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It's a trap!
Flopping Aces ^ | 08-31-13 | DrJohn

Posted on 09/01/2013 9:23:54 AM PDT by Starman417

trap

For Assad?

Don't make me laugh.

Make no mistake- Obama has set a trap. A cagey, crass political trap. It is a trap designed to bail his a$$ out of the corner into which he's painted himself.

Obama has set the trap for the GOP.

A year ago Barack Obama blurted out the now-infamous "red line" words regarding Syria. The classic Obama hubris has boxed him in. He told the world how he would teach Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad a lesson- that the US has an "obligation" to attack Syria.

A war-weary United States has little appetite for another conflict and polls reflect this. Barack Obama is sensitive to one thing above all- his own political viability- and his plans for a Syrian attack reflect this. He said an attack would be limited in scope and regime change was not a goal. And now he wants to consult with Congress before he acts but lest anyone think he's become a weenie he's said that he's willing to go it alone.

Obama had no interest in Congress' approval when he toppled Gaddafi in Libya. So you have to ask yourself- why now? Why does Obama want to involve Congress now?

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TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: dnc4alqaeda; obama; obama4alqaeda; obamatreason; redline; syria; typicalobamatreason
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1 posted on 09/01/2013 9:23:54 AM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417

Meanwhile, while many look for the Machiavellian reasoning behind the chess-master, the rest of the world looks on and laughs at the fool they clearly see.


2 posted on 09/01/2013 9:27:27 AM PDT by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: Starman417

3 posted on 09/01/2013 9:29:38 AM PDT by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: Starman417

I would rather vote no, than lose 1 American life, spend 1 American dollar
or take the live of innocent Syrians. As Palin says, Let Allah sort it out.


4 posted on 09/01/2013 9:30:25 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Starman417

5 posted on 09/01/2013 9:31:44 AM PDT by FLAMING DEATH (I'm not racist - I hate Biden too!)
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To: Starman417

Remember, Obama,.better.the whole world think you a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.


6 posted on 09/01/2013 9:33:20 AM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.")
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To: Starman417

The public does not support going to Syria.

Jesus, not everything is some elaborate plot by this idiot. Just f*cking vote NO.


7 posted on 09/01/2013 9:33:28 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Starman417

8 posted on 09/01/2013 9:35:56 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Starman417

I wonder ...

what if the Senate and House passed a resolution voting “no,” but on the condition that the President make the final decision in writing?


9 posted on 09/01/2013 9:36:05 AM PDT by agrarianlady
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To: Starman417
Republicans should take a page from the RAT play book and simply vote Present when the time comes, let the RATS vote it up or down...
10 posted on 09/01/2013 9:37:24 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Starman417

Mr. President your leadership sucks. I am not supporting you in any battle, much less a war. And get your damned foot off the desk. Where the hell were you brought up?


11 posted on 09/01/2013 9:41:12 AM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

THE FOREIGNER no doubt looks the fool, because he is one.
THE U.S. can never look a fool, because we are not one. The stink from these mouth farts from the third world countries will never reach the american people.


12 posted on 09/01/2013 9:46:36 AM PDT by spawn44 ( MOO)
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To: Starman417

This is not about regime change, nor war, nor supporting the MB or Assad.

This is about THE GOLD. The REAL GOLD (not the tungsten filled crap that has flooded the market) was being kept hiddin in Ghadaffi’s Libyan National Bank. The consortium of international bankers of the Western Allies had put it there (what we call the FED RES).

Obama went after Ghadaffi with Cruise Missiles to try and convince him to abandon the GOLD. Didn’t Work. Ghadaffi had shipped the GOLD out to a SAFE PLACE, impossible for WESTERN ALLIES to gain access to.

As payment for moving the GOLD and hiding it, we let Ghadaffi be butt-raped and murdered in the streets of Libya. Not just ‘let’, but ARRANGED IT.

So.... where did the GOLD GO ? Well, where is Obama threatening to shoot a bunch of CRUISE MISSILES again ?

SYRIA. It was hidden in Syria, and Obama (as well as leaders of other Western Allies) have been told by the Banking Elite to get it back, or else.

England, France, etc. were involved in this and willing to help, like they did in Libya. However, Obama has made a complete mess of it, and the other Western Allis are backing down for the moment because the citizens of their countries think Obama is an ass, and the mission is stupid, and won’t support it or the politicians tasked with completing it.

So.... Obama is out there by himself, willing to sacrifice Syrians, and US Soldiers to get the GOLD. The game is how to ‘swing it’ so the public supports it.

All the claims about Assad gassing or using biochem weapons are just ways to try and get the nation’s support.

International support keeps dropping, and Obama has to keep calling MULLIGANS.

The problem for us is that sooner or later, it will happen. The Consortium of International Bankers (FED RES), the High Rollers in Finance, and all the politicians who had their GOLD STASH hidden in Libya will have to act or perish.

This is what is happening with Syria, and as I keep saying.... It’s all about the MONEY (in the form of GOLD BARS). It always is.


13 posted on 09/01/2013 9:47:49 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Chgogal

“”And get your damned foot off the desk. Where the hell were you brought up?””

Just sent my email to the WH. Everyone needs to do it. I used the “contact” on whitehouse.gov to send it. I kept it civil but it was difficult!!! I said he probably wouldn’t see it but could someone please do him a favor, in case he was never taught any manners, to let him know that we, the people deserve respect, and the many fine men who have sat at that desk deserve the respect. For him to behave otherwise is tacky!

Pile on. Doesn’t make sense for us to complain to one another. The WH needs to hear from all of us - kind of reminds me of GWB’s words on 9/12/01..


14 posted on 09/01/2013 9:48:58 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Starman417

Voting “present” would send multiple messages, all them in The Won’s face.


15 posted on 09/01/2013 9:49:01 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When your policy is to rob Peter to pay Paul, you can count on enthusiastic support from Paul.)
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To: Starman417
There are still enough neocon idiots in congress that will ultimately go with the "we need to do this for the sake of US respect around the world" to make sure this passes.

What a grand opportunity to give Obama a 'No'. This would not only slow down the crazy train heading for Syria, but would also undermine Obama on Obamacare and immigration.

Obama has handed his "opponents" a golden opportunity to turn him into a lame duck president one year into his term.

But of course the Republicans aren't really his opponents, so they will not see this as the grand opportunity it is and once more will let it sift through their hands.

What a bunch of schmucks.

16 posted on 09/01/2013 9:49:28 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: tennmountainman

I agree with you and Sarah that we should stay out of this conflict. Rather, we should just let them go ‘duke it out’ on their own. Besides, what if they will blame the Republicans for voting no on going into Syria if it comes to that?

Since when, did ‘do the right thing’ become a political decision?


17 posted on 09/01/2013 9:49:29 AM PDT by aloppoct (stucnsf)
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To: Starman417

Syria....one little problem when everything else is going so well for the Democrats.


18 posted on 09/01/2013 9:49:30 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Starman417

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzCOL6ewpPw

Charge of the Light Brigade.


19 posted on 09/01/2013 9:49:47 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: FLAMING DEATH

Perfect! Where do I get one?


20 posted on 09/01/2013 9:49:52 AM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Obama didn’t want to go after Qadaffi. The only reason why he did it was because our NATO allies pressed the issue. If he was really committed, we wouldn’t have had this vacuum that was later exploited by islamoterrorists.

You don’t get this supposed ‘gold’ by shooting from a distance and letting the rebels do all the work.


21 posted on 09/01/2013 9:53:29 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama is the biggest joke. But I can't laugh.)
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To: Starman417

IT'S A TARP!


22 posted on 09/01/2013 9:54:13 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Starman417

Well, yes. But this wasn’t the original plan. Obama thought he would have Britain and France joining in, like he did in Libya, and perhaps could say once again that the war was being led by NATO, not by HIM. He had David Cameron’s promise to join the party.

But Cameron was surprised by parliament, which voted his war measure down and gave him a real political kick in the pants.

Never mind that he is severely damaging the reputation of the U.S. by this behavior. Never mind that South Korea is now threatened by North Korea, who will not believe Obama’s promises that he’ll make them pay for any attacks on the South. Never mind that Iran will continue developing nuclear weapons, confident that Obama will do nothing to stop them. Never mind that Israel is put at risk.

His only real concern is to shift the political damage off his own image, and lay it on congress—which the press will be happy to help. They’ve had plenty of practice at this one, and Boehner is too damned stupid, or blackmailed, to fight back.

So, backed into a corner, Obama took the best way out—for him. Never mind that he is severely damaging


23 posted on 09/01/2013 9:54:54 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Starman417

Obama wants to shift blame.

If we were to go, congress was behind him.

If we stay out, it’s not his fault if things go badly.

Congress should say you went into Libya without our approval. Why is it needed now?


24 posted on 09/01/2013 9:55:41 AM PDT by boycott
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To: Cicero

. . . severely damaging his country and its allies.


25 posted on 09/01/2013 9:56:59 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: tennmountainman

I would rather vote no, than lose 1 American life, spend 1 American dollar
or take the live of innocent Syrians. As Palin says, Let Allah sort it out.


Agree. If obamar wants to go, I want him on the front line.


26 posted on 09/01/2013 9:57:06 AM PDT by boycott
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To: martin_fierro

that about ‘covers’ it !


27 posted on 09/01/2013 9:57:58 AM PDT by aloppoct (stucnsf)
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To: Cicero

“Never mind that Iran will continue developing nuclear weapons, confident that Obama will do nothing to stop them. Never mind that Israel is put at risk”

and the US. oh well...Sept 11 is just a few days away.


28 posted on 09/01/2013 9:58:26 AM PDT by ari-freedom (Obama is the biggest joke. But I can't laugh.)
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To: Starman417

29 posted on 09/01/2013 9:58:59 AM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: FLAMING DEATH
Best sticker statement I've seen in a long time.
30 posted on 09/01/2013 10:00:23 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: aloppoct

You hit it on the head!

What was once a strike to punish Syria has now become political.
Something a decision to exercise American Power SHOULD never
be based on.

It has to be more than saving face for Obama, or even saying face
for American image around the world.


31 posted on 09/01/2013 10:01:33 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Chode
Republicans should take a page from the RAT play book and simply vote Present when the time comes

BUMP THIS...but I'm afraid they wont have the balls to do it.

32 posted on 09/01/2013 10:01:50 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: Starman417

Congress should take a page out of Obama’s playbook and just vote “Present”. Let any action be his and his alone.


33 posted on 09/01/2013 10:01:58 AM PDT by Mr. Binnacle (They say hindsight is 20-20. Maybe...But foresight is zeroed at 300 yards.)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
yup, no balls/spineless weasels that they are...
34 posted on 09/01/2013 10:04:18 AM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Starman417
We have let the Government use the threat of Terrorism to create and endow a Semi-Totalitarian Police State designed not to fight the empty threat of Terrorism but to spy and control us.
The actual chances of any Terrorist activity affecting any of us is almost Nil.
Yet you add the tag Terrorism or Terrorist to any activity and every ABC Agency in the Government comes out. Witness what happened in Boston. Two imbeciles doing what they did leads to the shut down of major city for almost a week. I have yet to see any estimates of what that debacle cost economically there.
We are a war weary nation and it’s long since time to withdraw and bring our forces home. Let the Arabs fight it out and figure it out themselves.
The truth on what happened in Syria with those gas attacks is murky at best and I would be the rebel forces used them.
So lets just get out!!!!!
35 posted on 09/01/2013 10:06:57 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Starman417

This character's name is Admiral Akbar. Could his full name be Admiral allahu akbar, a clear tipoff?

36 posted on 09/01/2013 10:22:42 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (For congress, it's not the principle of the thing, it's the money.)
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To: UCANSEE2
"So.... Obama is out there by himself, willing to sacrifice Syrians, and US Soldiers to get the GOLD. The game is how to ‘swing it’ so the public supports it.

All the claims about Assad gassing or using biochem weapons are just ways to try and get the nation’s support."

I think B. Hussein O. is getting desperate.

I would not be surprised if he arranged an "event" in the U.S. as part of argument for attacking Syria. Americans would rally for war if American soil had an "event" - they are not interested in what happens over there.

I guess NSA just added to my file for saying this.

37 posted on 09/01/2013 10:36:48 AM PDT by hummingbird (Don't be afraid of the big words.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"Voting “present” would send multiple messages, all them in The Won’s face."

You bet'cha!

38 posted on 09/01/2013 10:38:55 AM PDT by hummingbird (Don't be afraid of the big words.)
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To: Starman417

Congress doesn’t have to vote to approve an attack.

But, they can vote to approve a decision by the president, thereby relieving themselves from the final decision. Then, whatever decision comes from the administration, will be owned by the president.

Obama wants to lay blame on congress (mostly the GOP) for attacking or not attacking Syria. Congress can pass that blame back to Obama. Congress can pretend to be ambivalent or neutral or uncaring, while Obama will have to act to attack or not. Either way, the decision will be Obama’s. He can’t win no matter what he does, and no matter what side in Syria he chooses to “help”.


39 posted on 09/01/2013 10:40:56 AM PDT by adorno (Y)
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He (Generalissimo Ubanga) said an attack would be limited in scope and regime change was not a goal.

Okay.
Did Ubanga say what the goal is?

40 posted on 09/01/2013 10:41:11 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

The “goal” is to make Obama look good....that’s all he cares about.


41 posted on 09/01/2013 10:41:47 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: adorno

One freeper, GreenHornet, proposed the interesting idea that Republicans should vote “present” and leave the entire decision up to Ubama and the rats.


42 posted on 09/01/2013 10:43:48 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Starman417

It's a TARP!

43 posted on 09/01/2013 10:46:00 AM PDT by jaz.357 (Contrary To Ordinary)
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To: Starman417

The only trap I see, is one being laid by Mr. Putin.


44 posted on 09/01/2013 10:46:11 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: jaz.357

45 posted on 09/01/2013 10:47:50 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Starman417

Is there any doubt that the “rebels” in Syria are al Qaeda?

Is there any doubt that al Qaeda are enemies of the United States?

Is there any doubt that this alleged president is aiding and abetting them?

Is there anything in the supreme law of the land that explicitly addresses this?

“Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.” — The U.S. Constitution, Article III, Section 3

I’m just asking...

By the way, the same thing was true in Libya, Dictator Obama’s personal little barbaric dirty war.


46 posted on 09/01/2013 10:49:52 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Throw All The Bums Out.)
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To: Lancey Howard

The honorable thing to do is to vote NO.


47 posted on 09/01/2013 10:51:10 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Throw All The Bums Out.)
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To: Starman417; a fool in paradise

48 posted on 09/01/2013 10:51:27 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: EternalVigilance
The honorable thing to do is to vote NO.

Yep.

49 posted on 09/01/2013 10:55:05 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: EternalVigilance
The honorable thing to do is to vote NO.

You're assuming Republicans are honorable.

They'll have their lips firmly affixed to Barry's tush like they always do.

50 posted on 09/01/2013 10:56:32 AM PDT by dfwgator
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