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Vanity: Need advice for best state
05 Jan 2014 | self

Posted on 01/05/2014 6:21:07 PM PST by Utilizer

Due to health considerations, I have been unable to travel for some time. However, doctors have now given tentative approval for limited travel for a few days. This may be the last chance I have to do so before declining health no longer allows that, so I am thinking of visiting with BIL's family in Vermont, with perhaps one or two short stops to visit other family members on the way back. I am looking for recommendations for the following needs:

1. A State where the Driver's Licence requirements are not unduly onerous since I have only a limited time and can not travel very far. By the time I travel in the spring (April or thereabouts) the licence I had in the past will have expired. California has tightened up its requirements (unless you are an Illegal, apparantly) and is now demanding a Birth Certificate and one more form of ID such as a valid SSN and proof of residence. My BC was recorded on paper records which no longer exist, so now Cali wants a Passport at least. Which brings up more problems such as around 400 dollars US for the fees and a several months long wait for processing. A State which will accept the old DL info by checking the Licence database for Cali (which the LEOs all use routinely when they run a check) with minimal processing time would be ideal.

2. A State where the firearms purchasing requirements are also fairly easy (see above limitations) and registration is not ridiculous. I am beyond tired of attempting to purchase a firearm and having dealers flat out refuse when they find out I am from California. Plus, the new laws demanding the registration of all long-arms including all rifles and shotguns are outrageous, on top of which the mandatory ten-day 'wait' period before you can pick up your purchase is asinine.

3. Longer term; which State has the least Property Taxes should I find it necessary to permanently relocate? The southern and border states are out, unfortunately, since this medical condition is sensitive to high temps with the accompanying high humidity. Power goes out and the AC is off for long, I will wind up in the ER again which is never a fun prospect.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Local News; Travel
KEYWORDS: guncontrol; license; registration; taxes
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1 posted on 01/05/2014 6:21:07 PM PST by Utilizer
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To: Utilizer

The Dakotas or Montana.


2 posted on 01/05/2014 6:22:32 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Utilizer

Iowa.


3 posted on 01/05/2014 6:23:19 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: Utilizer

Rural Idaho, most places will take your old California license and hand you a new Idaho license, the weather while cold in the winter is relatively mild during the summer, housing prices are still reasonable (except in border regions with Washington.)

Only problem is that medical care can be rather scattered and at rather high distances. If you are in an urban area of Idaho, things get a lot more weird.


4 posted on 01/05/2014 6:26:56 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Utilizer
From your profile it states you are from Northern California, I am assuming that is still the case.

We moved in June from Solano County to Arizona (Scottsdale), which meets all three of the stated criteria.

If you fear the hot summers of Phoenix consider: Prescott, Flagstaff and other areas all of which are 10-15 degrees cooler than Phoenix.

5 posted on 01/05/2014 6:27:36 PM PST by Michael.SF. (I never thought anyone could make Jimmy Carter look good in comparison.)
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To: kingu

Come to Alabama


6 posted on 01/05/2014 6:27:57 PM PST by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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To: Utilizer

Vermont wins two out of three.

But their taxes can suck.


7 posted on 01/05/2014 6:28:45 PM PST by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: Utilizer

A good beer puts you in a pretty good state.


8 posted on 01/05/2014 6:31:53 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Utilizer

Except for the fact that you have to have a permit to carry concealed, Georgia is one of the best.

They have to give you the permit and it is inexpensive. The carry rules are also generous.


9 posted on 01/05/2014 6:33:34 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: yarddog

I forgot to add that you do not have to have a reason and you do not have to take any test etc.

I could happily live with Georgia’s rules even tho I think constitutional carry is what it should be.


10 posted on 01/05/2014 6:36:11 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

McCall, Idaho.

Midway, Utah.

Cold enough most time.

My bugout choices because I love the cold and my body performs quite well in cold.

Gun friendly

Maybe a Mormon can help with your BC.

Where were you born?


11 posted on 01/05/2014 6:37:08 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Michael.SF.
If you fear the hot summers of Phoenix...

Mild correction: it is not a fear, unfortunately. I take medications for seizures on a twice daily basis, and one of the triggers appears to be a heat sensitivity. Happened last year in early June and I wound up in the ER after a massive one where I had bitten through My tongue.

Not an experience I wish to undergo again, and not the first time it had happened, unfortunately.

And yes I am still in NorCal. Thank you for the suggestion. I actually have a sibling in Arizona that I was thinking of stopping by to visit on the way back, so I just might email and see what they think.

12 posted on 01/05/2014 6:37:39 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Utilizer
If you want to be nearer to your relatives in Vermont without getting stuck in the crazy ultraleft culture of New England, you could do a lot worse than SW Pennsylvania.

Pittsburgh is the only blight on an otherwise very American part of America and that is alleviated somewhat by the fact that the city of steel is now the city of colleges and hospitals with some of the top rated medical care in the country.

Driver's licenses here are fairly easy to obtain with a license from another state and some proof of address (such as a utility bill in your name). We have the second highest number of gun owners in America (to Texas) and summers which, while humid, do not get uncomfortably hot for more than a few days at a time.

My property tax on a $140K or so market value home is about $2200 annually, so not bad. Housing here is some of the most affordable in the country and a remarkably stable market.

The annual double digits up and down of a Florida or California are, even in the worst of times, mid single digits. The lower single digits are more common.

Another advantage for retirees is that we do not tax retirement income. Even though we are one of the poorer states in which to establish a business (thanks to a gaggle of idiot voters clustered around cities like Philadelpia, Scranton and Pittsburgh), we consistently rank in the top 10 of best places to retire. And, if you want to totally insulate yourself from the idiots in the aforementioned cities, you can find many of the same advantages in or near West Virginia border towns such as Wheeling and Morgantown.

13 posted on 01/05/2014 6:38:44 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Utilizer

You damned sure don’t want to come to the state of Connecticut. this is a land of high Taxes,Poverty and corruption.

We also have a lot of politicians who support amnesty for illegal aliens at the expense of there own fellow citizens.


14 posted on 01/05/2014 6:39:05 PM PST by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The Dakotas or Montana.

What are their requirements considering the things I need to get done in the limited timeframe I mentioned?

15 posted on 01/05/2014 6:42:11 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Actually, I had not considered Iowa. How difficult is it to get a DL there and what is the wait period?


16 posted on 01/05/2014 6:43:33 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Vigilanteman

Florida, especially the panhandle has a lot going for it. No state income tax, no sales tax on groceries or medicine.

Concealed carry permit not that hard to get and the weather is nice. Summers are no warmer than any other normal state and despite what you hear, humidity is not bad either. It gets cold in the Winter but I like the change of seasons.

Also Florida’s First Congressional District has been called the most conservative in the nation.


17 posted on 01/05/2014 6:44:26 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: Utilizer

You must document your date of birth, identity and lawful status or presence. Select ONE document you will use. If possible, select a document that has your current full legal name to avoid documenting any name change.

Valid, unexpired U.S. passport or U.S. passport card

Certified copy of a birth certificate issued by a state of the United States. (”State” includes the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa, or the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands.) It must be a certified copy and have the stamp or raised seal of the issuing authority. A hospital-issued certificate is not acceptable. A certified birth certificate issued by Puerto Rico must be certified as being issued on or after July 1, 2010.

Consular Report of Birth Abroad issued by the U.S. Department of State (Form FS-240, DS-1350 or FS-545)

Certificate of Naturalization (Form N-550, N-570 or N-578)

Certificate of Citizenship (Form N-560, N-561 or N-645)

Unexpired Permanent Resident Card (Form I-551)

Unexpired Employment Authorization Document (Form I-766)

Record of Arrival and Departure (I-94) with attached photo and stamped “Temporary Proof of Lawful Permanent Resident”

Record of Arrival and Departure (I-94) stamped “Refugee,” “Parolee” or “Asylee”

Unexpired foreign passport accompanied by the approved I-94 documenting the applicant’s most recent admittance into the United States

Valid foreign passport stamped “Processed for I-551”

Permit to Reenter the United States (I-327)

Refugee Travel Document (I-571)


18 posted on 01/05/2014 6:46:14 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: Vermont Lt

So buy your guns in VT and live in NH where there is no income tax, although property taxes are high.


19 posted on 01/05/2014 6:47:22 PM PST by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: kingu
Idaho, most places will take your old California license and hand you a new Idaho license...

How much ID will they require? The DMV here took the old one when I applied for a replacement, and before they mentioned the new requirements I needed, although I have the number memorized. Now all I have is a VA picture ID card (which is a valid Federal and Military ID, though not everyone seems to understand that) and postmarked envelopes to prove the mailing address. Or do I need to establish an address there as well? Will they also demand a Passport?

20 posted on 01/05/2014 6:50:11 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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