While a cowardly media is refusing to report it, "Knockout" is entertaining thugs on our streets

Coach is Right ^ | 2/22/13 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

[Oldpuppymax]

Here’s some good news: Demetrius Murphy, one of the original members of a gang of Black teenagers who roam the streets of St. Louis attacking people as they “play” the Knockout Game, is dead. He was shot and killed recently while preparing to break into the wrong home and met someone who was armed and not afraid to defend himself. It happened that the home owner is White and Murphy was Black. In ordinary times this shouldn’t mean anything, but in this case it does. Murphy instigated this confrontation because he preferred White victims – well actually any victims but Black victims. He specialized in slugging those of other races who...

[Road Glide]

Arrivederci, Demetrius!

Bon voyage!

[elcid1970]

Last words of Demetrius Murphy: “P***y, you ain’t got the balls!”

Or instead was it, “I ain’t afraid of your m****f**** gun!”

[RansomOttawa]

Demetrius Murphy, one of the original members of a gang of Black teenagers who roam the streets of St. Louis attacking people as they “play” the Knockout Game, is dead.

In the long run, the house always wins. Good riddance.

[Vigilanteman]

Savages like this were the reason that my Native American ancestors took scalps and displayed them on effigy poles outside the village. This custom originated long before the white man arrived on these shores. A would be punk and his gang seeing an effigy pole or three full of scalps was inclined to move on if he valued his life. Hope we don’t have to revert to that custom in the U.S.A., but it is beginning to look like we might.

[warchild9]

Actually, scalping was originally a technique used by the Spanish to prove they’d killed Indians in order to claim bounties.

Learn history. The truth is out there.

[cyn]

that's also what coach linked at his article.

Link from the St. Louis paper

Photo of a previous victim and story; contains this info:

The incident appears similar to other unprovoked attacks in St. Louis and across the country frequently spearheaded by teens. In a similar attack in April near Grand Boulevard and Chippewa Street, Hoang Nguyen, 72, and his wife, Yen, were walking from a Vietnamese market near their home when two males and two females approached, police said. Nguyen was punched in the head and kicked in the abdomen. He died at a hospital. His wife suffered an eye socket fracture after she was punched in the face.

[Sgt_Schultze]

At one time, this type of citizen lived in large buildings within the borders of large cities. It made taking care of them easy and schools and shopping were within walking distance. But citizens outside the big cities didn't have the pleasure of interacting with the charges, so their numbers preyed on each other - the violence was concentrated.

So it was established that the large structures would be destroyed and vouchers would be provided, and the souls would be scattered into otherwise stable neighborhoods - to introduce normal Americans to feral youth. Now normal Americans could see what their taxes were paying to support and they could enjoy the excitement they brought to the neighborhood. So now independent communities needed more government support to keep the predators in check.

And government grew.

[Vigilanteman]

Depends on the tribe you are talking about. The Abenaki (southern Canada/northern New England) never had known contact with the Spanish and practiced scalping. Ditto for a lot of the northern plains tribes, though some may have had contact with the Spanish. The Comanche, for instance, was originally a northern plains tribe who moved south into warmer territory and had plenty of contact with the Spanish and their successors, Mexicans, Texans, Americans, etc.

No evidence the Spanish ever paid the Comanche to collect scalps, but plenty of evidence the Comanche scalped not only the Spanish (and their successors), but also competing tribes such as the Aztec, Ute, Tonkawa, Pawnee, etc.

Anyone who makes a blanket statement on all Native American tribes is as off-base as the doofus which stated "All Indians walk single file, at least the one I saw did."

[warchild9]

I’ll confess to a lack of knowledge about the Abenaki. I’ll look into it. (And I will.)

As for the rest of them, scalping was an artifact of the Spanish. I have it on the highest authority. (That is, primary sources. Checking primary sources is what historians do.)

[angcat]

Too bad some fatal disease can’t that these people out.

[warchild9]

Sorry this is late.

A friend of mine who teaches early American history (I’m a modern European history—WWII—specialist) tells me that the Algonquian peoples—and I needed to spell it correctly—learned scalping from the French porteurs, who earlier used the practice in the Caribbean to claim bounties on Indians killed.

Who taught it to them, he doesn’t know. I certainly don’t.

However, as far as he knows, scalping did not originate with any North American Indian tribes.

He’s got the Phd in the subject, and has spent his life studying same. I have not. Just FYI.

[Vigilanteman]

Interesting. It is likely that the Abenaki had contact with the French since they ventured north into what is now Quebec. They were certainly using the practice extensively by the time of the French and Indian War but also to a lesser extent before.

One thing we keep finding out for sure as the science of anthropology advances is that there was a lot more contact between tribes than previously believed. So this may have included scalping as well.

Your friend's theory sounds logical and may, in fact, be correct. However, there were some pretty unwholesome practices long before they met the white man, so I still maintain a healthy skepticism.

Just a few examples:

1. The Anasazi, once thought to be one of the most peaceful tribes and mainly vegetarian, were found to have practiced cannibalism by analysis of fossilized fecal mater.
   
2. The Aztecs, whose brutality remains legendary even until this day, despite their ability for architectural genius.
   
3. The Pawnee, one of the most civilized of plains tribes (by white man's standards) who were agricultural during the growing season and hunted buffalo after the harvest, also practiced human sacrifice until the 1830s. Some say they may have gotten this from the Aztecs as many subordinate tribes escaped from that evil empire and came north. But this is purely speculative. Most historians believe it was developed independently. Not that most are necessarily correct. There are plenty of historical examples where the majority of experts turn out to be wrong and the guy with the odd-ball opinion correct.

Thus, it may be with scalping, even though your friend has a good "chain of custody" theory with the French porteurs. As you noted in your previous post, other historians believe it originated with the Spanish. I basically say "who knows?" because our native peoples were quite capable of developing barbaric practices on their own as illustrated by the previous examples.