Skip to comments.Revealed: Barack Hussein Obama (Sr.)-British Passport-April 29,1959
Posted on 04/10/2013 4:16:43 PM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
Its fascinating and incredible just to look at Barack Obama Sr.s old British (Colony and Protectorate of Kenya) Passport.
I have a bunch to say but, for the time being, wont bore you with an exhaustive report. I will, however, offer the following brief introduction for your review:
- DOB: 18.06.1934 or June 18, 1934. 5 years later he says June 18, 1936.
- Eyes: Brown Black. 5 years later he says black brown eyes.
- Height: 5′ 10″. 5 years later he says 5′ 11.
- Occupation: Clerk. Did you know that he was a clerk for the Kenya Railways? I did not know until recently.
- Issued in Nairobi on April 29, 1959. Note: Nairobi was located in the Kenya Colony, not to be confused with the Kenya Protectorate.
(Excerpt) Read more at wasobamaborninkenya.com ...
Excuse me. I meant to say “Hat tip to Freeper Brain Hicks for finding the link to the revealing of Obama Sr.’s British Passport.”
(Obama Jr.s) Birth certificate conflicts with father’s real birthday?
Newly released immigration documents indicate Obama Sr. was 2 years older
What is REALLY needed is DNA from Odumbo Senior and from “Frank Davis” or “Frank Marshall”, I think his name was. (The guy was supposed to have been Odumbo “Communist Mentor”). I would REALLY like to see those two compared.
Ray...........I didn’t write that, nor am I making it a issue. Lucas Smith made that observation. I just posted excerpts from what he stated here.
His father was not an American citizen. Making him a dual citizen at birth.
His adopted father was not an American citizen. His adopted country does not recognize dual citizenships. He is an adopted Indonesian.
He never applied for American citizenship upon returning to Hawaii. Did he?
Going thrice.... No!
He is an Illegal Alien from Indonesia, is his last PROVEABLE citizenship status. Unless Jug ears can cough up the citizenship application papers he is technically and legally still a citizen of Indonesia.
That looks very authentic to me. I know he was born in Kenya. I wonder how many years it will be before the truth comes out.
Right. My misunderstanding.
Pretty much explains why he wants illegals to get a free slide into our country.
This won’t go nowhere, I regret to say. Just wait till 2017, and Odumb@$$ will not vacate the WH as he will state he is not a legal citizen and his does not have to give up the pResidency. he will claim he is dictator for life, the Constitution Congress and Supreme Court are null and Void. The Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force and Coast Guard are void, the North koreans, Chinese and Russians will be right there by his side and all the DHS ammunition will be utilized to destroy Americans. America will be repopulated with complacent socialists and America will cease to exist.
DNA would sure do it.
Question about that baby footprint:
How much do peoples footprints change?
“How much do peoples footprints change?”
The tend to get bigger over time. See, that’s a little bitty baby foot. Now Obama’s walking on some big dogs, much, much larger than that little baby foot.
I meant the patterns, the creases, not size.
Do the patterns have the same appearance, only larger?
If you look at the print in post #5, there is an “x” pattern, from under the ball of the large toe up, and the other from the outer edge of the foot to between the big and second toe.
Looks like a paw print
No, that won’t happen. Relax.
I was just joshing you, you left yourself wife open on that one! Footprints are like fingerprints, the patterns do not change.
Unless of course Lil’ O has corns, callouses, or some flakey foot.
Like a hoof... a cloven hoof.
Anyone know why the father’s DOB lists just a year? The passport from two years earlier has the month, day, and year. The mother’s DOB is complete.
BHO is a U.S. citizen at birth. As a child you can’t have your U.S. citizenship taken away from you by an act if your parents or the citizenship laws of another country. He may have acquired Indonesian citizenship (and a passport to boot). But in doing so, he didn’t lose his U.S. nationality.
Why don’t you buy Pres. Obama a genome map from https://www.23andme.com/
It would be a great way to get Americans to know their genetic code, health issues and ancestry.
The Sheriff and his investigative team, plus a forensic lab, have evidence the Hawaii COLB is a FORGERY.
Said lab is HIGHLY qualified.
There is NO authentic proof of Obama being born in Hawaii.
SEC. 401. A person who is a national of the United States, whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by:
“(a) Obtaining naturalization in a foreign state, either upon his own application or through the naturalization of a parent having legal custody of such person: . .
I’m not a forensic document expert, but in addition to the unclear chain of custody, another aspect of this Kenyan BC that I question is the date format. It uses the US standard month/day/year style, but I would have expected a European day/month/year format (with the numbers possibly separated by periods rather than slashes) to be used.
It also misspells the name of the father. Sr. used two ‘r’s: Barrack.
I don’t know but here is a more clearer image of the alleged Obama footprint I found on Scribd.
A national is different than a citizen, lemme look it up in that INA doc....
Obliged friend, Procyon
here are the links to the INA docs (many thanks 4zoltan!)
To: Seizethecarp; Rides3
Rides3 is actually read the 1952 Immigration and Nationality Act. At the time it was written both Alaska (Section 304) and Hawaii (Section 305) were territories.
The 1965 amendments to the 1952 act didnt make any changes to the language of those sections.
64 posted on Tue Apr 09 2013 22:30:54 GMT-0500 (CDT) by 4Zoltan [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 63 | View Replies | Report Abuse]
To: 4Zoltan; Rides3
Thanks for the link!
Where could we find the 1965 amendments?
65 posted on Tue Apr 09 2013 23:12:12 GMT-0500 (CDT) by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies | Report Abuse]
66 posted on Tue Apr 09 2013 23:32:04 GMT-0500 (CDT) by 4Zoltan [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies | Report Abuse]
Again let me express my thanks to you for this link!
67 posted on Tue Apr 09 2013 23:46:12 GMT-0500 (CDT) by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)) [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 66 | View Replies | Report Abuse]
Not according to his gravestone.
There is also an issue with the name of the Chief Administrator. His signature and stamp say Helton Maganga. but his linkedin page spells it Heltan with an “a”.
I would assume he would spell his name correctly. But a forger might misspell it if he was basing it a newspaper article.
A news reporter might misspell the doctors name. This newspaper article came shortly before the “Kenya Birth Certificate” went up for sell on E-bay.
Savorgnan v. United States, 338 US 491 - Supreme Court 1950
So you would elect Adolph's children, just not Adolph?
Child by proxy rule is what our enlightened wise men of old were trying to prevent. Just because you're OK with it doesn't mean the rest of US are!
MR. JUSTICE BURTON delivered the opinion of the Court.
The question is whether, under the special circumstances of this case, a native-born American citizen who became an Italian citizen in 1940, and lived in Italy with her Italian husband from 1941 to 1945, nevertheless retained her American citizenship.
For the reasons hereinafter stated, we hold that she did not.
The controlling statutes are § 2 of the Citizenship Act of 1907, and §§ 401, 493*493 403 and 104 of its successor, the Nationality Act of 1940.
(2) SEC. 401. A person who is a national of the United States, whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by:
(a) Obtaining naturalization in a foreign state, either upon his own application or through the naturalization of a parent having legal custody of such person: . .
Savorgnan v. United States, 338 US 491 - Supreme Court 1950
“Im not a forensic document expert, but in addition to the unclear chain of custody, another aspect of this Kenyan BC that I question is the date format.”
See my comment from 2012:
To: woofie; LucyT; WhizCodger; Red Steel; Fractal Trader
something else ....why call people Obots if they dont buy Smith and his magic Kenyan paper?
I called an Obot the person who corrupted the Wiki date format page to remove proof that Kenya used two date formats, one of which matched the CPGH BC. He/she is an Obama operative robot, i.e. Obot, IMO.
I have no complaint about folks who disagree with me, other than concern trolls who lurk on eligibility threads and want to help others see that the troll knows the truth and others don’t.
I remain agnostic regarding the CPGH BC absent forensic examination or proof of forgery which I don’t see, yet.
Note that several months ago LDS claimed that he had been offered a much higher resolution scan of a CPGH BC and he was in some kind of negotiations to obtain it, IIRC.
He posted a partial scan that included part of the footprint and parts of several signatures that were identical to the LDS scan...but where, in fact, at much higher resolution. The little folds and grooves of the footprint were much clearer and more suitable for ID, should that be possible.
I wasn’t following site very closely and I have heard no word that LDS obtained the better scan or that the full scan was ever put up anywhere, but that might just be the scan the triggered this thread...before it disappeared!
Here’s another guess: The scan came from Odinga’s top aide and is now in the possession of Jerome Corsi...and maybe Arpaio’s Posse, now that you mention it. Arpaio has been extremely careful not to reveal anything too soon. Arpaio would know that an alleged CPGH BC scan or actual embossed certificate can ONLY be authenticated by the corrupt Kenyan government in order to be entered into evidence in federal court and Obama can outbid anybody to bribe the Kenyans to hide or reveal it. Leaking a high quality scan onto the web briefly could be a warning to Barry’s team of things to come.
103 posted on Monday, March 12, 2012 8:49:15 PM by Seizethecarp
Yes quite possibly. After Senior's US immigration files were released. I analyzed the docs, and wrote a summary:
If you read it, you'll see that Senior repeatedly signed documents showing two different years for his birth. One of these years differs from Junior's birth certificate. Look for the yellow-highlighed boxes in the right column of the above summary.
Senior was not only a Marxist, he was a knowing signatory to false information filed with the federal government.
According to your summary, he sure was a fraudster. Incredible. This is what stood out for me in the thread. You wrote
“The wife in the Phillipines from whom he is separated is a U.S.C.”
I believe it was Stanley Ann Dunham, but I cannot be absolutely sure.
“It should be noted that the website who has obtained the British Passport belongs to Lucas Smith”
First, it’s just a blog.
Second, Smith was zotted for being a scammer and a kook:
Thanks for connecting us to the Kenya BC thread from last year. It’s quite possible that I read it then, but sadly didn’t remember it!
Interesting hypothesis also....
Why are the pictures of the passport in black and white (actually more sepia colored)? Where they taken in the 1960s?
“Thanks for connecting us to the Kenya BC thread from last year. Its quite possible that I read it then, but sadly didnt remember it!”
Don’t feel bad. I didn’t remember writing anything in that comment until I pulled it up in a search!
Right after Smith revealed the CPGH BC I went onto Wiki searching for international date formats by country and found that Kenya used both formats with either the month or day going first and I posted the Wiki link on Smith’s Youtube.
An aggressive Obot named Mystlyplx (sp) immediately edited Wiki to REMOVE Kenya as one of two or three countries in the world that accept both date formats...and a battle between Wiki editors ensued.
Unfortunately for the Obots there was a color-coded map of countries that used the dual formats and they couldn’t edit that and has Kenya remained coded for dual date format use for years.
Here is the current link:
As of today, Kenya is shown as dual use (green) on the map and in the Kenya country detail, but Kenya does not show up in the color-code list of “green” countries.
I have speculated that the dual date format acceptance in Kenya may be due to the fact that Kenya was formed from the merger of two entities, Kenya Colony and Kenya Protectorate, each of which may have preserve its own format. Nairobi is in the longer term UK administered area Mombasa is in the Protectorate area.
The wife in the Phillipines from whom he is separated is a U.S.C.
IIRC this notation was made by an INS agent in Baltimore in early 1964 shortly after Sr. was actually divorced from Stanley Ann and shortly before Sr. was deported.
Given the geographic ignorance of many highly educated Americans, this INS agent may have had a brain fart between Hawaii and the Philippines, or Sr., being a flagrant liar may have misled the agent and hid the divorce from his US citizen wife, thinking it would be better for his attempt to stay in the US to still be married, even if separated, and given a false location for her out of the country to put off further investigation that would reveal the divorce.
I have seen no evidence of any other US marriage. INS already had documented the claimed Hi marriage of Feb 2, 1961 to Stanley Ann and also the birth and name of Barry in August 1961. There was no INS follow-up for any suspicion of US bigamy on top of the suspicion that INS had documented of bigamy with the Kenyan and HI marriages.
“Sr.,being a flagrant liar may have misled the agent and hid the divorce from his US citizen wife,thinking it would be better for his attempt to stay in the US to still be married,even if separated,and given a false location for her out of the country to put off further investigation that would reveal the divorce.....”
That’s quite likely.
Plus we don’t have SADO’s passport info from before around 1968, so who knows, she could have visited there and SR ran with that.
Or SR just lied; looks like he did that with his age.... easy to do by a foreigner in u. S..... would take time & trouble for u.s. ins to check.
“I have seen no evidence of any other US marriage. INS already had documented the claimed Hi marriage of Feb 2,1961 to Stanley Ann and also the birth and name of Barry in August 1961. There was no INS follow-up for any suspicion of US bigamy on top of the suspicion that INS had documented of bigamy with the Kenyan and HI marriages.”
And the Kenyan - Hawaii marriage issue was brought to the attention of the ins by an irate person (can’t remember if they were in Kenya or Britain) I think it was the Kenyan lady’s mom?
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