Some real solutions for making schools safer.

Vanity | 12-20-2012 | servo1969

[fattigermaster]

Charge parents $1000 per child per year for public schooling. Give $1000 tax credit per child per year for home schooling.

[stuartcr]

What about the thousands of female teachers that don’t want to carry a firearm? If I was required to carry one, I could want my salary increased to reflect the added responsibility.

Too bad there aren’t many 25-50yo men that want to be teachers.

[Kenny]

stuartcr wrote: What about the thousands of female teachers that don’t want to carry a firearm? If I was required to carry one,Mace or tasers.

[chris37]

Put these men in schools and keep them there. All day, every day. Fortify entrances to schools and classrooms. This needs to be done in every single school. Install electronic and secondary security systems staffed by plain clothes personel who are carrying concealed.

If something is precious to you, then defend it like you mean it, otherwise, it's obviously not precious to you.

[BlueMondaySkipper]

Did you read the article? No one would be required, and any that wished to carry would be subject to proper training, etc. I would also add parents into the mix who could do the same training and help out for free on a volunteer basis. Heck, just the fact of having this ALLOWED would itself have a deterrent on attacks, even if the specific school didn't actually have anyone carrying on site.

[EQAndyBuzz]

“Too bad there aren’t many 25-50yo men that want to be teachers.”

There are. However, they would rather hire unqualified minorities to fill quotas then hire men. When I applied, I got the, “I am sorry, you are not what we are looking for” talk from administration.

[DustyMoment]

First of all the doors should lock when closing and people should need to be buzzed in. I know, I know. A lot of the schools were already doing this and then stopped because it became too much of a hassle.

Sandy Hook had already implemented this and it did not prevent Adam Lanza from getting in. He knew when the doors wete locked and entered the school shortly before the doors were locked. So, how is this a solution?

I'm starting to come down on the side of arming the teachers. Someone here at FR posted an interesting graphic that showed an armed teacher in Israel and an unarmed teacher in America. In the last 10 years in Israel, there have been 8 students killed at chool. Compare that to 323 American students killed in school in the last 10 years and tell me what works best?

[Windflier]

Probably the easiest, quickest, and most effective thing that schools can do, is to take down the "gun-free zone" signs, and replace them with signs saying,

WARNING: Adults on this campus are armed, and will use deadly force in case of threat to life.

Spread the word through internal announcements and news media.

This can be done before actually arming any teachers or administrators, and will act as an immediate deterrent against would-be assailants.

[SnakeDoctor]

I had a response ... but I forgot what it was when I saw the pictures.

SnakeDoc

[Mr. Know It All]

These are good suggestions. I’m going to share this. Thanks!

[Dead Corpse]

Start here.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1402637_The_Artemis_Project_NO_MORE_INNOCENT_VICTIMS.html&page=1

[Dead Corpse]

I’m a 43 yo IT guy in a school District. About a 1/3 of our faculty are male. One of our Principals is a current National Guard Reservist.

[Rebel_Ace]

Since Israel has a population of about 8-9 Million, and the US has about 330 million, the comparison of 8 to 323 works out to just about the same rate per capita, so I would not claim that as convincing evidence.

Not trying to start a fight, just looking at the numbers.

[GrandJediMasterYoda]

I live in the totalitarian state of New York city under Despot Mike Bloomberg (luckily so far, internet is not yet banned under Despot Bloomberg so I can still write to the outside world), and what I find curious is if you wander around the city in high crowd areas like Times Square, Time Warner center, 5th avenue, you’ll almost always find cops wearing full riot gear, helmets, brandishing automatic rifles. Yet around the schools absolutely nothing like that. Not even armed guards as far as I can tell.

To me this is done on purpose by Despot Bloomberg to let the people know they are living in a police state while at the same time letting them know they have absolutely no protection when it comes to them or their children, the better to submit to the police state like cowering lambs.

Pretty curious isn’t it? We are given the reason that these cops are armed like this in these high crowd areas because of the threat of terror, yet what good are guns going to be against some Mohammed who blows up his car which was attempted quite easily a few years ago and did not succeed because the explosives malfunctioned. Estimates were at a few 1000 people dead if these explosives did go off. Under the noses of these armed cops, Mohommed simply parked his explosive laden vehicle, lit the fuse and walked calmly away. No shots, nothing.

Yet how many school shootings have their been already as compared to some place like Times square? I say all this to show this guy Despot Bloomberg is completely full of BS when it comes to protecting kids or even the people. He does not give a damn about them. It’s all about power with this guy. Holding on and expanding his power in the totalitarian state of NYC. Making sure the people are not armed so as to keep them oppressed and cowering under the thumb of his police state. Continuing to steal the money of the people, dictate lifestyles to them, how they should eat, dress, work, play and how and when they should even help the less fortunate. Yes you read that right, he confiscates food donated to the homeless.

[alloysteel]

Years ago, I recall a scene from a movie, in which the frontier schoolmarm had a little trouble with some adolecent types that were about the sixth grade or so, and were already shaving, They were giving her all kinds of grief, which she settled in a rather unique way - she produced a six-shooter and had them stand up at the front of the room, with one of the old-fashioned inkwells from the school desk, filled up, on their heads. Then, rather like William Tell, she shot the inkwells, the ink ran down over them, and the formerly truculent youngsters, with tears streaming down their cheeks, were sent home, to explain to their mothers why their heads, faces and clothes were ink-stained. For sure, they would never be able to explain this to their fathers.

Dang, I wish I could recall the title of that movie. It might have been something about Annie Oakley.

Those kids NEVER gave her any more guff.

[Dead Corpse]

Look harder at the numbers. Which of the US deaths occurred in areas/States with heavy gun control laws as compared to other areas.

It's... instructive, to say the least.

[Dick Bachert]

A few days after the tragic Sandy Hook school murders, a young Marine in fatigues stationed himself at the front entrance of the Nashville elementary school his two children attend. Another parent heard him admit to a reporter that he was unarmed. The other parent commented that, even though the young Marine standing guard was not armed, it made him “feel better” to know he was there.

It’s often been observed that “perception is more important than reality”. The observation is often correct. It is never MORE CORRECT than for those we’ve come to call “liberals”. I prefer “statist” but “liberal” has morphed from its classic meaning to the other end of the spectrum so I’ll stay with it.

Since these folks operate almost entirely on EMOTION and FEELING, REALITY seldom allows FACTS to intrude upon the delusional worldview they have constructed and the comfort that provides them. It is that illogical, irrational and delusional mindset that prompts many of them to continue to quest after a Utopian society. The thought that such a society can and will never be achieved in a fallen world populated with failed sinners never penetrates whatever remains of their cognitive consciousness. It’s a DANGEROUS WORLD and, as the liberals continue to “define deviancy down”, it becomes more dangerous daily.

There is another, far more sinister, level of the “liberal” call for gun control.

It was Mencken who offered that “The urge to save humanity is most often a false front for the URGE TO RULE.” He clearly had been a student of the liberal politicians of his day. Were he alive today and able to observe the likes of Chuck Schumer, Diane Feinstein, Obama and the rest, he’d almost certainly have used far stronger language to frame his sage observation.

To conclude, dozens of studies reveal the FACTS concerning gun control. Those FACTS are that where firearms are widely and READILY available to law-abiding citizens, CRIME GOES DOWN! The liberals who willfully ignore the FACTUAL EVIDENCE and continue to call for gun control (i.e. the DISARMING of DECENT CITIZENS, thereby denying them the ability to exercise their God-given right to self-defense) are those about whom Mencken wrote: Their goal is NOT about preserving life. It is about the hell-bent pursuit of the impossible to achieve Utopian world where all are equal but some (that’d be THEM) are MORE equal than others (that’d be US).

There are many PRO-RTKABA videos on You Tube that your often busy lives don’t allow you to find on your own. Search there for “Gun Control”, watch them – and, more importantly – SHARE THEM with the folks in your orbit.

We’re in a fight. And losing will ultimately cost us much more than our right to our guns.

Dick Bachert 12/19/2012

[stuartcr]

Would that of worked last week? would you get close enough to an armed man to use mace?

[stuartcr]

So should all those already hired minorities be armed? For years, I’ve read how freepers don’t think much of liberal, woosie teachers in our public schools, now we want them all to be armed? Or use LEOs that most here denigrate as jack-booted thugs?