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MI: Open Carry Lawsuit; Police Report or Dashcam Video?
Gun Watch ^ | 25 December, 2013 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 12/24/2013 3:15:01 PM PST by marktwain

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1 posted on 12/24/2013 3:15:01 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Police lie? Say it ain't so. /s

/johnny

2 posted on 12/24/2013 3:16:38 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
Police using a common human habit to insinuate that someone may be mentally ill as an excuse to gain control of them.

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3 posted on 12/24/2013 3:18:21 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: marktwain
I was wondering where my brilliant response went..

Here it is again (still as brilliant):


4 posted on 12/24/2013 3:19:23 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: marktwain

“Deffert may have mental issues and was about to commit a violent crime.”

Wow = Police can actually read people`s minds!

I thought fortune telling required a license.
These cops are watching too much tv “THE MENTALIST..>”


5 posted on 12/24/2013 3:22:33 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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“Deffert was alone, and was loudly talking to himself,”

Larry, Moe and Curly wrote.

6 posted on 12/24/2013 3:27:59 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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I think some anti-rights types have claimed that merely wishing to carry a gun is a sign of mental illness.


7 posted on 12/24/2013 3:28:52 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain

Some cops think that not being a cop is a sign of mental illness.


8 posted on 12/24/2013 3:38:24 PM PST by donmeaker (A man can go anywhere on earth, and where man can go, he can drag a cannon.)
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To: bunkerhill7

I spend a lot of time by myself since I retired..

I do talk to myself a lot since retirement.

Frankly, I fail to see what is wrong with that.

Now I will admit that if the comments are totally off the wall or if the person is in a public place ranting something incoherent....

But this fellow was driving his car. Most of us consider our car to be a private place. Even the law considers your car a private place, otherwise there would be no need for a warrant to search it.

Stub your toe, drop your keys, suddenly remember that you forgot your wife’s birthday...cuss yourself for being stupid..

So what?

All part of being a human.

The cop is an ass.


9 posted on 12/24/2013 3:46:20 PM PST by old curmudgeon
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EVERY police report I’ve seen (in connection with myself, family or friends) has had LIES in the report - things which were total fabrications.

I believe ... now ... that no one can depend on the veracity or accuracy of police reports. And I say that from direct experience.


10 posted on 12/24/2013 3:50:43 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: marktwain

“Who are you going to believe?,” asked the officer, “Me, or your own lying eyes?”


11 posted on 12/24/2013 4:14:08 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Last Obamacare Promise: "If You Like Your Eternal Soul, You Can Keep It.")
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To: marktwain; Alaska Wolf

Psychic cop ping


12 posted on 12/24/2013 4:38:15 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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Going price in Virginia for an open carry false arrest is about $10k. Seems to have cured the problem for most LEOs.


13 posted on 12/24/2013 4:40:24 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Getting some small say in who will get to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

In a case in my area the cops broke into an apartment in the middle of the night, and terrorized a family. They pointed guns at everyone including kids, and held them in cuffs for hours. They found nothing. They later claimed the warrant had listed their apartment (#2), when it should have been #3 and submitted a copy of the warrant showing #2 to the court. Meanwhile, the family’s attorney produced a copy given to him the day after that clearly states apt. #3. The occupants of #3 are long gone of course.


14 posted on 12/24/2013 4:46:26 PM PST by Hugin
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So, of course, hizzonor threw the book at the miscreants who falsified evidence, right? right???


15 posted on 12/24/2013 4:51:07 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Star Traveler
EVERY police report I’ve seen (in connection with myself, family or friends) has had LIES in the report - things which were total fabrications.

I was there when my buddy made a statement to the police, watched him taking notes. Later on the "report" had things in it that were not said, and lacked important details that were said. As the DA was preparing a case I was contacted by buddy's atty, made a statement to her about what I had witnessed being said, not said. Couple of weeks later lo and behold, DA drops everything before going to trial. Things that make you go hmmm.

16 posted on 12/24/2013 4:53:39 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: null and void

I hope so. The family’s lawsuit is still pending.


17 posted on 12/24/2013 4:58:02 PM PST by Hugin
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To: old curmudgeon

A warrant is not needed to search a vehicle...and its not private. One can be intoxicated in public in a vehicle...


18 posted on 12/24/2013 5:19:46 PM PST by bike800
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To: marktwain

“I think some anti-rights types have claimed that merely wishing to carry a gun is a sign of mental illness.”

Most cops think anyone who supports the Constitution of the
United States has a mental illness.


19 posted on 12/24/2013 5:22:03 PM PST by Slambat
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I was a LEO for 35yrs, never ever had the problems like we see today. It’s not just Mich. but the whole world seems to have gone crazy.


20 posted on 12/24/2013 5:46:07 PM PST by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
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