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What does “loss of trust” mean in the firing of Air Force ICBM head Gen. Michael Carey?
Coach is Right ^ | 10/16/13 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 10/16/2013 9:06:20 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax

Last week the man in charge of America’s Intercontinental Ballistic Missile (ICBM) defense system was fired by Barack Obama. Of course you have heard almost nothing about this from Obama’s kept media. They have no curiosity about why General Michael Carey, a man with a sterling record of service to our nation; and as a 35 year Air Force officer would be fired with no reasons offered by this anti-military Administration.

In the middle of his golf tour and a few threatening statements to Ted Cruz, Barack Obama found time to flop General Carey from his position as commander of our most essential missile defense system.

In the absence of media scrutiny speculation is filling in the blanks. The website militarycorruption.com is covering this story and as usual it is doing an outstanding job. Thinking out allowed, MC.com wonders what the General could have done wrong; or more to the point what he...

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: barackobama; russia; treason

1 posted on 10/16/2013 9:06:20 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax
His ace in the hole if he does not get his way ?

His leverage over the people ?
2 posted on 10/16/2013 9:09:01 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: Oldpuppymax
just what the hell does, “Loss of trust” mean?

It means he said he wouldn't launch on Texas if Obama ordered it.

3 posted on 10/16/2013 9:10:17 AM PDT by grobdriver
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To: Oldpuppymax

If it’s anything like similar scandals, it means he’s been dorking one of his female suborndiates.


4 posted on 10/16/2013 9:11:04 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: Oldpuppymax
Decapitating our military, to what end?

5 posted on 10/16/2013 9:11:17 AM PDT by oldbrowser (The debt limit is the emergency brake on government spending)
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To: oldbrowser

If you really need to ask that question, you would not understand the answer.


6 posted on 10/16/2013 9:13:02 AM PDT by sport
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To: Oldpuppymax

It means Barry is making it “my military”.


7 posted on 10/16/2013 9:13:35 AM PDT by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: oldbrowser
Decapitating our military, to what end?

To remove the old guard leaders who will refuse to slaughter American citizens.

8 posted on 10/16/2013 9:14:20 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: oldbrowser
Decapitating our military, to what end?

To provide a full pool of former flag officers with no love for Obama & Co, for "when the time comes". Also gives an object lesson to all current military as to what this petty tyrant is trying to accomplish.

9 posted on 10/16/2013 9:14:50 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("Life is short. It's even shorter if you suggest going out for pizza on your anniversary" Peter Egan)
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To: Oldpuppymax
What does “loss of trust” mean in the firing of Air Force ICBM head Gen. Michael Carey?

Well, I've NEVER trusted Baraq Hussein mohammed 0bama, so when is he getting sh*tcanned?

10 posted on 10/16/2013 9:16:30 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: Oldpuppymax

It means he is deemed “unreliable” by the current regime, that he cannot be trusted to obey the Leader, rather than something like the Constitution.


11 posted on 10/16/2013 9:17:58 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: DesScorp
this is just a coup, a way to get rid of any independent thinking people in leadership positions, and to reward favored people....

oh, if they had to, they could make any charge they wanted...porn on their computers, infidelity, using dirty words.....

12 posted on 10/16/2013 9:19:31 AM PDT by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: BwanaNdege

The Armed Forces are ALREADY pissed off at the Death Gratuity kiss-off . .


13 posted on 10/16/2013 9:20:32 AM PDT by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: grobdriver

Remember a short while ago when Soetoro was going to unilaterally go to war against Syria, with the full endorsement of John McCain & his hand-puppet Lindsey Graham? Graham spectacularly declared that if America doesn’t intervene in Syria militarily that South Carolina could end up getting NUKED! Then we read about a secret transfer of nuclear weapons from a base in Texas to a base in South Carolina with no one stating who gave the order. I think that Gen.Carey must have objected — So Yes, our PINO would have lost some trust that his orders wouldn’t be implemented without question. Coup d’Etat before our eyes. No one is stopping these tyrrants in power. Is Gen. Carey’s pension more important than the survival of the country? Will there be pensions for anyone if Soetoro keeps going the way he is going??? Please someone: Blow the Whistle on the Fraud so that no one in America can ignore it any more.


14 posted on 10/16/2013 9:21:14 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Oldpuppymax

Meanwhile, in Congress: “zzzzzzzzzzz....”


15 posted on 10/16/2013 9:26:43 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: DesScorp

Over the years there have been many Air Division and other levels of commanders relieved of their duties for indescretions that other than congressmen or senators could not get away with. It happened during Reagan, the Bushes, and Clinton.

It means that his common sense and his ability to make the right decisions is in question. I saw lieutenants, captains, majors and colonels relieved of their nuclear weapon command and control duties and their clearances pulled for exactly the same types of actions or scandals. This is a matter of nuclear control and safety and nobody at any level should be left in this type of position of responsibility if they are not completely reliable in all matters, personal and public and that includes dorking female subordinates. Lack of good judgement.


16 posted on 10/16/2013 9:37:36 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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On Sept. 3 a whistle-blower said nukes stored at Dyess AFB, TX were being transported SC. I believe this story is still being buried by the collaborator media but I don’t have a tv so maybe MSNBC has been all over it from the get-go? :) Sept. 3 Lindsey Graham said Charleston Harbor could be nuked if Syria wasn’t attacked. Hmmmm.

The second in command of the nuke arsenal was demoted because he allegedly used counterfeit casino chips and then the number one guy “loses the trust” of BOzo. Hmmmm.

If there’s ever some incident involving a nuke and the response is to declare martial law and enact NDRP, the main suspects will be traitorous, treasonous, criminal elements within the gov’t. I’m sure the boogeyman will be muslim terrorists or even right-wing patriot “terrorists”.


17 posted on 10/16/2013 9:39:09 AM PDT by Hayride
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To: Oldpuppymax

“Who do you like in the Preakness?”


18 posted on 10/16/2013 9:48:11 AM PDT by Argus
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To: Argus

http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/massive_port_grab.html


19 posted on 10/16/2013 9:50:33 AM PDT by Therapsid (t)
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To: Oldpuppymax

It means he can’t be trusted to do as Der Fuhrer says when it comes to subjugating and sacrificing American citizens.


20 posted on 10/16/2013 9:52:40 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: Therapsid

THE FOREIGNER is doing nothing but PURGING THE MILITARY to be replaced by his FAITHFUL DRONES. This is de-couping the military like any BANANA REPUBLIC does when new leaders take COMPLETE POWER. How long is the republican leadership going to sit on their hands with their eyes wide shut.


21 posted on 10/16/2013 9:55:01 AM PDT by spawn44 (moo)
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To: Oldpuppymax

It is a means of removing a senior Officer without going through a lot of administrative steps. They aren’t “fired” in the sense that someone is fired in the private sector. They are removed from a particular job. They aren’t kicked out of the military......yet.
If the military started firing admirals and generals, well, people might realize that they really aren’t perfect.


22 posted on 10/16/2013 9:55:39 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Hayride

“On Sept. 3 a whistle-blower said nukes stored at Dyess AFB, TX were being transported SC.”

Dyess is home to B-1s. B-1s would be armed with strategic air launched nuclear weapons in most instances if nuclear orders were given. They might have some tactical nukes there but I’d assume more likely strategic. The only bases in S.C. are Shaw AFB which is an F-16 base and JB Charleston which flies C-17s. F-16s do not fly with strategic nukes. I simply can’t see the reason to transfer what are likely strategic nukes to a base that cannot use them.


23 posted on 10/16/2013 10:01:17 AM PDT by FAA
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To: Oldpuppymax

According to Air Force Magazine on line:
“Air Force Global Strike Command chief Lt. Gen. James Kowalski announced that he had relieved Carey of duty “due to a loss of trust and confidence in his leadership and judgment.” This action came after allegations against Carey of “personal misbehavior” during a temporary duty assignment. Information Kowalski received from personnel who traveled with Carey prompted Kowalski this summer to engage the Air Force’s inspector general to look into the matter, said Stefanek.”

Looks like he was a bad boy on TDY, and was reported by his travel mates.


24 posted on 10/16/2013 10:09:24 AM PDT by Bruce Kurtz
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To: Oldpuppymax

Complete loss of trust in BHO. Time to start a public demand for the dictator to abdicate.


25 posted on 10/16/2013 10:44:05 AM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: Oldpuppymax

Generals and Admirals get sacked all the time. Not in large numbers, but there are always those who have zipper problems or problems with the bottle (probably the cause in this case), or some other incident. Usually, the root cause is that they let their ego get out of control. As overachievers all of their lives, they begin to think that they are bullet proof and start abusing their privileges and authority. I’ve see it happen a number of times with friends, colleagues, and former bosses. Obama didn’t even know who this guy is.

In my opinion, we don’t sack enough of them. The real scandal is that too much gets swept under the rug and someone’s fair haired boy gets protected. If you screw up at that level, you need to be gone. That’s how you keep the military from becoming the cess pool that is the rest of government.


26 posted on 10/16/2013 11:00:39 AM PDT by centurion316
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To: Oldpuppymax

Maybe he is another one who refuses to fire on American citizens? (especially with nukes)

The Military has been infiltrated at the highest levels with libtards


27 posted on 10/16/2013 11:02:21 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: centurion316

Good luck with all that now that the Homos are in. They will now all protect and promote each other.


28 posted on 10/16/2013 11:03:45 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: grobdriver

DING DING DING!

All of this military purging is about one thing -
removing any leadership that will refuse to do unconscionable things.


29 posted on 10/16/2013 11:03:47 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: DesScorp

Are you thinking clearly about this?

Think...

who is in charge?

If this was a scandal that would get rid of him like sex or stealing or something the media would be having a field day - it would be 24/7 coverage.

But this was for ‘loss of trust’- and the media has no curiosity about it?
-NONE-!!!

For a career man with 35 years stellar service?

Could it be because could be because General Carey has expressed an unwillingness to participate in a future Obama order to institute martial law?


30 posted on 10/16/2013 11:08:04 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Mr. K

You guys are all going “Coup!”, when the answer is much more simple and obvious: this is what happens when you have women in front line service. We’ve seen it time and again. Look at all the pregnancies at sea. Look at all of the ship captains, squadron commanders, and soldiers that have been relieved of duty. This is the inevitable result of putting women with men in tight quarters and in military bases.


31 posted on 10/16/2013 11:33:56 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: FAA

I have no personal knowledge about different kinds of nukes and I don’t know if this is a fact but I believe I heard that the company line was there wasn’t supposed to be nukes at Dyess.

The curious thing to me was the timing of everything. The whistle-blower provided the info BEFORE Lindsey Graham made his statement Charleston Harbor being a target for a nuke attack if Syria wasn’t attacked. That’s curious. Then the #1 and #2 guys over the nukes get removed from their positions.

The MSM hasn’t covered a possible transfer of nukes under odd circumstances but it has covered the odd circumstances under which the #1 and #2 guys got turfed. The shady goings on surrounding the Minot AFB nukes got coverage in ‘07 but this is buried. It just doesn’t smell right to me.


32 posted on 10/16/2013 1:06:33 PM PDT by Hayride
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To: DesScorp

you make a valid point but there is something wrong here

this is a case of “the dog that didn’t bark”

The media is NOT all over this... why? They usually love to take down a General Officer.

They are not barking because they recognize their master, Obama, at work.


33 posted on 10/16/2013 6:17:24 PM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Salgak

True, true.


34 posted on 10/17/2013 6:22:25 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("Life is short. It's even shorter if you suggest going out for pizza on your anniversary" Peter Egan)
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