Posted on 01/31/2013 4:08:34 PM PST by PJ-Comix
“But we have to pass the [health care] bill so that you can find out what’s in it....”
So promised Nancy Pelousi and now that the KOmmies have had a chance to finally see what is in ObamaCare, they are in a state of shock since they have FINALLY discovered that ObamaCare STINKS bigtime as you can see in this THREAD, "Obama and Dems may have jost lost their most stalwart supporter with this Obamacare ruling." Gee! And you are only just NOW finding out how horrible ObamaCare is? Don't worry, I'm sure you can find a way to blame the Republicans for foisting ObamaCare upon you. So let us now watch the KOmmies moan and groan about the ObamaCare they used to ardently desire in Bolshevik Red, while the commentary of your humble correspondent, wondering if ObamaCare will cover Pelousi's botox treatments, in in the [barackets]:
Obama and Dems may have jost lost their most stalwart supporter with this Obamacare ruling
[Too bad the fine print was at the bottom of page 1724 of the 2000+ page ObamaCare bill.]
I was a stalwart all through the past four years plus, never wavering when others jumped on and off the bandwagon. But this NYT article just crushed me like a grape:
[A crushed grape and now you "wine" about ObamaCare.]
The Obama administration adopted a strict definition of affordable health insurance on Wednesday that will deny federal financial assistance to millions of Americans with modest incomes who cannot afford family coverage offered by employers.
In deciding whether an employer’s health plan is affordable, the Internal Revenue Service said it would look at the cost of coverage only for an individual employee, not for a family. Family coverage might be prohibitively expensive, but federal subsidies would not be available to help buy insurance for children in the family.
The policy decision came in a final regulation interpreting ambiguous language in the 2010 health care law.
[SURPRISE!!! There is no "affordable" in the Affordable Care Act.]
I had been banking on being able to finally get health care starting January 1, 2014. Three days over the past few years have been especially meaningful (after, of course, Election Night '08 and the January 2009 inauguration): the day the PPACA law passed, the day the SCOTUS mostly upheld it, and this past Election Day (which seemed to seal its prospects against ever being repealed, though at the moment I'm less sure of that).
[You forgot to include the meaningful day when you suffered ObamaCare sticker shock.]
My wife works as a primary school special ed teacher. Her job provides decent insurance for her with no premium. To add me and our kids to the policy, though, would cost $577 a month out of a paycheck that right now is only $2400 a month, take home, and does not stretch super far as it is. This is just plain unaffordable for us. Yet the news is, we are shit out of luck.
[Welcome to the UNAFFORDABLE Care Act.]
Almost insulting are the paltry breadcrumbs found in the "silver lining":
Under the law, people who go without insurance will generally be subject to tax penalties. In a separate proposed regulation issued on Wednesday, the Internal Revenue Service said that the uninsured children and spouse of an employee would be exempt from the penalties if the cost of coverage for the entire family under an employer’s plan was more than 8 percent of household income.
So rather than helping me get my family covered, you just won't punish us because we can't afford it? Thank you Obama.
[Yup! You sure are sh*t out of luck.]
Democrats had better be careful. It looks like the Pubs might be right on what a clusterf*ck this will be.
[Remember, NOT ONE "Pub" voted for ObamaCare.]
Indeed. I am beyond livid here...despairing, really. How can this be happening?!?
[It is happening because like your fellow socialists, you are a naive IDIOT KOmmie SlackerInc. And now to the other disillusioned KOmmies...]
That ruling just plain sucks and the 'silver lining' ain't that silvery either.
[The ruling sucks? How about the ENTIRE ObamaCare law?]
My wife has not been too crazy about Obamacare and I have defended it to the death. I hope this thing is not going down the toilet like the Republicans predicted.
[It IS going down the toilet just like the Republicans predicted.]
The way its going it will end up as zero change other than mandating health insurance - not only did we not get Single/payer public option but those of us that don't want to hand over chunks of cash to the health insurance will be penalized. The sad thing is that this was all very predictable.
[The sad thing is that the DEMOCRATS passed ObamaCare without even reading it.]
But if you can't afford insurance you still end up paying the fine, subsidizing someone else's insurance while getting none of your own. How is that even remotely fair or right? It makes things actually WORSE for a lot of people.
[“But we have to pass the [health care] bill so that you can find out what’s in it....”]
Death panels!
[And a death panel has ruled that you are already brain dead.]
Where is the "Affordable" in the Affordable Care Act?
[Gone With the Wind.]
F*CK WHOEVER TOOK THIS DECISION AND I HOPE THEY GET SOME DAMN VIRUS UP THEIR ASS THAT MAKES THEM PUKE AND POOP NON STOP FOR A WEEK
[Oh, and you have to pay big bucks for mental health coverage under ObamaCare.]
Governments both federal and state have a never ending procurement process that makes any project time line a LONG one. Any state that says it's going to set up an exchange is going to struggle with it for that reason and because of funding. There is a 95% probability that the exchanges will incur cost over runs. The big (and small) consulting firms are going to FEAST off of this debacle, with mediocre outcomes at best. And everyone, EVERYONE, including the liberals who most wanted this, are going to HATE it.
And then, using the Jedi mind tricks they always use on themselves, they'll figure out a way to blame the Republicans and that will be the MSM meme for the next 40 years. But you knew that last part already.
“It makes things actually WORSE for a lot of people.”
Top down centralized control always does! Dictators must force all individuals to bend their will to the wishes of the tyrant, that is the only way to “create” the utopia that they desire. Individuals cease to exist!
Therefore, things getting worse for everyone is always the result. History proves it, which is why it is so easy to predict!
Suck on it KOmmies! You wanted it, now you got it! Idiots.
“It will not “collapse,” as some here are speculating. It will simply become more and more hideous in an ever-spiraling mess; just like the tax code, but with your life and not just your money at stake.”
I agree with you. The Utopian mantra always has been, “we need more time, it takes time to get it right, we need more control to MAKE it work, blah, blah, blah.”
Then the sheeple follow blindly....
There should have been a lot of dims lose their seats after that vote. Of course, with voters that always reelect the Queen Sheila, Maxine Waters, Hank Johnson, etc., the house dims are well cemented into their jobs benefits forever.
They didn’t want it, they wanted single payer healthcare or nationalized insurance. They will get that within 2 years.
Pray for America
You should read this.
It’s all going to hit the fan BIGTIME next year when taxpayers are going to see the HUGE amount they have to pay for ObamaCare when filing their tax returns. Or will it be later this year when the HUGE deductions are taken out of their paychecks?
I don’t think the federal guvmnt cares about the exchanges. All they care about is the IRS Enforcers collecting the TAX from those who cannot afford (or refuse to pay) insurance premiums.
I believe this was the intent all along.
LOL — time warp as your later repeat post came in first…
Later
Too right. They haven't found a way to blame Bush yet, that's all. But they're working on it.
I'm not even joking, much. Once the initial pain is gone the false memory will set in. "Yeah, we had to get a second mortgage to afford a bedpan for Aunt Marge, but at least we didn't have to sell the children for medical experiments like we did under Bush." These folks don't change.
Oh, I know it’s not “free”. You will get a bill. It’s just that you can’t be denied care.
Heck, the Emergency rooms are used by the folks on “free” government insurance. In Tennessee they found people taking cabs to go to the hospital to get Tylenol for a headache.
The state legislature tried to tighten the rules but some left wing judge stepped in. I wonder if all the libs have relatives in the system! lol
That might be pretty tough. Since the recall 3 years ago, you mostly see Tylenol for cold medicine and heat cream but not much else. BTW, I picked up the last batch of Tylenol before the recall with coupons.
Reminds me of John Conyers on this very subject, ridiculing the very idea of reading the bill before voting on it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t32ckkdlcao&noredirect=1
People like that ruin it for people who truly need care.
I have a friend who lost his job and with it his insurance, his unemployment was running out and he had to go to the ER. He was denied any financial assistance.
I dropped my health insurance in December. I just can't afford it anymore. If something happens I'm screwed.
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