Skip to comments.Obamacare: Death Panels And Liberal Control
Posted on 10/30/2013 11:36:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
In August of 2009 Sarah Palin, in reference to the pending doom popularly known as Obamacare, called the selected group of people who will be in charge of determining the worthiness of everyones healthcare a death panel. Immediately the left went into attack mode. They called Palin a liar and defended Obamacare to the hilt. Palin cited section 1233 of HR 3200 as her reason for coming to this conclusion. The left, of course, derided her for pointing out that the obvious end game would be rationing of care by the panels who are charged with counseling people on things like end of life decisions and living wills. To be specific, page 430 of the above mentioned section clearly states;
(B) The level of treatment indicated under subparagraph (A)(ii) may range from an indication for full treatment to an indication to limit some or all or specified interventions
When you read the Affordable Care Act verbiage, you do, indeed, see the emergence of death panels, bureaucrats who will sit in an office far away from you and decide you are not worthy of the cost of treatment, or that your case is too severe, or you are too old. But hey, if youre a liberal you are taught not to let things like facts stand in the way of a good argument, especially when it comes to those nasty conservatives.
Worse still, our young people are being further indoctrinated to accept socialized medicine as the norm, as the right thing to do for the collective good, and they are becoming more and more desensitized to death. The good of the many out weights the good of the few, or the one. Already we have seen recent generations regard their elders with disdain. Parents are afraid to discipline their children for fear they wont be liked, and for fear that a child or school official will call authorities on them. Recent reports have doctors asking children if their parents own firearms and there are rumors of children being encouraged to report their parents (reminiscent of Hitler encouraging children to report parents who were critical of the Nazis) for certain behaviors, though I find no substantiation of that accusation. Still, you can see it coming.
But if liberals are so sure there will be no death panels, then why are they trying to prepare our children for just such an occasion? Case in point: a high school in St. Joseph, Illinois has a class called Social Science. Recently they gave the children an assignment that required them to determine which six of ten patients would receive critically needed medical care, with the clear understanding that the other four would die if treatment was not received. These children were to assign value to the lives of these ten people using information like age, marital status, sex, number and ages of children, occupation and ethnicity. Those who scored the highest would, presumably, receive treatment. The lowest scoring four would be out of luck.
See the article and the assignment here: http://www.championnews.net/?p=46699
See the Affordable Care Act here: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-111hr3200ih/pdf/BILLS-111hr3200ih.pdf
The Independent Payment Advisory Board, which is the official name of the more apt moniker Death Panel, is seeing more and more opposition from the left, however. Several Democrat senators and representatives have joined the call to repeal the boards powers, including the three from Arizona, Reps Ron Barber, Ann Kirkpatrick, and Krysten Sinema. Each of these face elections next year in a state that proudly touts Jan Brewer as their governor. Recent attempts by liberal legislators in Colorado to enact more restrictive gun laws saw two legislators ousted in a recall. Arizona voters have indicated their distaste for further restrictions of their liberties too, and it must have some legislators thinking. While the Supreme Court struck down Arizonas voter ID law recently, conservatives in that state are not backing down. An Arizona Republican state rep, Brenda Barton, recently referred to President Obama as De Fuhrer on her facebook page, a move that garnered a lot of criticism from Democrats in her home state, but is almost certainly indicative of the mood of her constituents. Her comment was born of her disgust for Obamas political strategy of closing national parks and monuments during the government shutdown fight. And that fight was born of the bigger fight to rid us of Obamacare, effectively making it unenforceable by defunding it.
Liberals, however, have asserted their desire to see a more fair society that is inclusive of everyone and takes care of all people. To this end, they want free education, healthcare, and in some cases, housing. It has proven futile to explain how economics works to them. While these things may end up being free to those who would take advantage of such things, they are never free. There is always a cost. The question is, who pays it? The schmucks who have a work ethic and ambition, thats who. Of course, in this increasingly fair society, someone has come to the realization that Obamacare and other socialist ideals are hurting the working man. Namely, the unions. Unions are accountable for many millions in campaign contributions and the majority of it goes to Democrats. Unions supported Obamacare, even spending money to buy ads to promote it. In return, they were made promises, according to union leaders, including James Hoffa. The insurance plans that unions have fought to perfect over the decades are now in jeopardy, contrary to what unions were told would happen. Oddly, the unions promote Obamacare for everyone else but are livid at the notion that they may be included. Now they want their own waiver.
The idea of some panel of bureaucrats in Washington deciding whether or not my mother should receive care based on their idea of her worth sickens me. The fact that fairness, to a liberal, is defined by what they want for everyone else, and not what might actually be fair (not that life is fair), reminds me of tyranny at its worst. Keep an eye on things close to home. Check your kids homework. Some of us must work to stop the progression of socialism in this nation. We must be ever diligent.
The only way to get to cheaper (believed) health care....is rationed care. It’s a momentary thing though. Once you hint of any rationed service or surgery...you turn the case over to a local lawyer. He sues the death panel in court...judge issues an order to perform the service, and you get “damages payment” (probably $300,000). Your lawyer gets rich and you get the service.
All of this hint of death panels....simply revolves around a short term fix. It’s only take three years to bankrupt the medical system entirely with this type of “fix”.
In the end....this legal sue-to-your-hearts-desire is the counter to any death panel. Lawyers are sitting there and grinning over the approach, and the anticipated billions that they will make during this short time-period. Once the government gets into management of your life....they end up with a failure. It’s the simple truth.
Medicare and TFL are both very rationed even down to the number of Physio visits you are allowed or what kind of medicine it you will get. GENERICS all. If you want or in my case need a brand name you need special permission. It is only 1 stupid $23 drug, and the generic is about $7 cheaper. Since I am allergic to it, I stick to the name brand and pay nearly full price for it. Ins pays about $6.
If I am not mistaken, the "death panels" (some acronym like IPAB, I believe) are specifically removed from legal recourse by the PP&ACA.
Moreover, their decisions cannot be questioned by Congress -- nor can they be dissolved by Congress after a specific date.
It's one of those things we found in the bill after it was passed...
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