Before this gets out of hand...(David Gregory Crime)

Knitebane Manor ^ | 27 December, 2012 | Knitebane

[marktwain]

David Gregory needs to please turn himself in to the authorities.

Mr. Gregory has been accused of having a piece of metal of the wrong size. We've all seen the video of him waving that metal box and spring about on Meet The Press, a box and spring that is illegal to posses in the District of Columbia. We can debate the logic and sense of the law and how it is interpreted at a later date. There is no time for that now. Mr. Gregory needs to act before this spins out of control.

He needs to do the right and merciful thing and turn himself in before someone tells a member of the FBI HRT where his family lives.

Officially the penalty for his crime is 1 year in jail. Unofficially the penalty is much, much more. Vicki and Samuel Weaver are sadly unavailable to comment but before their fate is repeated I beseech Mr. Gregory to do the humane thing and surrender himself to the authorities. It's not worth having your children watch their mother die. A year in prison is nothing compared to knowing that your son will never see his 15th birthday because you thought that being punished for having a piece of metal of the wrong size is not a serious matter.

It's a very serious matter. Deadly serious. Turn yourself in, Mr. Gregory. Turn yourself in now.

[Rifleman]

The federal scum ambushed Harris, young Weaver and their dog, from concealment, on Weaver’s land, killing the dog. They did not identify themselves before firing.

You are defending murderous scum. And I am morally certain that Horiuchi, the filth, took his shot on Vickie and Randy Weaver in an attempt at a twofer to recover his score after missing his first shot at Randy.

[suijuris]

But the siege was about the death of US Marshal William Degan, not a piece of metal.

It was not conclusive who shot Degan. There were even some reports of him being shot by his own people. Regardless, no one was convicted of Degan's death. However, it is common for the authorities to blame the death of officers on someone other than themselves when they in fact precipitate the event by their own unlawful activity. This was true in Weaver's case.

What the Feds did to the Weaver family was a travesty and the fact that Randy Weaver's family was awarded 3 million in a subsequent lawsuit seems to support that fact.

[marktwain]

The prosecutors had all the evidence itemized against Harris. Then they provided Harris' counsel with an itemized list that was improperly numbered, making it difficult for Harris' counsel to identify and refute the evidence.

So, in your opinion, were they just incompetent, did they think they were above the law, or did they not want the scrutiny of having the evidence displayed and refuted in court?

[fattigermaster]

If a govt gulag is our future, the agents reading this thread have already chosen the head kapo.

[wideawake]

I think they were doing their usual half-assed job and that they ran into an attorney who was way better at his job than they were at theirs.

I think it was some combination of incompetence and entitlement.

[marktwain]

I think that is uncalled for. By all accounts, Degan was a good guy. He was lied to and placed in a bad position by his superiors and the people who lied to them.

He was another victim of the ATF.

[combat_boots]

“what the government did at Ruby Ridge was evil plain and simple.”

Tie that up with Waco, and you have The Man telling you how it is all around, and The Man will kill you just to make sure you know.

I saw the Waco film. That was outright murder.

[wideawake]

The federal scum ambushed Harris, young Weaver and their dog, from concealment, on Weaver’s land, killing the dog.

Not his land, not from concealment, and not scum.

And I am morally certain that Horiuchi

Of course. I forgot that you have the power to read minds.

Take it down a notch, Jackson.

[DManA]

Don’t have to read his mind. He killed an innocent kid in cold blood. In defiance of his ROE.

[kennyboy509]

The surviving members of the Weaver family filed a wrongful death suit. To avoid trial and a possibly higher settlement, the federal government awarded Randy Weaver a $100,000 settlement and his three daughters $1 million each in August 1995. In the out-of-court settlement, the government did not admit any wrongdoing in the deaths of Sammy and Vicki Weaver.

Those who don’t remember “correctly” are doomed to repeat it.

[rolling_stone]

so how many ATF agents have been arrested and convicted for running guns to Mexico and having a least one US Federal Agent killed and 300 plus Mexicans..