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Dem. Jerrold Nadler: "2 to 4 self-defense shots are enough," he's a jackass--Period
Coach is Right ^ | 1/17/13 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 01/17/2013 9:00:04 AM PST by Oldpuppymax

For liberals facts are never really important. “Truth” to liberals like Democrat New York City Congressman Jerrold Nadler is what he “feels” it is. Nadler has said: “Hunters don’t use large ammunition clips, and as far as self- defense, I mean who are you defending yourself against? If you’re defending yourself against a robber… two or three or four shots should be enough—period.”

It’s a safe bet Nadler has never faced an assailant fueled by adrenalin drugs and alcohol. That doesn’t matter, of course, since no one will ever challenge Nadler on his supposed knowledge of the danger presented by people who are psychotic and drunk – “period.”

The “period” at the end of Nadler’s pronouncement is the classic liberal dismissal of anyone daring to disagree with...

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1 posted on 01/17/2013 9:00:13 AM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

In his case, he may be right.

I figure it’d take a .375 H&H Magnum to bring down that hippo.


2 posted on 01/17/2013 9:03:34 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: Oldpuppymax

Two shots, you heard me you stupid private sector morons!

We in government know what's good for you tax paying peons and you'll do what the hell your told!

Don't like it? Too damn bad!

3 posted on 01/17/2013 9:03:46 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Oldpuppymax

We are defending ourselved from YOU, you self-righteous SOB.


4 posted on 01/17/2013 9:03:46 AM PST by cld51860 (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: Oldpuppymax

But ... what if the guy who was attacking my basic right to life (or some other basic right) were incredibly fat? I mean: huge. I mean — nearly bullet-proof due to the quantity of lard he was carrying? Wouldn’t I want to shoot that person a lot more than just 3 or 4 times? I’m just sayin’


5 posted on 01/17/2013 9:04:03 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: I cannot think of a name

I’m thinking, Bunker Buster, myself...


6 posted on 01/17/2013 9:05:02 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Hope and Change has become Attack and Obfuscate.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
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7 posted on 01/17/2013 9:05:26 AM PST by ZX12R
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To: Oldpuppymax

Then matbe Obama ought to sign an EO limiting all federal personnel authorized to carry a gun limiting them to 4 rounds.


8 posted on 01/17/2013 9:06:11 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The only thing that Hollywood gets right about guns is that criminals will always get them.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
By the time New York is finished, to stand a chance of defending your self from multiple attackers, your going to have to look like the Pirates of old, with 6 or 8 separate single shot pistols going up your sides. Fire one, drop it, fire the second drop it, fire the third...
9 posted on 01/17/2013 9:06:37 AM PST by apillar
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To: Oldpuppymax

Has anyone done any research on the average shots fired in a home self-defense situation? That should help towards settling this.

The only thing close to this I’ve seen, are the articles in the beginning of each ‘American Rifleman’ magazine on citizens defending themselves. None of them involve more than a few shots being fired by the defenders.


10 posted on 01/17/2013 9:07:11 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: Oldpuppymax
Dem. Jerrold Nadler: "2 to 4 self-defense shots are enough,"

Well, it's a good thing NY passed a law that only groups of 4 or less can assault people.

Otherwise, this would be a completely ridiculous statement.

11 posted on 01/17/2013 9:07:50 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: apillar

Unfortunately, New York will deny you the permits to own that many pistols.


12 posted on 01/17/2013 9:08:45 AM PST by GunsareOK
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To: Oldpuppymax
I agree. 2-4 shots EACH.


13 posted on 01/17/2013 9:10:07 AM PST by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Jerrold Nadler from the Ministry of Bullets with his latest directive.

Next week Mr. Nadler will tell us how many condoms we will be able to have. After a background check of course.


14 posted on 01/17/2013 9:10:07 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Nadler has never defended himself against a balogna sandwich.

WE need weapons to defend against the tyranny of a-wipes like him ,Chuck Schumer and the Resident.
People who would take away our Constitutional rights.


15 posted on 01/17/2013 9:10:20 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Oldpuppymax

On May 8, 1991 two shooters ambushed Lucchese soldier Peter “Fat Pete” Chiodo at a gas station in Staten Island where he was working on a car. Chiodo received 12 bullet wounds in the arms, legs, and torso, but survived the attack.Doctors credited Chiodo’s 500 pound weight for saving his life


16 posted on 01/17/2013 9:10:37 AM PST by slumber1 (Don't taze me bro!)
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To: stuartcr

“Has anyone done any research on the average shots fired in a home self-defense situation? That should help towards settling this.”

It’s basically keep firing until the subject is down. Also be prepared to kill your assailant, center mass. No trick shots to the leg or so called warning shots. Those will get you killed.


17 posted on 01/17/2013 9:12:27 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: stuartcr
Has anyone done any research on the average shots fired in a home self-defense situation? That should help towards settling this.

The highly-trained, super cops average about a dozen per take down, while our military uses about 500,000 per kill. But for you, 2 is more than enough, because after that you deserve to die for having the audacity to arm yourself.

18 posted on 01/17/2013 9:12:28 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

2 to 4 shots might be enough if you’re using an elephant gun...


19 posted on 01/17/2013 9:12:39 AM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers ("I'm not anti-anything, I just wanna be free." - Mike Muir)
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To: stuartcr

If the gold standard of evaluation is to “save one life”, then we must allow for unlimited self-defense shots.


20 posted on 01/17/2013 9:13:28 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: Oldpuppymax

When this jackass restricts the military’s rifles to “2-4” shots per self defence act, then perhaps we’ll stop for a secodn and very very briefly concider his suggestion, and then realize he’s an idiot, and mvoe right along from there


21 posted on 01/17/2013 9:15:17 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Oldpuppymax

“10-20 pounds overweight is enough for anyone! Anyone over that should be arrested!” J. Nadler!


22 posted on 01/17/2013 9:18:48 AM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: I cannot think of a name

.600 Nitro Express


23 posted on 01/17/2013 9:20:24 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: SampleMan

I’m talking about home-invasion situations, the kind normal folk are most likely to encounter.


24 posted on 01/17/2013 9:21:27 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: stuartcr
Has anyone done any research on the average shots fired in a home self-defense situation? That should help towards settling this.

Research?

Most fools understand the majority of home invasions are conducted with multiple armed suspects. Homes are easy targets as they generally have no cameras, security guards, etc. Someone knocks on the door and the stupid homeowner opens the door and gets a gun jammed into his face. 3 more enter the home and while beating you about the head, they're raping your wife for for kicks...When done they take ya to your bank and ya empty it for them...later you and your spouse are found dead in your bedroom...

We need more research!

25 posted on 01/17/2013 9:22:25 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Wow! I didn;t know NY allowed turds that big.


26 posted on 01/17/2013 9:22:46 AM PST by SAMWolf (Looking for my generations Lexington and Concord.)
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To: stuartcr

2 to 4 shots seem reasonable to Nadler, because he is so fat that no one can miss him.


27 posted on 01/17/2013 9:24:38 AM PST by mwl8787
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To: Oldpuppymax

If he really believes this then why does it take 4 cops and 73 bullets to bring down a perp in NYC all the time?


28 posted on 01/17/2013 9:24:42 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: headstamp 2

I know, but I’m looking for actual incidents. That data must be somewhere.


29 posted on 01/17/2013 9:24:57 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: Oldpuppymax

A) Did Nadler ever think that multiple robbers/attackers might come at someone?

B) Did he ever consider that a victim of an attack might not hit their assailant with every shot?

C) From now on, I assume his security detail, and those of all Liberals, will only have at total of 2 to 4 bullets. That should be more than enough to thwart any attack.


30 posted on 01/17/2013 9:25:43 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Why not just do the “Barney Fife” method: one round, kept in your pocket until needed.


31 posted on 01/17/2013 9:27:44 AM PST by Wordkraft (Remember who the Collaborators are.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

"...good chance a ricochet could hit him three times"

32 posted on 01/17/2013 9:28:15 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Oldpuppymax

My money’s on him having an armed body guard paid for by the taxpayers.


33 posted on 01/17/2013 9:28:30 AM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: dragnet2

he lookes like he is a poster child for bad eating habbits.

How about DUI conviction means you can’t buy, own, or posess an automobile?

If you are overweight you can’t buy, own, or posess ice cream or booze?


34 posted on 01/17/2013 9:28:42 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: dragnet2

I’m talking about police reports of actual home invasion incidents, that’s the research.

As I said, the only thing I’ve seen on paper are the articles in the NRA magazine.


35 posted on 01/17/2013 9:28:48 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: stuartcr

“Has anyone done any research...”

Why research the lib-tard Democrat argument for them? You, of course, may feel free to, but no thinking person would care what number you came up with.

The question, itself, is a falacy. Like asking “How many newspapers is a free press?” Go ahead and “research” it.


36 posted on 01/17/2013 9:29:15 AM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: dragnet2

I’m talking about police reports of actual home invasion incidents, that’s the research.

As I said, the only thing I’ve seen on paper are the articles in the NRA magazine.


37 posted on 01/17/2013 9:29:36 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: Oldpuppymax

My pigs would have trouble cleaning up this pile of debris


38 posted on 01/17/2013 9:30:05 AM PST by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: Oldpuppymax

This jackass doesn’t get to decide for peopel who afre perfectly able to decide for themselves how many bullets they want in their gun when defendign themselves- We don’t elect offocials because we the peopel are icnapable of deciding matters for ourselves, we hire officials to oversee the distribution of taxes and to fix our roads and bridges and alot money for certain projects- who the hell does this jackass thjink he is?


39 posted on 01/17/2013 9:30:54 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Oldpuppymax

What about these violent flash mobs? How many do you have to shoot before the rest disperse? Probably gonna need more than 2-4 bullets.


40 posted on 01/17/2013 9:31:10 AM PST by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: SENTINEL

why is there a child (bottom right) at this looting?

This congressman ASSUMES somebody else will protect him.

When the time comes, he will be the slow one the zombies eat first.


41 posted on 01/17/2013 9:33:37 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

Have you seen anything on this other than the NRA publication?

The question is not a fallacy. If there is supporting evidence, it should be brought out and used for rebuttal. There are police reports with this info, surely our freeper LEO, lawyers court personnel have been involved in these reports.


42 posted on 01/17/2013 9:33:40 AM PST by stuartcr ("I upraded my moral compass to a GPS, to keep up with the times.")
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To: Abathar
If he really believes this then why does it take 4 cops and 73 bullets to bring down a perp in NYC all the time?

There was an incident not too long ago where LEOs emptied something like 105 rounds at some small time crook in a vehicle...

But Ma and Pa in Hacksaw Arkansas should only be allowed a 2 shot pistol. This should be more than adequate for them.

43 posted on 01/17/2013 9:36:25 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I once talked to a cop who told me that back in the ‘60s he emptied his 38 cal. revolver into a fat urban racoon without much effect. Its been so long I forget why he was shooting at the racoon, but his point was that the racoon’s fat absorbed most of the energy from his 38 cal. rounds.
44 posted on 01/17/2013 9:37:25 AM PST by PUGACHEV
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To: longtermmemmory
why is there a child (bottom right) at this looting?

Bring your child to work the riot Day?

45 posted on 01/17/2013 9:39:37 AM PST by Michael.SF. (Obama lied, Stevens died.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Warning to Bruthas: Always attack in gangs of 5 or more!


46 posted on 01/17/2013 9:41:10 AM PST by rashley (Rashley)
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To: dragnet2
He looks like a frigging woodchuck in a trick suit.
47 posted on 01/17/2013 9:44:39 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: stuartcr

A single perp absorbed five .38 rounds in a home invasion in GA a couple weeks ago, and wasn’t immediately disabled. Therefore, five is not enough for a single perp.

Presuming that perps work in 2s or 3s, which they do. That gets you to over 10 rounds really fast.

That said, the 2A is intended to allow the citizenry to take on an out of control government. That points back toward the need to have military type capacities.


48 posted on 01/17/2013 9:48:01 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: longtermmemmory
"why is there a child (bottom right) at this looting?"

Mom had to take him along. Dad was out shopping.


49 posted on 01/17/2013 9:49:23 AM PST by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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To: stuartcr

No, the question IS a falacy. Since there is no meaning in the result, there is no pupose to the question or research other than to delay or deflect the argument.

The “right to bear arms” is exactly that, and an empty magazine is not arms.

Besides, there are better questions that this stupid falacy keeps us from asking.

Can we remain an armed and free people as the Founders intended while whole generations of little boys are doped out if their minds for the convenience of “public school teachers” to enjoy a classroom filled with quiet zombies?

Can we lose psychiatry as a medicine and psychology as a science to the Alinsky-left and still be a nation of people we would like to see armed?

Those are REAL questions that are NOT being asked while we are lead by our noses through the Democrat’s debate.


50 posted on 01/17/2013 9:50:30 AM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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