hanging around his neck. When more and more state courts rule that obama is constitutionally ineligible, media will have to pay attention, congress will have to pay attention and will be pressured to conduct hearing on obama’s ineligibility....

States can refuse to acknowledge obama the president...

All it takes is 1 brave honorable judge to do the job .....


23 posted on 12/11/2012 2:48:56 PM PST by chrisnj
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To: faithhopecharity
Despite my hopes, a corrupt people voted for the return of a despot to office.

The blog source does not cite the section and verse of AL law under which Klayman filed suit.

If I was hopeful of the outcome, I would look the statute up.

The deadline for states to determine eligibilty is today.

24 posted on 12/11/2012 2:54:32 PM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Only Yahweh willing will it happen.


25 posted on 12/11/2012 3:33:15 PM PST by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: Jacquerie

I understand; but he is going to have to go.


26 posted on 12/11/2012 4:00:53 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Notary Sojac

We all know that Barry was born in Kenya or at least that is what he claimed all through college to get foreign student preferential treatment and funding. His father was not a US citizen, and even with his mom USA born, this alone would prevent him from being Pres. Barry carried his Kenyan passport and never did recant being a Kenyan. Why else would Barry spend over $1M and issue executive orders to seal his records. Unfortunately, there are no courts in the land that will stand up to a sitting president and insist that his records be produced. So our only hope is that the press turn on Barry and force the issue. Otherwise, Larry will continue to spin his wheels.....and get nothing done.


27 posted on 12/11/2012 4:06:52 PM PST by 2010Freeper
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To: Revolting cat!

Yes, bad thing.


28 posted on 12/11/2012 4:15:22 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who’s holding their breath?


29 posted on 12/11/2012 5:44:25 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Triple
I have followed this issue somewhat over the last two years, but have not focused on it in detail.

What I have followed, for over a decade, is the sorry career of Larry Klayman, Esq.

He is a master at separating gullible conservatives from their money, and a mega-failure at actually winning cases.

In fact, leftists' fear of "losing a case to Larry Klayman" is somewhere between their fear of "being struck on the head by a falling Zeppelin" and "being nibbled to death by dormice".

Send twenty bucks to a Larry Klayman fundraiser or spend that double saw on lottery tickets? I'd get more satisfaction from the latter every time.

I feel sorry for anyone whose heartfelt concern about Obama's eligibility leads them to send money to this shuckster.

30 posted on 12/11/2012 5:58:06 PM PST by Notary Sojac (Only liberals believe that people can be made virtuous via legislative enactment.)
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To: the_boy_who_got_lost

Real evidence like the HI state registrar twice legally confirming that the posted long-form is a forgery (once to AZ SOS Ken Bennett and once to KS SOS Kris Kobach) and refusing to verify any of the birth facts for Obama when the only lawful reason to do so is if the record is legally non-valid?

If that’s the evidence you’re looking for - actual disclosure by the HI official who is legally responsible to tell the truth about the record - then we’ve already got that.

Is there something more that anybody should be looking for, before this becomes a real and serious issue? Bennett asked if Onaka could verify the birth facts, and Onaka said no. In most instances, wouldn’t that settle the question?


31 posted on 12/12/2012 5:48:35 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Jacquerie

Then exactly who is to decide that the President elect has “failed to qualify” by Jan 20th, as described in the 20th Amendment? Bear in mind that nobody is “President elect” until the electoral vote is already certified, which is the only role that Congress plays in the Presidential election, so it can’t be Congress who determines the failure to qualify. Who, then, if not a judge or court?


32 posted on 12/12/2012 5:51:06 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Notary Sojac

“I feel sorry for anyone whose heartfelt concern about Obama’s eligibility leads them to send money to this shuckster.”

What the story doesn’t tell you is that Justice Moore will not be sworn in until January 11th. That’s five days after the Congress certifies the EC vote. By then the Alabama Supreme Court will have no say in the election. In fact they probably have no say in it already as we have passed the “safe harbor” date (six days before the EC votes).


33 posted on 12/12/2012 8:49:58 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

Ha, Larry’s done it again!!! Forgot about that ol’ timing issue. All those contributions folks have been sending in might buy a nice new Gold Wing though, or maybe an addon to the kitchen......


34 posted on 12/13/2012 4:50:40 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Only liberals believe that people can be made virtuous via legislative enactment.)
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To: Jacquerie
No judge can, or will boot a sitting President from office.

That is a good thing.

A state judge certainly has the power to invalidate the votes cast in his own state for an ineligible candidate and/or vacate the results of his state's election, although in Alabama, it wouldn't matter. But, once this happens, it could force other states or the nation as whole to try to reconcile Obama's lack of Constitutional eligibility.

35 posted on 12/15/2012 7:21:02 PM PST by edge919
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To: edge919
A state judge certainly has the power to invalidate the votes cast in his own state for an ineligible candidate and/or vacate the results of his state's election . . .

Not unless the state legislature specifically grants that power.

Article II Section 1: Each State shall appoint, in such a Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors . . .

Legislative power over Presidential elector appointment is thus plenary. That is why there are fifty various statutes regarding elector appointment. I have not looked specifically at AL statutes and don't care enough to take the time, but unless AL specifically provides for judicial review of qualifications, the courts lack jurisdiction.

Also, courts love precedent. Allowing courts to toss election results is a bad habit to develop in a representative republic.

36 posted on 12/16/2012 4:06:07 AM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: Jacquerie

Several states have this power granted through specific legislation. They have the power to decide who can and can’t be on their ballots, many with specific requirements to meet constitutional eligibility. The courts, through the Constitution of the United States, have the enumerated power to resolve controversies arising under the Constitution.


37 posted on 12/16/2012 10:21:23 PM PST by edge919
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To: edge919

As per my post #24, the deadline was 12/11/12.


38 posted on 12/17/2012 2:09:02 AM PST by Jacquerie ("How few were left who had seen the republic!" - Tacitus, The Annals)
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To: Jacquerie
No judge can, or will boot a sitting President from office.
That is a good thing.


But a Judge can order a Secretary of State to confirm the eligibility of a candidate. And give that SOS any needed legal backing to obtain such proof as necessary.

So, while a judge can not remove a President from office, he can ensure the release of document that would otherwise be hidden.

A judge is not going to have Obama removed from office, but what if he orders document be released, and those documents where to show that Obama, as a result of being adopted by the member of a foriegn military, and being removed from his USC mother's passport while living overseas, lost his US citizenship. And that he regained it by naturalizing at a later date? While that might not provide a means for Obama's removal by a court, it's release to the public might be enough to start an impeachment process.

I agree that Obama will never be removed by court. The only way he will be removed is through impeachment. And the only way that is going to occur, is if there is public information that Obama is not a NBC. And that is not going to happen unless a court orders the release of documentation that shows that.
39 posted on 12/17/2012 8:06:06 AM PST by MMaschin
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