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The Time to Eradicate Retread Blog Pimps Has Arrived
New York Daily Sun ^ | 14/01/13 | Dick McDonald

Posted on 01/14/2013 8:30:08 AM PST by nyds

Today the people of the United States of America have an opportunity to make the world a better place. Rather than wasting time compromising the political ideologies of progressives and conservatives, Americans could use that time to employ modern economic and scientific advancements to eradicate poverty. The USA could lead the world into a new era where prosperity is the rule rather than the exception.

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1 posted on 01/14/2013 8:30:23 AM PST by nyds
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To: nyds

As long as there are lazy shiftless people there will be poverty...


2 posted on 01/14/2013 8:33:51 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: nyds

I would argue we have already eradicated poverty. America’s poor are the fattest people on the planet. Basic childhood diseases such as polio, smallpox, etc... have been eradicated. Everyone in this country can have basic food and shelter easily even if they don’t lift a finger to help themselves.

In fact, our prosperity has resulted in a whole new set of problems - spiritual and moral poverty


3 posted on 01/14/2013 8:34:14 AM PST by PGR88
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To: nyds

Dick McDonald: Space Cadet!


4 posted on 01/14/2013 8:34:35 AM PST by Ken522
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To: nyds

Just send everyone a million bucks. All our problems would be solved. It works just this way for lottery winners, doesn’t it?


5 posted on 01/14/2013 8:37:09 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: nyds

That was quite an interesting way of framing Social Security privatization. It’s true as well, but people almost never approach it from that direction.


6 posted on 01/14/2013 8:37:27 AM PST by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: nyds

No more welfare, food stamps, housing, medical care, etc!!!

Everyone make their own way in this world or quit taking up space on this planet!!!!


7 posted on 01/14/2013 8:37:38 AM PST by dalereed
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To: nyds

>> Rather than wasting time compromising the political ideologies of progressives and conservatives...

By using the word “progressive”, which is a euphemism for “turd” favored by the left, the author outs himself as one of them.

>> Americans could use that time to employ modern economic and scientific advancements to eradicate poverty...

It would be more beneficial over the long haul to employ modern weapons advancements to eradicate progressives.


8 posted on 01/14/2013 8:38:01 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: nyds
We had a wonderful program in place for eradicating poverty.

America's poor were materially better off than the poor anywhere in the world and materially better off than our middle class of 50 years ago. It was called the free enterprise system.

Then we started subsidizing and importing poverty with no thought as to how to pay for it . . . and we got more of it. Go figure.

9 posted on 01/14/2013 8:38:13 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: nyds

I thought LBJ did that already in the 1960’s. See how well it worked out?


10 posted on 01/14/2013 8:38:13 AM PST by pgkdan ( "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: nyds
So the basic idea is to invest each person's 15.3% combined Social Security and Medicare tax into individual accounts. What happens to those who are currently on SS and Medicare? This year's payments aren't saved by the government (no matter what financial book cooking is happening to make it look like there is a lockbox with the cash). That means the government would have to grab another 15.3% tax to pay for current spending. Also, those who make little or nothing would have little to nothing saved through this program and thus still be poor.
11 posted on 01/14/2013 8:39:46 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: nyds

Just start handing out trillion dollar coins. Problem solved.


12 posted on 01/14/2013 8:42:13 AM PST by TADSLOS ( "I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians."-George Mason)
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To: nyds

Quit paying people not to work.


13 posted on 01/14/2013 8:42:27 AM PST by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: nyds
Given the choice of becoming a millionaire without investing a dime out of your present paycheck or staying on welfare and dependency programs most will opt for the former.

LOLOLOL!

If most people opted for making a paycheck, they wouldn't BE 'staying on welfare and dependency programs'!

Sometimes the backassward logic of these progressive critters is SUCH a hoot!

14 posted on 01/14/2013 8:44:02 AM PST by MamaTexan (To follow Original Constitutional Intent, one MUST acknowledge the Right of secession)
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To: nyds

So this is not an Onion spoof?

Universal Savings Account (USA) for everybody! You are forced to ‘save’ for your own good.

Now it is time for Obama$Care to take care of the ‘poor’. Just think of the children!

The author might as well start the United Federation of Planets.


15 posted on 01/14/2013 8:44:08 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: nyds

“There will always be poor” - Jesus Christ.


16 posted on 01/14/2013 8:44:24 AM PST by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
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To: pgkdan
I would love to get a government statistician on the witness stand and ask him how poverty is calculated. I have heard, but never officially confirmed by someone in government, that non-cash payments are not included in the poverty calculations so no matter how much Medicaid, section 8 housing, food stamps or a thousand and one other programs other than direct cash payments do not count for lifting people out of poverty. Thus someone who is one dollar below the poverty level and thus "poor" gets thousands of dollars of food stamps and Medicaid will still be poor even though by any rational definition that government loot has lifted her above the poverty line.
17 posted on 01/14/2013 8:44:51 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: nyds

Pres. Obama, the great savior, can just make poverty illegal by executive order and that would solve everything.

The age old problem solved.

After all, it works with the budget, right?


18 posted on 01/14/2013 8:45:02 AM PST by Only1choice____Freedom (As long as America's tolerence of failure is not overwhelmed by a desire to succeed, we will fail.)
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To: nyds

The median household income in the US is less than $52,000 per year yet if you divide the total public aid spending by the number of recipients the per person amount is about $60,000 per year.

Putting aside how many people are in a “household” in this demographic group, just how much more should we be spending before the job of eliminating poverty is completed and we can move on to other important social issues?


19 posted on 01/14/2013 8:48:55 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Only1choice____Freedom

pres Obama needs no stink’n budget.

he’s been operating without a single budget.

/wonder how it will work if everybody operates without any budget


20 posted on 01/14/2013 8:50:30 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: KarlInOhio
So the basic idea is to invest each person's 15.3% combined Social Security and Medicare tax into individual accounts.

You ask excellent and totally logical questions, and even the authors idea of privatizing accounts is not a bad one.

The fatal assumption comes when one thinks the government has ANY interest in 'ending poverty'.

21 posted on 01/14/2013 8:51:58 AM PST by MamaTexan (To follow Original Constitutional Intent, one MUST acknowledge the Right of secession)
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To: KarlInOhio

My neighbor who is close to my age,and who apparently made about the same annual income now collects disability practically equal to my take-home pay of a 40 hour job.
We both have back problems.He sits ayt home doped on prescribed painkillers in a rented house watching TV and gets help with rent and food as well.

I got a job where my back issues don’t really matter,and mortgage payments.

Which one of us is living the American dream?


22 posted on 01/14/2013 8:53:46 AM PST by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: nyds

All kidding aside.

I have grown to be extra weary whenever I hear people starting their idea with phrases like ‘Today the people of the United States of America have an opportunity to make the world a better place.’

Especially if the proposed ‘remedy’ is not based on individuals’ own decision.


23 posted on 01/14/2013 8:55:40 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: nyds

Reagan put us on this path, but it didn’t involve Big Government, so the politicians, bureaucrats, media, and other useful idiots put an end to it.


24 posted on 01/14/2013 8:55:57 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: nyds
A vibrant growing economy is the best cure for poverty.
Good economy means businesses will be hiring.
Of course there will always be relative poverty, as 50% will always be below the median income, no matter what you do.
Let people work, let people keep the money they earn, let people enjoy the rewards of their work and those who are still poor will be the people who would be poor in any environment.

25 posted on 01/14/2013 9:01:00 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: nyds

As the lazy hillbilly said 48 years ago when Lyndon Johnson declared WAR on Poverty....”If the President wants me in THAT WAR he is going to have to draft me!”


26 posted on 01/14/2013 9:06:24 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: csmusaret

bump


27 posted on 01/14/2013 9:07:22 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: nyds
he Plan merely returns to the taxpayer the payroll taxes withheld by government and puts those funds into a “USA” a universal savings account owned by the taxpayer which accumulates, compounds and grows into real wealth during a worker’s lifetime.

The flaw is that the government will sooner or later raid or seize the funds for its own wasteful spending.

28 posted on 01/14/2013 9:11:03 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: nyds

Is the New york Daily Sun just a fancy looking wordpress blog designed to fake people into believing it is a newspaper?

Shame

About

The New York Daily Sun provides readers with an impressive array of stories ranging from news& politics to technology & fashion.

The New York Daily’s Sun’s libertarian approach to New York news and World News is reflected in its staff writers who have diverse and interesting backgrounds and the panache to write excellent copy.

New York Daily Sun runs campaigns about issues relevant to New Yorkers. If you feel there is a campaign we should be running please contact the editor at editor@newyorkdailysun.com

Welcome to New York’s Finest Daily Newspaper!


29 posted on 01/14/2013 9:17:06 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: nyds

http://www.alliednewspapers.org/officers.html

Proprietors:

Mr Charles Suntai III

Charles has been successfully involved in the technology and financial service sector in the US & Asia for the last two decades. His investment vehicle is recognised as one of the finest in Asia and Allied Newspapers represents another acquisition for his portfolio of media assets alongside previous forays into VOIP and 3G. Charles lives in Hong Kong with his wife Jenny and two children and enjoys baseball and Bach.

Mr Dominic M Wightman

Dominic has been Editor of London’s Westminster Journal since 2007and brings a wealth of Editorial and Leadership skills to Allied Newspapers. A Briton, Dominic speaks several languages and has worked widely on behalf of business interests; in Asia, Africa, North & South America, as well as in Europe. Dominic lives between London and Caracas and is also married with two children. Although a keen Tory back in the UK, Dominic has stressed how important it is that Allied Newspapers are a
crucible for the full gambit of mainstream views. Dominic is a Liverpool FC supporter as well as a keen England rugby fan.

Editor-in-Chief

William Barns-Graham

William graduated from Oxford with a degree in Philosophy and Theology and has an impressive CV in journalism. Writing for various publications on topics ranging from sport and music to politics and finance, William is able to apply his pen to pretty much anything. William has edited and written for various magazines and newspapers and even spent a summer writing in La Paz, Bolivia. William is also Editor of the New York Daily Sun having dreamed of writing in New York since he was child, moved by the works of writers like Fitzgerald, Kerouac and Ginsberg. Aside from his writing, William is an avid musician - plays the guitar - and is always listening to new music. William is a lifelong Arsenal FC supporter.

Company Secretary

Joanna Chen

Joanna heads up Allied’s Hong Kong office having joined from a leading offshore firm in 2011. She practices both BVI and Cayman Islands laws, having specialised in advising local and international financial institutions and onshore law firms on the offshore facets of a wide range of finance transactions, including acquisition finance, bond issues and project finance. She also advises on general corporate transactions (mergers and acquisitions, joint ventures, takeovers and restructurings) while acting as Cayman Islands counsel on HKSE listings. An expert in libel law, Joanna speaks English, French and Cantonese. Bizarrely, Joanna has a soft spot for Middlesbrough FC.


30 posted on 01/14/2013 9:19:42 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: nyds
The Time to Eradicate Poverty Has Arrived

New York Daily Sun ^ | 14/01/13 | Dick McDonald

Typical liberal dumbass stooge! Hey McDonald, LBJ declared a war on poverty in 1964, and stated that poverty would be eradicated in 10 years (1974). How is that war coming along? We now have more people percentage-wise below poverty level than it was in 1964.

These liberals are the epitome of stupidity and wasted programs & policies. We need our own conservative country more than ever!

31 posted on 01/14/2013 9:28:52 AM PST by rcrngroup
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To: TADSLOS
That idea is so stupid that it just might work. Let's apply some liberal-think:

1. First, we have to define "poor." In the current zeitgeist it seems that the only people who aren't considered poor under any circumstances are millionaires. Ergo, a person with a million dollars cannot be considered likey one of the dreaded "working poor." So a million dollars it is.

2. Next, we instantly cure poverty by sending a check for $1 million to every American American citizen who isn't already a millionaire.

3. It would cost $300 trillion to honor these checks, so we get the mint to coin 300 $1 Trillion dollar coins. We could put LBJ's face on them as a consolation prize for having lost the War on Poverty. Obama can keep them in his bottom desk drawer. That way he can shine them whenever he likes and look at his majestic reflection in them.

Voila! Problem solved!! Next up: providing enough whellbarows so that no American is left without a way to carry enough money when he goes to the grocery store for bread.

32 posted on 01/14/2013 9:29:07 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: nyds

So sorry but the “time to eliminate poverty”. Isn’t herte yet. The American public just voted for 4 more years of economic ruin and job losses.


33 posted on 01/14/2013 9:32:52 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: nyds
The Time to Eradicate Poverty Has Arrived
You mean fifty (50!) years of LBJ's Great Society didn't work?
Unexpected!
34 posted on 01/14/2013 9:33:44 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: nyds; humblegunner; Admin Moderator

You don’t say much do you?

I dislike that the New York Daily Sun could be confused with several other news papers by people who aren’t paying attention.

I don’t see much Libertarianism in the articles you post. I see arguments for the reasonableness of progressive policies.

You haven’t done any thing wrong and I’m not the posting police, but what is your intent? What do you hope to accomplish publishing these on Free Republic?


35 posted on 01/14/2013 9:34:08 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: nyds

So sorry but the “time to eliminate poverty”. Isn’t herte yet. The American public just voted for 4 more years of economic ruin and job losses. “ELections have consequences” you know.


36 posted on 01/14/2013 9:36:04 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: nyds

What part of “The Poor you will always have with you” does he not understand?


37 posted on 01/14/2013 9:36:30 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: PGR88

Nailed It!


38 posted on 01/14/2013 9:36:30 AM PST by Clock King
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To: nyds

Many a tyrant has come to power on the promise of eradicating poverty.


39 posted on 01/14/2013 9:38:06 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: listenhillary

Good points all.


40 posted on 01/14/2013 9:39:29 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: nyds
It's simple. The demand for free stuff is exponential, the supply is not.

But Lefties don't believe in math.

Just the kind of "science" that gives them the answer they want.

41 posted on 01/14/2013 9:42:35 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: humblegunner

The blog led to http://www.theusaplan.com/ which isn’t a bad idea.

The deception to get people to the other web site, not such a good idea.


42 posted on 01/14/2013 9:45:48 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: nyds

Just announce that the “poverty line” is now $5.00 per month. Presto! Everyone is living above the new poverty line and therefore no longer poor.

This is so simple I surprised Zero hasn’t thought of it yet...or even V.P. Crazy Joe.


43 posted on 01/14/2013 9:49:13 AM PST by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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To: central_va
As long as there are lazy shiftless people there will be poverty...

Exactly - is the author suggesting that these people be eradicated as the only way to get rid of poverty? No poor people = no poverty...

44 posted on 01/14/2013 9:52:08 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: nyds

I have learned by experience that you CANNOT help some people. No matter how much you try to help, they ALWAYS make bad choices and do stupid things. So utopian marxist morons should not be taking MY money to try do something that is impossible . . . just to make themselves feel good . . . makes me feel terrible!!!


45 posted on 01/14/2013 9:53:49 AM PST by RatRipper (Self-centeredness, greed, envy, deceit and lawless corruption has killed this once great nation.)
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To: nyds

The poor will always be with us. - Jesus.


46 posted on 01/14/2013 9:56:20 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The only thing that Hollywood gets right about guns is that criminals will always get them.)
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To: nyds

Today the people of the United States of America have an opportunity to make the world a better place.


Any sane person would stop reading right there!


47 posted on 01/14/2013 9:58:36 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: nyds

they will just redefine “poverty”. the reformer’s problem isn’t truly impoverished people. their problem is the difference in lifestyles. the problem is that there are comfortable people.


48 posted on 01/14/2013 10:00:40 AM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: nyds

What poverty? Haven’t we won LBJ’s War on Poverty?


49 posted on 01/14/2013 10:02:27 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: nyds

No matter HOW much money is given to poor people, they will still be poor. It’s a self imposed mind set.


50 posted on 01/14/2013 10:03:42 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Pray for revival. <BCC><)
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