her work she could possibly provide to Mike Zullo’s team and other interested investigators.
They could in time.
They should use only the software that was only available for the machine back in April 2011.
Posted on 08/07/2013 6:29:11 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
The following image is a composite created by scanning the WH LFBC using Xerox WorkCentre 7655 upside down using the automatic feeder. The resulting file was opened in Preview, the image rotated 180 degrees and printed to PDF. The resulting PDF was opened in preview, the layers unlocked and moved to the side. In addition, a close up of the signature was ‘blown up’ to show how the background layer, not surprisingly, has filled in some of the white that resulted from the separation of the background and foreground layers.
Note how for example the signature block is fully separated.
(Excerpt) Read more at nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com ...
“If 0bama’s bc is real, why did he feel it necessary to have the phoney ‘green security paper’ background added to it?”
I have yet to see conclusive evidence that the green background was “added”...only speculation. In my personal experience, scan settings can produce variable capture of the color background independent of the sharpness of the text and images on that background on a document.
Obots claim that the AP/Applewhite scan has much higher resolution than the green WH pdf, despite having a less distict light blue “security paper” pattern instead of a clearer green pattern and lower resolution in the WH pdf.
If true, this leads to the conclusion that the green WH pdf is NOT the original forged image that predated any other copy, but is, instead, downstream from a hard copy, possible the same hard copy that was scanned to make the AP scan. Note that the higher resolution AP/Applewhite scan has the bleed-through of the COLB (per Obots).
“Hawaii has NEVER confirmed that the information on the short form COLB is correct? Not once have they ever acknowledged it.”
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Yes, I stated that badly. Hawaii has confirmed that the information on the COLB matches that in the offical state records (because it in turn matches what’s on the LFBC).
But that is all that the verification means. It does not imply that when they issued the Letters of Verification, they did any research to determine whether the data in the official records is factually correct.
Good stuff here:
http://www.theobamafile.com/obamacolb.htm
and here:
And WND.com has tons of analysis.
“Hawaii has confirmed that the information on the COLB matches that in the offical state records (because it in turn matches what’s on the LFBC).”
That’s not true since the Hawaii Department of Health has never responded to that type of formal request pertaining to the COLB itself.
“That’s not true since the Hawaii Department of Health has never responded to that type of formal request pertaining to the COLB itself.”
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Come on, CCPS, it takes more than word play to address this one.
The LFBC contains a statement saying that the President was born in Hawaii, and that DoH confirms that the official records also say that. Therefore, the statement in the COLB that the President was born in Hawaii is without question also in agreement with the official records. There’s no way around it.
You seem to have trouble understanding the fact that the Letters of Verification refer not to specific documents but rather to specific information.
“Onaka would not verify the truth of any of the claims on the COLB or the long-form.”
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BZ, as I’ve told you repeatedly, Onaka’s job is to verify that the information on the LFBC (of which the information in the COLB is a subset) matches what’s in Hawaii’s official records, and that’s exactly what he’s done.
You keep complaining that he didn’t verify the factual truth of that information.
I’ve asked you over and over, how do you expect him to do that? What sources do you think he is required to examine, sources that in your mind would be more reliable than the official records of the State of Hawaii? Remember, he wasn’t physically present at the time of the birth 52 years ago, and other than the President, I don’t think we know of anyone still alive who was.
Unless you are willing to answer that question, your point doesn’t make much sense.
The statements and actions by Hawaiian Dept. Of Health officials can not be taken as credible anymore because the April 27, 2011 birth certificate has been found to be a forgery by an authoritative law enforcement agency, namely the Maricopa County Sheriffs Office under Joe Arpaio. It has also been found to be a forgery confirmed in a 40 page independent report by Hawaii forensic handwriting and computer-document attestation examiner Reed Hayes. You know this to be true.
Seeming to respond to FReeper questions about scaling and the green security paper background, Fogblower “NBC” has posted two blog posts that allow detailed comparison of the WH LFBC pdf to her own claimed replication of that LFBC pdf:
“WH LFBC PDF – Layers and scaling/rotation”
http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2013/08/12/wh-lfbc-pdf-layers-and-scalingrotation/#more-46895
“As various other people have documented, the WH document contains several monochrome bitmaps and a single JPEG encoded background. It’s these features which caused some concern amongst those who insist that President Obama’s LFBC must be fraudulent.”
“Xerox 7655 PDF – Layers and scaling/rotation”
http://nativeborncitizen.wordpress.com/2013/08/12/xerox-7655-pdf-layers-and-scalingrotation/
“I can now share with you that the Xerox 7655 PDF reproduces these features.”
Ah, we’re moving the goal posts again, are we?
When I said, “Hawaii has confirmed that the information on the COLB matches that in the offical state records,” you said, “That’s not true.”
But it was true, wasn’t it? So now you have to fall back on the generalized claim that, OK, they did confirm it, but they can’t be trusted.
That’s awfully weak. First of all, I’ve been asking you for evidence that the COLB was fake, and you’re not going to get anywhere with that by presenting evidence concerning the LFBC. They’re two different documents.
But, even more important, you are outright lying when you say that I “know ... to be true” that the L has been found to be a forgery based on Reed Hayes’s report. Surely you don’t need me to tell you that the report has never been released to the public, so all we have is someone else’s opinion of what’s been proven.
So, not only have you not yet produced a shred of evidence concerning the COLB, you are trying to pretend that the case of the COLB is covered by a claim of proof concerning another document, a proof that no one has even seen, and you’re lying to boot.
Very poor performance, CCPS. You have gotten nowhere.
Don’t post links for this creepazoid. Don’t give him web traffic.
Without the ability to check their latest crap coming from the Obama bums at Fogblow and the OBot “nativeborn” twits, they can say anything.
Thanks for your reply, Fanastywriter! I figured he was some kind of professional, I could only think fogblower or admin hireling. Sooner or later the flickering serpentine forked tongue reveals itself, eh!
“It’s not my confusion. You’re the one making an objection and you still aren’t making sense.”
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That’s a shame, Joe. Maybe you can ask a friend to read it to you and help you understand it.
They get zotted they come back, They get zotted again they come back and again and again.
Notice we don’t go over to their smelly and crappy website.
Zullo has repeatedly stated that if any person comes forward to demonstrate that the WH pdf can be replicated without forgery, he will withdraw his charge of criminal forgery based on his claim of inability by his experts to replicate the WH NBC.
Sgt. Friday is my hero. “Just the facts, Ma’am.”
As a retired CPA and Certified Fraud Examiner (CFE) I have been trained to look at the facts wherever they come from and wherever they lead.
FogBlower, NBC, has come forward with a pdf that responds directly to Mike Zullo’s challenge. She has claimed she has replicated the WH pdf (with the exception of halos that she says she is still working on). Some FReepers may chose to ignore this challenge, but I chose not to.
I do not endorse the claims made by NBC. I do not have the Xerox compression or digital image experience to evaluate these claims personally but I feel it is important to facilitate awareness that this challenge to Mike Zullo has been made. I believe that FReepers and others with Xerox compression and pdf expertise will be able to open the pdf files that NBC has provided and post their own assessments yea or nay regarding her claims. Several FReepers have already weighed in.
The great joy over in FogBlowerland over NBC’s work betrays the previous inadequacy of their prior claims to have debunked Mike Zullo’s claims by mere hand-waiving.
Lack of transparency by Barry and his team has been the huge problem here and I believe that transparency on FR regarding NBC’s claims is totally appropriate unless JR says otherwise. Your mileage may vary.
Zullo needs all the help he can get and preventing him from undermining his credibility and the credibility of GOP lawmakers by persisting in declaring PROOF of pdf forgery when the proof MAY have been refuted will help preserve the credibility of other claims Zullo has made which are very much still in play, IMO. Zullo has invited correction if he has made claims in error!
You’re very welcome. Oh, & here’s another question the bug guy just loves to answer: why he became a conservative. lol
Actually, judging from his past, you have to wonder. Did he think the way to increase traffic to this site is to treat good conservatives like dog crap? Or did he do that precisely in order to decrease traffic?
Either way, I notice he’s on better behavior lately. Not quite so heavy on the insults/put downs as in the good ole days.
“Without the ability to check their latest crap coming from the Obama bums at Fogblow and the OBot “nativeborn” twits, they can say anything.”
From what I see, NBC has provided the explicit equipment and steps she used to “replicate” the WH pdf (with the exception of the halos) along with posting the resulting “replicated” pdf. I’m not sure how much more “ability to check” her work she could possibly provide to Mike Zullo’s team and other interested investigators.
her work she could possibly provide to Mike Zullo’s team and other interested investigators.
They could in time.
They should use only the software that was only available for the machine back in April 2011.
The information on the COLB is not validated due to Alvin Onaka not verifying the information on the long form is ‘a True And Accurate Representation Of The Original Record’. If the information on the confirmed forged document matches the information in the Hawaii Dept. Of Health files as Obaka indirectly suggested which made the confirmation legally invalid, then that information on the 2007 COLB can’t be considered legitimate either. That also means the birth index file is not to be considered accurate. The 52 year old alleged birth record and microfilm needs to be examined.
Have you considered that NBC could be doctoring her evidence to make it seem legit? Read this.
http://www.wnd.com/2011/10/356005/
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