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California Tries to Counteract Residents Fleeing Increased Taxes
Breitbart's Big Government ^ | January 18, 2013 | Tony Lee

Posted on 01/18/2013 9:39:44 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

After California residents voted to increase taxes via Proposition 30, state revenues have decreased, and residents and businesses are leaving to avoid burdensome taxes and regulations.

However, as Forbes notes, “leaving” California “is not always easy”; the state considers anyone in the state for anything other than a temporary or transitory purpose as a resident.

The burden is on the taxpayer to show they are not a Californian. The state presumes anyone who has been in California for at least nine months is a resident.

It “usually takes 18 months” for someone to no longer be presumed a resident, which can make it difficult for people who flee the state to convince the state government they are no longer California residents...

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

From what I understand, professional athletes are taxed by the states that they play games in on a per game basis.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/apr/12/sports/sp-jock-tax12

I have been wondering when California is going to start to ask me to pay taxes on the money I earn when I am physically there working at my customer’s facilities - 3 weeks a year; or maybe even on the money I earn doing work at home for California companies - about %30 percent of my income.

I would have to increase my rates.


61 posted on 01/19/2013 5:08:36 AM PST by The Free Engineer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A number of years back, my (now) wife left California and moved to Michigan to marry me. She worked less than two months in California. When it came time to fill out income tax forms, I had to file a California joint return, as she had income reported in California, and we were married during the tax year. Both states required that whatever type of forms I filed in one state, I had to file the same in the other.

California required me to pay California taxes on ALL of my income, even though I never worked a day in California. They did, however allow me to subtract my Michigan taxes, which were much lower than the California taxes, so I only had to pay the difference. I tried a number of ways to fill out the forms, and all required this payment.

I finally fixed the problem by filing an individual return for her in California, and had them send the refund to Michigan, assuming that California would have no way of knowing she was married in Michigan. I then filed a joint return in Michigan, listing no income for her, assuming that Michigan would have no way of finding out she had income in California. Thank goodness the statute of limitations is now over so I won't get arrested for acknowledging this.

62 posted on 01/19/2013 5:21:42 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Interesting.

We have never before had feudalism in this country.

Government = Lord of the Manor. Citizens = serfs


63 posted on 01/19/2013 5:34:06 AM PST by paterfamilias
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To: exDemMom
I’m military, so I don’t pay taxes in CA. I wonder when they’ll discover that thousands of CA military don’t pay taxes?

They already tried that a few decades ago. California also tried to dock a percentage out of military retirees checks depending how long they were stationed in the State.

Congress passed a law denying this practice.

64 posted on 01/19/2013 5:58:24 AM PST by OldMissileer
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To: Pontiac
I think it is ten years since Rush Limbaugh left NY moving his business and residence to Florida, yet they still harass him every year for taxes; forcing him to prove that he did not do business in NY.

IIRC they want him to account for every day he spends in New York and taxes him accordingly.
This week I heard him mention having to save a receipt for that purpose. Apparently to prove where he was on that day.

65 posted on 01/19/2013 6:38:10 AM PST by Vinnie (A)
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To: exDemMom
I’m military, so I don’t pay taxes in CA. I wonder when they’ll discover that thousands of CA military don’t pay taxes? Of course, if they were to do that, then I would reconsider maintaining CA as my home state.

Did they change the rules? When I was in the military, we tried to avoid being stationed in California because, if you eventually retired from the military, California considered whatever percentage of your retirement was earned while statined in California to be txable, no matter where you resided. IOW, spend 4 years in California and pay them income tax on 25% of your retirement forever, even if you settle in Florida.

66 posted on 01/19/2013 6:45:32 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: Aria

Interested to know why you would like to move back there when English is the second language in CA these days...?


67 posted on 01/19/2013 6:52:19 AM PST by matginzac
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To: usconservative; All

After reading this thread I beginning to realize Jackie Chan’s statement concerning corruption in America isn’t far off.


68 posted on 01/19/2013 6:56:15 AM PST by Vinnie (A)
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To: Windflier

My wife had an SLP license in California (but never a CA resident) and let it expire. Several years later she wanted to re-activate it and they forced her to pay the yearly fees for the intervening years she did not have her license active.

Then, after she paid the back fees and re-activated her license, she was told to pay an additional $1,000 to another board she had never heard of. She had to pay so she wouldn’t lose her California clients. They basically robbed her of about $1800.


69 posted on 01/19/2013 7:13:40 AM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Mobilemitter
,,,you can check out any time you want But you can never leave....

Funny. I just shared this Breitbart link on FB and that was the exact comment I used. I don't know if any of my Friends will get the reference.

70 posted on 01/19/2013 7:15:12 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You can check out, but you can NEVER leave?


71 posted on 01/19/2013 7:16:59 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Which border? The U.S. - Mexico border? Can youimagine the outrage from Los Mexicanos?


72 posted on 01/19/2013 7:18:31 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: KarlInOhio

Does a Film Mirror America’s Future? A Review of Barbara

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/01/does_a_film_mirror_americas_future_a_review_of_barbara.html


73 posted on 01/19/2013 7:20:21 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

< My wife had an SLP license in California (but never a CA resident) and let it expire. Several years later she wanted to re-activate it and they forced her to pay the yearly fees for the intervening years she did not have her license active.

Then, after she paid the back fees and re-activated her license, she was told to pay an additional $1,000 to another board she had never heard of. She had to pay so she wouldn’t lose her California clients. They basically robbed her of about $1800.>

Sounds like somebody was stuffing their pockets. That’s the government we have today. They always have to get their cut and are never satisfied. I would dare to say we may have one of the most corrupt governments off all time, particularly after O took the reins and guaranteed transparency...


74 posted on 01/19/2013 7:27:47 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Hotlanta Mike
You can check out, but you can NEVER leave?

Yep, good ol' Hotel California.

75 posted on 01/19/2013 7:44:49 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: matginzac

I’ve always enjoyed foreign travel to places with warm weather and beautiful scenery. :-)

Besides, I’d make sure I’d congregate with the English speaking ex-pats.

But, alas, it won’t happen. So Florida is a possibility.


76 posted on 01/19/2013 8:05:20 AM PST by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: ApplegateRanch
See my #47 below about my “California” USAF Texas brother & the Franchise Tax Board.

Your brother would have retired years before I ever enlisted, and decades before I was commissioned.

I still vote and am licensed in CA, but I do not pay taxes there or even file a return. I do not file a return in the state where I am stationed, either. This may be part of the "Soldiers and Sailors Relief Act", a federal law meant to protect service members from being unduly taxed.

77 posted on 01/19/2013 8:29:37 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist
My wife had an SLP license in California (but never a CA resident) and let it expire. Several years later she wanted to re-activate it and they forced her to pay the yearly fees for the intervening years she did not have her license active.

Bloody hell. California's government is just criminal (i.e., Democrat). I defy any bureaucrat or politician to give your wife a rational explanation for charging her back fees for the time her license was lapsed, and she wasn't doing business in the state.

What they did to her was purely punitive, and completely immoral. If it's legal, then the law supporting the practice is immoral, and should be struck down by the courts.

78 posted on 01/19/2013 8:32:38 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: trebb
Did they change the rules? When I was in the military, we tried to avoid being stationed in California because, if you eventually retired from the military, California considered whatever percentage of your retirement was earned while statined in California to be txable, no matter where you resided. IOW, spend 4 years in California and pay them income tax on 25% of your retirement forever, even if you settle in Florida.

I don't know how long ago you were in the military, but it is quite possible that the rules have changed since then. The Soldiers and Sailors Relief Act is supposed to prevent abuse of service members who are posted in various states.

My home state is CA. I have actually only been stationed in CA for a year, and that was back in the 1980s when I was enlisted Navy. Now I am commissioned Army, and have only been back for a couple of visits. I do not pay tax while I am outside of the state, but I fully expect to pay state tax on my retirement pay... if I decide to go back to CA at that time. My husband only pays tax on his retirement pay to his state of residence (currently MD). Who knows, maybe sane people will have taken the state back by then.

79 posted on 01/19/2013 8:39:17 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Looks like a lane change project is coming to the ag inspection stops.


80 posted on 01/19/2013 8:45:17 AM PST by sasquatch
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