Posted on 03/23/2013 8:04:39 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
In Update 22, “The Incredible Exploding Dee Dee,” I suggested that when Dee Dee was deposed by George Zimmerman’s attorney, Mark O’Mara, the information she provided had the potential to be even more harmful to the prosecution and to the members of the Scheme Team. The first part of the deposition was completed on Wednesday, March 20, and additional time was reportedly scheduled for Friday, March 22.
This is, in itself, unusual. A full day is usually more than enough for such matters. That another day is required suggests strongly that far more relevant evidence is being unearthed.
It is likely this information will be destructive not only to the prosecutor’s all but nonexistent case, but to the prosecutors, the Scheme Team–particularly Benjamin Crump–and others involved with them.
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In a February 22, 2013 hearing, O’Mara petitioned the court to order a deposition of Crump. O’Mara sought to discover, among other information, why there were multiple interruptions in the audiotaped interview Crump conducted of Dee Dee on March 19, 2012. That interview, and Crump’s subsequent, hyperbolic statements regarding its content, were instrumental in securing Zimmerman’s eventual arrest.
Crump resisted that deposition, filing a sworn affidavit with the court in which he claimed that any interruptions were entirely innocent and no matters of substance were discussed while the recorder was off.
Apparently partially based on a non-skeptical reading of Crump’s deposition, on March 4, Judge Debra Nelson denied O’Mara’s motion to depose Crump, primarily citing the work product privilege (opposing attorneys are generally not required to submit to depositions, but this privilege is not absolute).
And this is where matters have suddenly become very, very interesting, and may, once again, blow up in the prosecution’s face just as Vesuvius blew up on Pompeii and Herculaneum in 79 AD. And once again, Dee Dee–the gift to the defense that just keeps on giving–is involved.
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Now it seems clear that Mr. Crump has been caught in an obvious lie, a lie under oath–perjury. It is possible that this is only the first. It is further possible that truthful and complete testimony by Mr. Crump would unearth additional lies and the machinations of a racial grievance machine intent not only on convicting George and Shelly Zimmerman regardless of the lack of evidence against them, but on enriching the Scheme Team and its associates. I’ve little doubt that various worthies at the Department of Justice are also deeply involved in this case (the FBI doesn’t conduct investigations just for giggles).
We have only begun to scratch the surface of that particular rock. It will be interesting indeed to see what sort of creatures run for cover when and if it is overturned.
Should Judge Nelson order that Crump be deposed, one can expect two things: he will obfuscate and do his best to avoid answering direct questions. He left himself an out by claiming he remembers nothing, but that’s not likely to be convincing when he is confronted by his own voice coaching Dee Dee. One can, however, expect him to take the 5th.
Oh yes: the more trouble Mr. Crump finds himself in, the more fervently the race card will be played.
As I noted in Update 22, if Dee Dee took the 5th, the consequences for her and for the prosecution would be most unpleasant. It seems she has, instead, opted for disclosure, and if this assumption is accurate, it is Mr. Crump, the Scheme Team, and the prosecution, that have been caught, yet again, in another Dee Dee explosion.
The most delicious irony is: they lit the fuse, and may soon–figuratively–resemble the unfortunate former residents of Pompeii and Herculaneum.
The Prosecutors next move should be to drop all charges. Crump’s next move should be seeing how he looks in bright orange jumpsuits.
Does anybody believe that will happen? The fix is in.
The Prosecutors next move should be to drop all charges. Crump’s next move should be seeing how he looks in bright orange jumpsuits.
If that was a motion, I second it.
We're looking at a lynching straight out of the old Soviet system. I predict we'll see more and more legalized lynchings in post-constitutional America, where the color of one's skin trumps the content of one's character.
The prosecution is like welfare-a payoff so that one doesn’t riot. Doesn’t always work.
I'm sure that Crump is telling Bernie and Corey through nefarious sources that they better pull all their strings to keep him from being deposed otherwise he be forced to snitch on them in his deposition.
Why?
Because the Holder Justice Department is involved. There is no truth connected to that Rogue agency and it’s subsidiaries.
If there's any hint the judge might want to persue this (snort), it ill just be an excuse for Crump to step down and causing the case to be delayed so a new prosecution team can come aboard. Delay, delay, delay because they know they don't have a case.
And if Crump is ordered to talk under oath, I can't see how answers such as "I don't remember" or pleading the 5th can get any important information out of him......
I hope you're right but I just don't trust the legal system to do what's right anymore.
That's why it will be dismissed...Obama via Holder will make the call to Crump. This is as dirty as it gets.
As I understand the case that I haven’t followed THAT closely, Crump represents Trayvon’s parent, but he isn’t part of the official prosecutors team, so his stepping down wouldn’t affect the scheduled trial.
I think Crump’s role was to stir up the action so once there was a guilty verdict, he and his firm could sue everyone in sight civilly and collect significant $$$ judgments.
The actual prosecutor is a total disgrace. I did see her presser to announce the charges and she quoted exactly Team Crump’s catchy little mantra “Justice for Trayvon,” which is NOT a prosecutor’s job or role.
Would like someone who has followed to clarify. Thanks.
I don't think Crump is part of the prosecution team but rather an attorney Martin's family has hired in preparation to file a wrongful death suit against Zimmerman.
Somebody here posted a thread last year outlining Florida's law regarding Stand Your Ground law and not being able to be sued if you are not convicted of anything......Or maybe it was that if no charges were brought against you then you couldn't be sued.
That's why Martin's family got the Justice Brothers involved, so they could stir up the hornets nest and intimidate the prosecutor's office into bringing charges against Zimmerman.
agreed
There are several other interesting bits of information provided by Mr. O’Mara in his arguments:
“The defense believes that Mr. Crump is aware of how the State Attorney’s Office came to know about Witness 8. This information cannot be gained from any other source, as the State has refused to provide that information to the defense. This is relevant because it is important for the defense to understand the circumstances surrounding how this very important witness came to be know by the authorities prosecuting Mr. Zimmerman.”
Again, a masterpiece of understatement. And this:
“only Mr. Crump knows why information on Witness 8 was not given to the Sanford Police Department or the Florida Department of Law Enforcement…even though multiple requests were made by FDLE.”
It is my (layman's) understanding that under Florida law an arrest is sufficient to enable a civil action. So getting the arrest of Zimmerman was Crump's goal, thereby enabling a future civil suit. The reason for all the talk about the homeowner's association, etc. is to seek deep pockets. Zimmerman himself is unlikely to have enough assets to be worth suing.
I think the defense was caught off guard by her reasoning last time, but this time they left her no wriggle room.
She argued last time that Crump was opposing counsel and that his affidavit was sufficient and that he knew nothing relevant to the case and that if they needed anything get it from Witness 8 deposition.
All those excuses have been taken away from the judge now.
In the Motion defense pointed out that they just deposed Witness 8 and she doesn’t know and now there are other questions from that deposition that have arisen, that they are relevant, that they indicate that Crump lied in his affidavit to the court [a big big no no with any judge — normally], that he is not opposing counsel in that there is no pending litigation between the Martins and Zimmermannn, and even if he were oc, being that he is the only person who has the answer, the court should order his deposition.
The fact that the prosecution who was there at the Witness 8 deposition has not responded to the Motion to Depose tells you that they are having to reach deep for a reason to oppose the Motion.
Oh, I am SURE Crump intends/intended to sue the HOA, the Sanford PD and every other entity he possibly could. At 29, how much could Zimmerman possibly be worth? Assuming he’s cleared, I can see $ in his future from a book and/or movie and/or speaking engagements. Maybe not a movie; that doesn’t fit the Hollywood agenda.
But given that there is no pending litigation between a Crump client and Zimmerman, Crump cannnot claim to be opposing counsel.
The claim that he might or might not file such a lawsuit sometime in the future and use that as the reason that he is opposing counsel is so ludicrous that no judge in her right mind would fall for it.
So this judge probably will.
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