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Video: EBT System Crash: 16 States Out of Service:
SHTF Plan ^ | 10/13/13 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 10/13/2013 1:31:32 PM PDT by Kartographer

If you ever wanted to know what the United States might look like and how people will react should the EBT system fail, then pay close attention

I go to the register and they ask me “how you going to pay.”

I said with food stamps.

“Oh, we’re shut down, you can’t pay with food stamps.”

I got kids to feed. You know?

And because the government’s down I can’t feed my family?

What’s going on with America? Now they trying to starve us to death?

…This is crazy

…I got six kids I have to feed.

I’m just trying to figure out how to get something to eat.

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KEYWORDS: barrycades; ebt; foodstamps; operationwhipcracker; preparedness; preppers; welfarestate
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I believe this to be a test for the chaos that 'Bama' is planing as to bring down the house.
1 posted on 10/13/2013 1:31:33 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer

There’s a Great Storm coming everyone is feeling it and its one of the reason everyone is on edge. Deep down the alarm bells are ring the nerves on on edge and the mind is unsettled.

Its your choice you can prep or you can stand around on a bridge waiting for FEMA to bring you a bottle of water, a MRE, a warm blanket and a kiss for your boo-boo and maybe you can even get your picture as you stand there on the national news.

Any one with half a brain can look around and see for themselves what is happening right before their eyes.

So listen to what the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it. NIV Proverbs 22:3

One of the things Selco covers in this article is the fact that many will not accept that a breakdown is occurring even as they watch it happening before their eyes. Why don’t they realize it? It’s caused by a condition called ‘Normalcy Bias’ a mental state people enter when facing a disaster.

It causes people to underestimate both the possibility of a disaster occurring and its possible effects. This often results in situations where people fail to adequately prepare for a disaster, and on a larger scale, the failure of governments to include the populace in its disaster preparations. The assumption that is made in the case of the normalcy bias is that since a disaster never has occurred then it never will occur. It also results in the inability of people to cope with a disaster once it occurs. People with a normalcy bias have difficulties reacting to something they have not experienced before. People also tend to interpret warnings in the most optimistic way possible, seizing on any ambiguities to infer a less serious situation.

A good article on ‘Normalcy Bias’ is on our own ChocChipCookies Blog The Survival Mom:

http://thesurvivalmom.com/2010/12/29/normalcy-bias/

You either prepare and stand on your own beholden to no one or you become dependent on others to provide your basic needs and become their ‘serf’. Me I don’t want to be beholden to anyone for providing what is needed for me and mine. I certainly don’t want to have to kiss some ‘gubberment’ third class bureaucratic to try and coax some help from them, I don’t want some ‘jack booted’ thug herding me in line and telling me where to stand, sit, eat or sleep. And last but not least I don’t want to be shut up in with a bunch of ‘zombies’ and have to worry about not only trying to get basic necessities but having to fight to keep what I manage to get.

But I honestly believe this was a test and that we have a few more weeks, maybe even until after the holidays, but not much more.

Now I can be wrong and Lord I hope so. And if I am those who have mock me and belittled me and even threatened me will rejoice, but what can they do that they haven’t done already?

I have done what I could to prepare those that would listen, I’ve fought the good fight and as a watchman I have blown the trumpet as loud as I could to warn that the sword and fire come.

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, cash (I myself have been putting up change for the past few years both for the metal content and the fact that using change to make what purchases you can will move you down the the list of possible marks during shtf), tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

http://tomeaker.com/kart/Preparedness1j.pdf NOTE! THIS IS A FREE DOWNLOAD. I DO NOT MAKE ONE CENT OFF MY PREPAREDNESS MANUAL!

Again I like to recommend FReeper’s ChocoChipCookie Blog The Survival Mom (Please Blog Police let this one slide!) Where you can get lots of useful information like:

http://thesurvivalmom.com/2011/11/20/8-morale-boosters-for-any-worst-case-scenario/

http://thesurvivalmom.com/2010/02/02/survival-priorities-the-rule-of-three/

And More

Also there is Ferfal’s Blog a survivor of Argentina’s first collapse:

http://ferfal.blogspot.com/

And there is Selco’s Blog a Bosnian War survivor at:

http://shtfschool.com/

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger. Underestimation can be fatal.”


2 posted on 10/13/2013 1:34:17 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
I’m just trying to figure out how to get something to eat.

If you're not going to work, purchasing a hunting rifle is the next best option.

3 posted on 10/13/2013 1:35:53 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The DemocRAT Pahtay! Spending our grandchildren's future, today!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Do you really want this kind of person armed? ;-)


4 posted on 10/13/2013 1:36:55 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

It’s illuminating to note that no one in the media seems to know just how many states lost EBT payment capability.

Even the most disinterested and inattentive news source should be capable of finding that number with even the most minimal effort.


5 posted on 10/13/2013 1:37:57 PM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Kartographer

If this system ever goes down in a big way, you’ll know exactly where to find the Blue States...just follow the smoke plume...


6 posted on 10/13/2013 1:40:42 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Kartographer

I doubt its a test. These are state contracts which go to the lowest bidder. I have first hand knowledge of a different company which handles quite a few states. To say the systems are held together with band aids and bubblegum is an understatement.

IMO its a symptom of how we’re holding on by our fingernails.


7 posted on 10/13/2013 1:40:55 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: null and void

It was 57 ask obama


8 posted on 10/13/2013 1:41:23 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom ;Sarcasm is my bidness)
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To: Kartographer

Which states were involved? Unable to find a complete list.

vob


9 posted on 10/13/2013 1:43:14 PM PDT by Vob (free radical community organizer)
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To: Kartographer

K —

Thank you for posting this. I’ve been prepping for a couple of years. My kids think I’m crazy. But, they know I don’t cry wolf unless here is a wolf.

Again, thanks for posting this.

Gwjack


10 posted on 10/13/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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To: Kartographer
I proved to my family that we could eat three meals a day of nutritious food for .33 cents a day per meal with a family of five. That was back in 2002, but I'll even go to .40 with inflation.

Oatmeal, cabbage, meats for seasoning (not as the main course), potatoes, carrots, apples, etc.... Especially key is what's in season and preserve it.

Did you know you can buy 100# sacks of potatoes for $5.00? The ones that are too big. Same with carrots. A harvested field leaves behind at least 10% edible crop residue or uncollected items.

When the suckers run in the spring, you can walk into the knee deep water and toss em on shore while your partner loads up burlap bags of them. You take em home, clean, skin, and pickle the filets. It's nothing to load up 300 pounds in your trunk in two hours.

It's hard family work that keeps you connected, away from the TV, and out of the bars. It's all about choices.

11 posted on 10/13/2013 1:52:48 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Kartographer
I think that's as good a theory as any. Thank God I'm in the U.P. this weekend loading up a trailer of firewood for the winter and test firing my new "toys."

Heading home tomorrow, where I live 35 miles SW of Chicago. Let the little government cheese eaters starve as far as I'm concerned. They voted for this shit, they get to live (and die) in it.

12 posted on 10/13/2013 1:53:08 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Kartographer

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

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And don’t expect them to share with gentiles either. LDS ‘preparedness’ is all about hoarding.

Where I live, we live preparedness as a way of life, we don’t expect anything from the government, but we won’t hoard either. We will help our neighbors.


13 posted on 10/13/2013 1:54:18 PM PDT by reaganaut (I don't do hopey-changey. I do ouchy-bleedy.)
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To: reaganaut; Gosh I love this neighborhood; GILTN1stborn

No one is getting my stash of sauerkraut. This last week our family did up 27 heads of cabbage into kraut.

Now I just need onions and a pig. And some potatoes...


14 posted on 10/13/2013 2:02:53 PM PDT by Mrs. P
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To: Mrs. P

Would you consider bartering it for some fresh game, or canned beets, tomatoes, or salsa?

Oh and I can bring the onions and potatoes... ;)


15 posted on 10/13/2013 2:10:22 PM PDT by reaganaut (I don't do hopey-changey. I do ouchy-bleedy.)
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To: Kartographer
So is there a list of which states are "down"?

Need ammo and want to know if it's safe to go to Walmart.

16 posted on 10/13/2013 2:15:37 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Because 2 terms with Jerry Brown as Governor was all I could take.)
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To: Mrs. P

Don’t forget kraut salad!


17 posted on 10/13/2013 2:18:34 PM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: InABunkerUnderSF

Our local dollar store had a sign up that soory ebt users , things were on the blink, it looked current, but I’m a taxpayer, what do I know.


18 posted on 10/13/2013 2:19:31 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Mrs. P

Kahlua pig is yummmmy.. Done that a couple times. I got some nice apples for him..


19 posted on 10/13/2013 2:21:07 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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I’m most impressed by the number of people that leave their full carts in the store with perishable items. These same people and more usually leave their empty cart brushing up against my car or behind it, requiring me to move it. Its always some one else’s job.

Its seems govt. money or free money cant buy decency or good manners.


20 posted on 10/13/2013 2:21:45 PM PDT by RBStealth (--raised by wolves, disciplined and educated by nuns.)
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To: blackdog

Oatmeal, cabbage, meats for seasoning (not as the main course), potatoes, carrots, apples, etc.... Especially key is what’s in season and preserve it.

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Ever make Beirocks?

I can and do feed my family for under $125 per month.


21 posted on 10/13/2013 2:25:21 PM PDT by reaganaut (I don't do hopey-changey. I do ouchy-bleedy.)
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To: Kartographer

I knew about a week ago Friday when Hillary started talking about “Scorched Earth” something like this was going to happen.

What people really need to watch for is a repeat of 2006 when they got the illegals marching in the streets.


22 posted on 10/13/2013 2:35:36 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Kartographer

Reverse chaos. Some stores shut down in Louisiana after the cards were restarted... Without limits!


23 posted on 10/13/2013 2:41:28 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Vob

Louisiana for one

Strange how all these states are using the same vendor...


24 posted on 10/13/2013 2:42:10 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: reaganaut
We called them Pasty's.

I also make scrapple a lot. It's about 75% corn meal mush mixed with organ meats, sage, mace, pepper, and water. You pour it into bread pans to cool and then freeze. You cut it into 3/8" thick slices and then fry crisp on each side.

Most local butchers with a kill floor will give you the organ meats for free if you reliably pick them up on kill day. Pork hearts, kidneys, livers, and calf livers, hearts, and brains work very nicely. Hog tails, feet, snouts, tounges, and heads are good too. You just need to know what to do with them.

Did you know that cabbage yields over ten tons per acre? In a ten acre field there is usually a few hundred heads left behind by the automated pickers. These are the saurkraut heads of cabbage I'm talking about. They go 10 pounds a head. Six heads and you've got all the sauerkraut and boiled cabbage you can eat during a year. The stink in the garage from fermenting the buckets of sauerkraut might put off some folks, but I love the smell.

25 posted on 10/13/2013 2:42:15 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Kartographer

The House needs to turn off Bammy’s EBT.


26 posted on 10/13/2013 2:44:28 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: blackdog

I’m German, I love the smell of making Sauerkraut. :D


27 posted on 10/13/2013 2:47:31 PM PDT by reaganaut (I don't do hopey-changey. I do ouchy-bleedy.)
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To: Kartographer

mark


28 posted on 10/13/2013 2:47:41 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: driftdiver

any system that was a legacy system, not orignally designed to work across states, or with the latest ebt cards, will have legacy and interface issues.

same as in any business - new systems have to interface with old systems that never were designed to inteface with the new system, they’re held together piecemeal.


29 posted on 10/13/2013 2:49:13 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Kartographer
I got six kids I have to feed.

That's right. YOU have six kids, not me. It's YOUR responsibility, not mine nor my wallet. YOU get a job and don't ask for my paycheck.

I don't believe for a minute this wasn't ordered by hussein just like he ordered the park rangers to make the little people's lives difficult. A Chicago news station said that 1 out of 6 Chicagoans had EBT cards. Ridiculous! No wonder why it's broke. BTW, the cards weren't working in Texas, too.

30 posted on 10/13/2013 2:56:05 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Strange how all 57 states use the same vendor in Spain to count presidential votes.


31 posted on 10/13/2013 2:57:24 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Related...

http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2013/10/ebt-system-goes-down-obama-voters.html


32 posted on 10/13/2013 2:57:26 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: bgill

New phase. No limits.

http://www.wbrz.com/news/ebt-cards-return-to-service-some-with-no-limit/


33 posted on 10/13/2013 3:04:07 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Vob; Kartographer

I have the list of states that were impacted.

I’m at the cube farm right now, but when I get back I’ll post it.


34 posted on 10/13/2013 3:12:05 PM PDT by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: Vob; Kartographer
Here's the map:

The only ommission is that Oklahoma was also reporting outages as well.

35 posted on 10/13/2013 3:13:26 PM PDT by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: Secret Agent Man

In the company I know the systems are just poorly designed and maintained. Everything is bottom dollar because the margins don’t support millions of dollars for new systems.


36 posted on 10/13/2013 3:49:07 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Old Sarge
What does each color mean?

I see that Texas is green. I seriously doubt any EBT-related troubles would last here very long.

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37 posted on 10/13/2013 3:52:37 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: reaganaut
Salt (canning or sea), cabbage, and time. I'm always amazed at how it can still ferment with good bacteria and all that salt. Cabbage must be 90% water, because where it all comes from is a mystery to me?

The foamy scum I scrape from the top I toss into the pig's feed and they love it. When it stops fermenting we cold pack jar it.

I love doing red cabbage and beets too. Then I pack gallon size jars of hard boiled eggs and onions with it. I add a cinnimon stick, cloves, some brown sugar, and pickling spices.

38 posted on 10/13/2013 3:53:25 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: 3Fingas

The colors are random, assigned by the map program I used to generate the pic.

Basically, any colored-in state reported EBT outages.


39 posted on 10/13/2013 3:55:13 PM PDT by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: RBStealth

Don’t count every person guilty of a lack of respect, there are some who care...and do the right thing in showing respect for others and having good manners


40 posted on 10/13/2013 3:56:02 PM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: driftdiver

So is the regime flying in squads of HHS employees to hand out paper food stamps in the neighborhoods?

Don’t they care about America’s starving Democrat voters?


41 posted on 10/13/2013 3:58:25 PM PDT by nascarnation (Frequently wrong but rarely in doubt....)
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To: trussell

where did I say *all* or *every*, or are you pinging me because your lonely?


42 posted on 10/13/2013 4:04:35 PM PDT by RBStealth (--raised by wolves, disciplined and educated by nuns.)
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To: Old Sarge

Thanks for providing the map and the explanation of it.


43 posted on 10/13/2013 4:09:03 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution)
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To: Old Sarge

Thanks Sarge! Now it might be time to do a bit of digging.

vob


44 posted on 10/13/2013 4:09:47 PM PDT by Vob (free radical community organizer)
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To: usconservative
You had better not be loading up ash firewood. Its under quarantine up there.
45 posted on 10/13/2013 4:19:52 PM PDT by crz
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To: blackdog

You do your pickled eggs kinda sweet. I use onion, various peppers and go spicy on my eggs. I turned an extra bedroom into a canning kitchen and walk in pantry with old cupboards we salvaged from another Victorian we own in town (kitchen was mid century remodeled). “Canning Week” in town is a lot of fun, a bunch of us get together, meet down at the bar/restaurant in town help each other can and preserve and then share and barter.

Do you use 5 gallon buckets for the fermentation? I found these great screw on air tight lids for them that I use for my storage.


46 posted on 10/13/2013 4:21:02 PM PDT by reaganaut (I don't do hopey-changey. I do ouchy-bleedy.)
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To: RBStealth

Do you really have a need to be hostile? I was just making a comment, not accusing. Though you did say “Its always some one else’s job.”

If I were lonely, I dang sure wouldn’t ping you to fix it. You’re far to self-absorbed for my liking!


47 posted on 10/13/2013 4:24:15 PM PDT by trussell (I carry because...When seconds count between life and death, the police are only minutes away)
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To: trussell

With your fundamental lack of comprehension do you really need to go about sending strangers your correction, enlightenment, philosophy or perhaps your plain wrong headedness.

I dont welcome it.


48 posted on 10/13/2013 4:39:26 PM PDT by RBStealth (--raised by wolves, disciplined and educated by nuns.)
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To: Kartographer
And because the government’s down I can’t feed my family?

That is not the reason you cannot feed your family

...Just sayin'

49 posted on 10/13/2013 4:46:18 PM PDT by Chuckster (The longer I live the less I care about what you think.)
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To: reaganaut

Back during WWII, as a kid my brother-in-law remembered when the feds raided their west Texas ranch. it seems someone told the feds the ranchers were hoarding food.

All the home grown and canned foods they had were confiscated.
They survived that winter because they had another storage cellar hid way out in the hills.


50 posted on 10/13/2013 4:59:35 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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