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Japanís sexual apathy is endangering the global economy
Washington Post ^ | 10/22/2013 | Max Fisher

Posted on 10/22/2013 6:17:42 PM PDT by TexGrill

Edited on 10/22/2013 6:19:54 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

People in Japan are so averse to romantic relationships that the country's media even has a name for it: sekkusu shinai shokogun, or "celibacy syndrome," according to a widely circulated Guardian story on the country's low rates of marriage, childbearing and even sex.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Humor; Society
KEYWORDS: asia; birthrate; japan; japaneconomy
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1 posted on 10/22/2013 6:17:42 PM PDT by TexGrill
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To: TexGrill

I thought they were big on amime sex and kiddie porn :-(


2 posted on 10/22/2013 6:24:18 PM PDT by informavoracious (Of course I want people to have healthcare, I just didn't know I was the one who would be paying...)
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To: TexGrill
"celibacy syndrome,"

Does Japan have some bad divorce laws?

3 posted on 10/22/2013 6:24:20 PM PDT by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: TexGrill

More like they don’t have kids.

They have a lot of fuzoku.


4 posted on 10/22/2013 6:25:09 PM PDT by struggle
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To: TexGrill

I can tell you, Asian women tend to loose their desire early-on in life...


5 posted on 10/22/2013 6:25:10 PM PDT by ransacked
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To: informavoracious

Not enough teeny girls dressed in Catholic school uniforms?


6 posted on 10/22/2013 6:26:05 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: TexGrill

Japan, unfortunately, went so far into technology that they neglected the trades and other occupations.

Consequently, becoming a carpenter or electrician is basically considered having failed your family. So, many people who are not cut out for tech or business won’t consider anything else and aren’t really equipped to earn an income that would support a family, so many of the males have chosen to withdraw from society and the women aren’t prepared to date unviable men.


7 posted on 10/22/2013 6:27:45 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: TexGrill

Maybe they should try normal sex.


8 posted on 10/22/2013 6:28:08 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Mark17

I believe that the Japanese really don’t believe in divorce. At least according to my sister-in-law who married a guy from Japan


9 posted on 10/22/2013 6:30:55 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: TexGrill

a country with legal kiddie porn and 12 year old prostitutes and “bath house” workers is suffering from “sexual apathy”??

Maybe they can sell more Hello Kitty sex toys?

Maybe those pillows with genitals should be mandatory for the chilrun....

what a messed up country


10 posted on 10/22/2013 6:34:41 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: TexGrill
The world will crash because the Japanese don't boink each other enough?
Is this the new Glowbull Warming?
11 posted on 10/22/2013 6:42:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: informavoracious
I thought they were big on amime sex and kiddie porn :-(

Apparently that's the problem. When they're into sex at all, it's largely perversion, not normal marital procreative sex.

And we're getting there...

12 posted on 10/22/2013 6:47:23 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("See something, say something.")
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To: TexGrill
This article has some interesting views on the matter... Did antidepressants depress Japan
13 posted on 10/22/2013 6:51:51 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: TexGrill
I worked with an Japanese-American woman for years.
She told me about what this article FAILS to mention, that is, in the Japanese culture it is 100% acceptable for husbands to beat wives. Wives are conditioned to and expected to TAKE IT without complaint or any form of retaliation.

Men are under INTENSE pressure to succeed at work. Usually, they start at the bottom and take enormous amount of flack from bosses, are pressured to work WAY more than standard 40 hours per week, pressured to go to the bars to consummate the business deals and pressured to be company trolls.
With this pressure many men take out their enormously built-up pressure on their wives. It's a no-win for everyone, as sons and daughters see dad beatin' the holy crap out of the Mrs. and see her TAKE IT. Not the best predictor for interest in the married life.
Go ahead and check it out. That is the norm for married Japanese women.

Naturally, there was an exception. The wives of shoguns and warriors were NOT beaten, for some reason. My friend didn't know why, but that is an anomaly in their husband-beat-wife-relationship.

I can readily understand why there is little romance. I can readily understand the dearth of children.

I also worked in a Karaoke bar for a few months, JUST as a waitress...and I had to learn to SING in Japanese. What a hoot! Senaka awase no blue.... Lol.

The Japanese men, I hear, like little girls too. That's NOT an anomaly but a pretty standard preference of Japanese men...prepubescent girls.

For Japanese-American men and women--all bets are off. They are brought up as AMERICANS.

14 posted on 10/22/2013 6:52:16 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: GeronL
Cut the Nips some slack. Ain't easy getting involved in the dating and romance thing when that over grown lizard with the halitosis from Hell gets the mad on and starts running amok.
15 posted on 10/22/2013 6:56:08 PM PDT by jmacusa (I don't think so, but I doubt it.)
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To: TexGrill

Having been there I assure you that there’s lots of sex in japan.


16 posted on 10/22/2013 6:58:49 PM PDT by Smedley (It's a sad day for American capitalism when a man can't fly a midget on a kite over Central Park)
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To: jmacusa

and typhoon-level moths


17 posted on 10/22/2013 6:58:56 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: struggle
Fuzoku is prostitution. In Germany prostitution is also legal.

I was in Germany when I heard this. Before I could keep my BIG FAT MOUTH SHUT I blurted out: "Oh how nice! What a lovely thing to allow your daughters to do. What a charming life. Who wouldn't want his/her daughter, mother, sister or niece to be a hooker?
Imagine, there she is, your baby girl, lying on her back, buck naked, with her legs open, with a total stranger who can do whatever he wants with her. Charming! Lovely!"
I finished the tirade by saying that I DIDN'T wonder why so many hookers were drunks, drug addicts or both. Oh well.

It ain't pretty for male prostitutes either.

18 posted on 10/22/2013 7:00:36 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: GeronL

you haven’t been to San francesspool, have you?

japan is a VAST improvement


19 posted on 10/22/2013 7:02:26 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: jmacusa
Cut the Nips some slack. Ain't easy getting involved in the dating and romance thing when that over grown lizard with the halitosis from Hell gets the mad on and starts running amok.

In Japan a husband is allowed to beat the holy crap out of his lizard-wife. THEN, he can mosey on down to the local house of prostitution and hook up with a 10 year girl for his, um, jollies. All in a day's work.

Wouldn't YOU just L-O-V-E to see your daughter married to one of those charmers?

20 posted on 10/22/2013 7:03:46 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: GeronL
and typhoon-level moths

Huh?

21 posted on 10/22/2013 7:04:40 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

Wives of shoguns and warriors (women in the samurai class) were always armed (with a dagger), and were trained from childhood to defend themselves, both with the dagger and with the naginata, which was a sword mounted on a pole. So you did not mess around with them.


22 posted on 10/22/2013 7:05:14 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: TexGrill

23 posted on 10/22/2013 7:07:21 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: GeronL

Yeah, right? Man, you would need to have the biggest can of Raid for that thing.


24 posted on 10/22/2013 7:10:55 PM PDT by jmacusa (I don't think so, but I doubt it.)
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To: Jonty30
Japan, unfortunately, went so far into technology that they neglected the trades and other occupations.
Consequently, becoming a carpenter or electrician is basically considered having failed your family. So, many people who are not cut out for tech or business won’t consider anything else and aren’t really equipped to earn an income that would support a family, so many of the males have chosen to withdraw from society and the women aren’t prepared to date unviable men.

Haven't the Japanese learned that a plumber is PROBABLY one of the most IMPORTANT men in the world?!

Gee, I wonder WHY women have snapped up all those jobs from the men? Why aren't there 50% women plumbers, carpenters, ditch diggers, gardeners, mechanics (car or motorcycle), fire fighters, cops-on-the-beat, horse-patrol-cops, petroleum workers/rough necks, miners, RedAdair-type-fire fighters (putting out fires in oil wells), highway patrol officers on motorcycles, etc.?

My gender, female that is, seems to want jobs that are SAFE, CLEAN and CLOSE TO HOME. Hmmmm, am I exaggerating? I don't think so.

25 posted on 10/22/2013 7:11:14 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: TexGrill

Mark Steyn substituted for Rush on Monday, this was one of the topics.

My view: the Japanese are not procreating, and don’t like immigrants either (because that would dilute the purity of the Japanese race). They will therefore see the collapse of their society even sooner than Russia and Europe (that will collapse because of who they allow in — Muslims, or because of low birth rates from abortion).


26 posted on 10/22/2013 7:11:14 PM PDT by zipper ("The Second Amendment IS my carry permit!" -- Ted Nugent)
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To: TexGrill

Probably the radiation.


27 posted on 10/22/2013 7:12:36 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: kaehurowing
Wives of shoguns and warriors (women in the samurai class) were always armed (with a dagger), and were trained from childhood to defend themselves, both with the dagger and with the naginata, which was a sword mounted on a pole. So you did not mess around with them.

Understood, but HUSBAND still had the right to beat the holy crap out of them. So, though warrior/shogun husbands COULD have beaten up wives, since it was/is so much of the culture, they DIDN'T. Are you telling me that wives would fight back? I don't think they would...and they wouldn't stand much of a chance again their husband.

Side note: MY husband always told me that there is NO defense for some pissed off person to sneak up on someone they hated and BASH the guy in the head with a two-by-four...with nails :o).

28 posted on 10/22/2013 7:15:27 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: zipper

My Japanese-American co-worker said that in Japan, if a child comes to school that first day and had FRECKLES or CURLY hair, there had to be “proof of purity” of race. I wonder if that is still true.


29 posted on 10/22/2013 7:17:06 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

Yeah, fuzoku is one of those really weird and difficult to understand things about Japan.

When my wife and I started dating (she’s Japanese) the first thing she lightly asked me was if I had ever went to fuzoku. I said, “No, I don’t have to pay for it,” as a joke and she laughed and then stoically responded, “Good, because if you had I’d never see you again.” I did know a Canadian fellow in Osaka that was quite an addict of fuzoku and eventually contracted several diseases.

The real problem with fuzoku is that many Japanese men DON’T see it as cheating EVEN IF THEY’RE MARRIED. It’s partially because prostitution was legal before WWII, but also because the yakuza runs it and pays the government and police for the privilege.


30 posted on 10/22/2013 7:18:04 PM PDT by struggle
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To: GeronL
a country with legal kiddie porn and 12 year old prostitutes and “bath house” workers is suffering from “sexual apathy”??
Maybe they can sell more Hello Kitty sex toys?
Maybe those pillows with genitals should be mandatory for the chilrun....
what a messed up country

So, some mother and father ALLOWED their 12-year-old daughter to get into prostitution and/or pornography. How nice. (Sarcasm.)

31 posted on 10/22/2013 7:19:08 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

screw japan


32 posted on 10/22/2013 7:22:30 PM PDT by Moleman
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To: ransacked

Yikes! Thank God I married a Polish Girl.


33 posted on 10/22/2013 7:23:05 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: cloudmountain

>>I worked with an Japanese-American woman for years.
She told me about what this article FAILS to mention, that is, in the Japanese culture it is 100% acceptable for husbands to beat wives. Wives are conditioned to and expected to TAKE IT without complaint or any form of retaliation.

Not true. Women are seen as subservient in many ways (in the office place and the home) and this is common in Asian society, but in my years living there and extensive knowledge of the culture this simply is untrue (and the fact that people in Japan are routinely arrested for it).

The lack of children exists mainly in the city. In the country they’re having children like crazy and homes with 4-7 kids aren’t rare.

Japanese pedophilia is disgusting, and the government is JUST NOW beginning to arrest people for creating drawn depictions of it.


34 posted on 10/22/2013 7:24:31 PM PDT by struggle
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To: TexGrill

With today’s Millenials, the US could end up like Japan very soon.


35 posted on 10/22/2013 7:25:54 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: cloudmountain

They are totally desensitized. Many parents are taking naughty pics of their own kids for the legal underage magazines, panties and such.


36 posted on 10/22/2013 7:30:56 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: jmacusa

it screamed “RAID??!!!” loud enough to topple buildings in Kobe


37 posted on 10/22/2013 7:33:08 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: cloudmountain

Mothra


38 posted on 10/22/2013 7:33:25 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: sten
you haven’t been to San francesspool, have you? japan is a VAST improvement

What? No one ran up to you and put flowers in your hair?
Lol. San Francisco has one of the LEAST amounts of native San Franciscans living in their own city. The City by the Bay is populated by Other Americans, so if there is cesspool, it's imported from the other 49.

It DOES have the highest number of banks in the state, maybe the rest of the country. The banks bring jobs. People flock to a city where there are JOBS.

Housing is expensive, but it's VERY expensive ALL OVER the Bay Area. It doesn't get cheaper until you hit the deserts or the "pucker-brush" towns. That would be in the central valley, full of crops, crop dusters, crop dusting pollution, bugs that eat crops and lots of fresh fruit and veggies. MMMmmm.

But, I admit, I haven't been to Japan. It was too expensive. I went to China. I traveled over much of the world, lived in the middle east for five years...and when we came home for good (gone 5 years) I KISSED the ground of this blessed country. San Francisco has almost every place beat....AND it has a Japan town where I can eat ALL the delicious Japanese food I want. I don't even have to bring a samurai sword with me.

BTW, since the lefties have managed to convince much of the insane world that homosexuality is okey-dokey, the gays have MOVED OUT of the City by the Bay and have gone all over the state and country, where they are accepted as normal.

YUCKyuckYUCKyuck!!! NOTNOTNOTNOT normal!!

39 posted on 10/22/2013 7:34:06 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Mrs. Don-o

It’s the world’s normal cycle - repent and obey God, receive the blessing, take the blessings for granted, mock God (via perversions of all sorts, but mainly by setting yourself up as your own god), and then reap the whirlwind... then the whole thing begins again. Eventually, though, it’ll be the last time.


40 posted on 10/22/2013 7:34:16 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: sten

No, any place where kiddie porn is LEGAL and society makes kids think prostitution is just another fine way to earn “pocket money”, is not much improvement. I think a nuke would be a vast improvement for both cities.


41 posted on 10/22/2013 7:34:44 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL
Mothra

Ah! Yes, how COULD I forget? I stand corrected.

42 posted on 10/22/2013 7:34:55 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: zipper

Japan will last longer than all of us, exactly because they are focused on what makes them and their country “Japanese.” its their culture, their history, and their language. Yes, they do take interesting or useful things from the outside world, but use them in their own way.

They have no interest in immigrants from Africa, Yemen, Burma or where ever. Japanese understand those people will not fit into Japan society anyway - and would only work at unskilled, relatively unproductive jobs, and become a permanent underclass anyway - so what’s the point?

Not every country is the USA, and not everyone shares of present day “religion” of low-cost labor, the economic value of the individual, and so-called “diversity.” Why force it on them?

they will definitely continue to undergo a slow-moving economic revolution and population decline - but eventually, something will shock them into changing it. They will not riot in the streets though and as a people, they will always exist as is.


43 posted on 10/22/2013 7:35:40 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: TexGrill

Soy is said to diminish testosterone production.


44 posted on 10/22/2013 7:36:35 PM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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To: struggle
I find a LOT of things hard to understand. Wife beating is one of them.

HOWEVER, I gotta hand it to the Japanese. They bathe. The Japanese bath is more than just a daily shower, scrub and hop in the tub; it's a ritual. Now, to me, that's not a bad thing. It teaches the kids to be clean, to be communal in their cleanliness and not to be so ashamed or shy about their body.

45 posted on 10/22/2013 7:39:09 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: TexGrill

I don’t think this is the only significant problem causing Japan’s economic decline. After Japan’s big economic boom, two social groups started to rise: the NEETs(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NEET) and the Freeters(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeter). This was the blow back of such an intense and over demanding work environment. As a result, their economy has started to decay.

With these significant problems and almost no immigration, I don’t see how they will recover.


46 posted on 10/22/2013 7:39:59 PM PDT by NullPointerException
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To: cloudmountain
I dated a girl from Japan for a while, she was really cute, and I enjoyed our time together.
Took her to see the Thunderbirds, that was kinda cool.

She did not have anything nice to say about Japanese men.

47 posted on 10/22/2013 7:41:40 PM PDT by real saxophonist (Rock, paper, scissors, GUN. I win.)
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To: GeronL
No, any place where kiddie porn is LEGAL and society makes kids think prostitution is just another fine way to earn “pocket money”, is not much improvement. I think a nuke would be a vast improvement for both cities.

Well, the Allies tried that on two cities.
Maybe a nuke isn't necessary. Outlawing kiddie porn and prostitution, with HUGE financial penalties, might take the commerce so far underground that it would all but disappear. The Japanese men could just do what we do...eat and drink themselves into oblivion.

48 posted on 10/22/2013 7:42:17 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Moleman
screw japan

Now QUIT sugar-coatin' it and say what you REALLY mean. :o)

49 posted on 10/22/2013 7:43:26 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: real saxophonist
I dated a girl from Japan for a while, she was really cute, and I enjoyed our time together. Took her to see the Thunderbirds, that was kinda cool. She did not have anything nice to say about Japanese men

Now that is a shame. That would, I assume, even include her father, brothers and all other male relatives. Damn shame.

50 posted on 10/22/2013 7:44:48 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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