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Reducing Sexual Harassment in the Military
Lawrence Journal World ^ | June 18, 2013 | Reasonmclucus

Posted on 06/23/2013 1:56:16 PM PDT by kathsua

Any effort to reduce sexual harassment in the military needs to recognize that some men have never learned to adequately control their sex drives. Unfortunately, the military may need many of these men for their military related skills. Winning wars requires using men, and women, who don't always play well with others. Thus, the military may need to find a way to reduce sex assaults while keeping those who have trouble controlling their zippers.

The military has some experience in this area because of personnel who occasionally "forget" who they are supposed to fight and who they are not supposed to fight. 99% of the time these men are valuable soldiers, sailors,etc. The military needs people who are willing to fight, but it needs to discourage assaults against other American military personnel by punishing their misconduct..

At one point I was considering suggesting that sex assault cases be turned over to the civilian court system. Then I remembered that the civilian justice system is so ineffective in this area that many women feel reporting sexual assaults is a waste of time. Conviction in civil courts requires proof beyond a reasonable doubt and many cases are just he said - she said with no actual other evidence to support the claim of rape..

The military may actually have a superior ability to handle these cases because it has alternative ways to deal with rule breakers. When I was in Vietnam we had a man from New York City assigned to our post office who had gotten lucky and arrived at a time when we needed a "warm body" to perform miscellaneous duties. He had never driven any kind of vehicle, so of course the army made him a truck driver. Shortly before I left Vietnam he was caught smoking pot. Instead of sending him to Long Binh Jail, the army simply reassigned him to an infantry company.

The civilian courts only options for punishment are probation, imprisonment or fines. The military can reassign someone to another unit, reduce an individual's rank or make it harder for him to get future promotions. The military could have some male only units that men who can't control their zippers could be reassigned to.

The military should change the way investigations are handled. Male officers have been having problems maintaining a proper relationship with those who claim to have been assaulted. The military could eliminate this problem by having female officers investigate assaults against female personnel.

The military can limit sexual stimulation by providing men and women with separate living areas. If men and women cannot be assigned to separate buildings some type of partition, even if its only some type of tarps or blankets should separate the male and female areas. If it isn't practical to provide separate showers for men and women, men and women should use the facilities at different times.. Physical training should be sexually segregated because seeing women exercise can arouse men even if the women are fully clothed and aren't using poles or other props.

Members of the "oldest profession" have long operated near military bases and followed military units around. Some feel that the term "hooker" comes from the women who provided their services to those under the command of MG Joseph Hooker during the Civil War. The military should consider allowing such women to operate their businesses on American bases. Those operating on bases in Muslim countries would have to be particularly discrete. The military might even consider establishing a "sex therapist" duty assignment.

Religious groups might complain. but providing a sexual outlet to those in high stress military assignments would be preferable to having some men attempt to force their attentions on women who aren't interested in them.


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: dumbass; military; reform; sexualharassment
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At the very least the military should have female personnel investigate. Men who may not want women in the military may decide to allow sexual harassment to discourage women from joining the military. I wonder what the public reaction would be to allowing prostitutes on military bases.
1 posted on 06/23/2013 1:56:16 PM PDT by kathsua
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To: kathsua
here's an idea: keep women out.
2 posted on 06/23/2013 1:56:56 PM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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To: schm0e

And homosexuals.


3 posted on 06/23/2013 1:57:46 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: kathsua

It isn’t about controlling men’s sex drives, it is about recognizing the kind of sex drives young athletic and virile young men possess.

Anyone who knows about the military recognizes that foreign brothels benefit mightily from the truth of this. Turning a blind eye to it and placing young women in front of these men is like waving a red cape in front of a bull.


4 posted on 06/23/2013 1:59:44 PM PDT by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: schm0e
here's an idea: keep women out.

There you go, using common sense again. Yes, that would go a long way toward solving a lot of problems.

5 posted on 06/23/2013 2:02:24 PM PDT by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: kathsua

We have watched how this works for 40 years, the female standard of acceptable behavior, becomes the government imposed standard on human behavior.


6 posted on 06/23/2013 2:08:20 PM PDT by ansel12 (Libertarians, Gays = in all marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws.)
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To: kathsua

“Winning wars requires using men, and women, who don’t always play well with others. “

Stopped reading right there.


7 posted on 06/23/2013 2:09:59 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: kathsua

Any effort to reduce sexual harassment in the military needs to recognize that some men have never learned to adequately control their sex drives. Unfortunately, the military may need many of these men for their military related skills. Winning wars requires using men, and women, who don’t always play well with others. Thus, the military may need to find a way to reduce sex assaults while keeping those who have trouble controlling their zippers.

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This first paragraph is such a load - I hardly know where to start. “Unfortunately, the military may need...”

WTF is unfortunate about a testosterone driven man reaady to engage the enemy? If the military wants weak-kneed pu$$ies (and apparently they do) then they can continue to recruit the queers.

Here’s an idea. QUIT trying to force women into combat roles.

If the military truly wanted to reduce sex assaults, they could respect the gender roles of men and women and not toss them both into the mix.

Geez. That first paragraph was so blatantly stupid - do I dare read any futher?


8 posted on 06/23/2013 2:12:08 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: kathsua
At the very least the military should have female personnel investigate. Men who may not want women in the military may decide to allow sexual harassment to discourage women from joining the military. I wonder what the public reaction would be to allowing prostitutes on military bases.

What garbage.

9 posted on 06/23/2013 2:14:41 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Responsibility2nd

“The military could have some male only units that men who can’t control their zippers could be reassigned to. “

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I was wrong. I thought after the first paragraph, this shizzit couldn’t get any stupider. I see it does.

Whats next? Assigning queers to their own units?


10 posted on 06/23/2013 2:14:43 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: kathsua

You posted this garbage, you’d better defend it.


11 posted on 06/23/2013 2:15:56 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: kathsua

In the past, prostitutes were not allowed on bases. They were located at clubs off bases. But, with recent DOD rules, anybody visiting brothels could be prosecuted for human trafficking and other offenses.

I think the most effective solution would be to have an all-male, homosexual-free military. But, that is not going to happen.

Barring that, I think training which emphasizes respect for the opposite sex and separate living and bathing facilities is the only way to reduce the incidence of sexual assault. However, the military already does that, so I don’t see what the big fuss is all about then. If during IGs, commanders are found to be not enforcing the law, these commanders than could be relieved of command and subject to punishment under the UCMJ.


12 posted on 06/23/2013 2:18:47 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Jean S

I think thats her problem. She DOES defend this article. Instead of denouncing it as lunacy.

I don’t look for her to respond any further on this matter.


13 posted on 06/23/2013 2:18:51 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: kathsua

Have you ever served in the military?


14 posted on 06/23/2013 2:19:54 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: kathsua

My advice to Christians is to stay out of the military. It is decidedly anti-Christian these days.

Some of the rapes going on now are men on men. I don’t know what the percentage is, but a lot of young men are sharing the rape experience with young women in the military.

My suggestion is that the military return the institute of firing squads to handle rapists. Help society get rid of scum and gang members.


15 posted on 06/23/2013 2:41:17 PM PDT by pallis
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To: kathsua
"I wonder what the public reaction would be to allowing prostitutes on military bases?"

We already have that, including "women" on submarines.....they make a ton of extra money there.

16 posted on 06/23/2013 2:42:46 PM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: kathsua

No one has offered the slightest hint of proof that sexual harassment or assault is worse in the military than in the outside world. I keep hearing that 90% of the crimes go unreported. If they’re unreported then HOW DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THEM? Please enlighten us on this clairvoyance that you have on this subject.

Second off, every senior commander who hasn’t defended his/her subordinates and identified this witch-hunt for what it is should be immediately fired. The NSA has their cell phone, e-mail, and internet records, they should look for the search term “FEMDOM”. I’m sure it’s heavily used because these commanders sure are submissive. I’m sure not seeing a whole lot of commanding going on here.


17 posted on 06/23/2013 2:43:31 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: kathsua

Wow, political correctness has consequences.

Gee, who would of thought.


18 posted on 06/23/2013 2:45:21 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: kathsua

“I wonder what the public reaction would be to allowing prostitutes on military bases. “

Um, they ARE there. So?


19 posted on 06/23/2013 2:48:04 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: pallis

It’s about 10%.


20 posted on 06/23/2013 2:51:13 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
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